mixing patterdale with bull

[satrat 0]

hi to all , just need a bit of advice on mixing patterdales with bull breeds, i have a good patterdale dog here in spain with me, and i want to put him over a good staffie bitch , i have good land out here and some ugly critters to deal with, and iam looking to start my own stock, as the spanish love this patterdale and want more of him, so does any one know of a smallish but tenacious staffie bitch for sale.

 

thanks

[antsa 40]

why would you want to? why not put over another good working pat or working earthdog? I think theres a bit of obsession at min about putting bull in to everything! I can understand every few generations if and thats the main word "IF" you need to.

[jamie2004live 163]

ok mate just out of interest what workwise you doing with him earthwork? and what quarry is there to hunt out there

[hedz31 1,308]

The 1st cross terrier/bull are a waste of time as an earth dog i stay well clear of bull blood in terriers

[satrat 0]

ok mate just out of interest what workwise you doing with him earthwork? and what quarry is there to hunt out there

Hi jamie , he is going well to the fox out here, theres plenty of them , and also other quarry earthwise, ever seen a patterdale chase a 100kg wild pig, not for the faint hearted if you love your dog, he cant do it on his own, some will say now why dont you get a pig dog then! dont want one of them i want more of what i got there the best

[satrat 0]

why would you want to? why not put over another good working pat or working earthdog? I think theres a bit of obsession at min about putting bull in to everything! I can understand every few generations if and thats the main word "IF" you need to.

yep, noted , looking at all options thanks

[satrat 0]

The 1st cross terrier/bull are a waste of time as an earth dog i stay well clear of bull blood in terriers

yes, i know what your saying , but i have seen a couple of patterdale/bull crosses in norfolk and they seem to do well, but its horses for courses, thanks for the reply, noted.

[jake824 517]

The 1st cross terrier/bull are a waste of time as an earth dog i stay well clear of bull blood in terriers

not all of them mate. i agree that a lot of them would be head the balls. getting wrecked and resting up for weeks and poor nose.i ve kept 2 . a half cross bitch who was a real cracker and steady with it and a three quarter patt quarter bull male.he was a good baying dog who would mix a bit but would stay all day. i never bred off either but often wondered what the off spring would be like.

[hedz31 1,308]

Its every ones own personel choice i guess at the end of the day,ive just always stayed well clear of bull blood in terriers ive seen wheelers stuff and other stuff with bull blood in them and ive never seen 1 do anything special that a straight terrier cant do.

[erik 71]

the spanish love this patterdale and want more of him,

 

 

[satrat 0]

the spanish love this patterdale and want more of him,

 

Oh well , there is always the purists i suppose eh !

[tillylamp 1,849]

hi,

does`nt the patterdale already have bull blood in it?

if yours is a good working one,why dont you find another good working one and then breed them together!!!

in all honesty for a 100kg wild bore you would need a different type of dog altogether,not a patterdale cross.

this is only my opinion!

 

tillylamp

[longdog2000 1]

hi to all , just need a bit of advice on mixing patterdales with bull breeds, i have a good patterdale dog here in spain with me, and i want to put him over a good staffie bitch , i have good land out here and some ugly critters to deal with, and iam looking to start my own stock, as the spanish love this patterdale and want more of him, so does any one know of a smallish but tenacious staffie bitch for sale.

 

thanks

 

where in Spain are you?,Im near Malaga if ya fancy a day out on hare....

[heshimus 1]

the spanish love this patterdale and want more of him,

 

Oh well , there is always the purists i suppose eh !

 

oh well, maybe one of the spanish is Lorena Guerrero, that great patterdale breeder that have been searching for male patt's to cross with her beautifull and extremely "worker" bitch.

After crossing with some schwab's blood she still is searching for more patterdale blood, when asked if the bitch worked, despite of her looks like a poomeranian dog certified by "PTCCC", she sent a photo of a rat killed!!!

 

man, one advice if you love patterdales and earthdog working don't be "amazed"...

i know some litters done in Spain, borderxsbt, jagdxebt, jagdxfoxterrier, apbtxcocker, jrtxsbt and jrtxebt in various places,etc.

big and strange dogs, to hard for working mainly killers!!!

 

i love the "purists" and i believe i'm one of them because they still want the dogs for their trully main purpose, working dogs! because of them there is still earthdogs capable of hard working the quarrys...

 

for hog hunting, in the iberia there is much better breeds for that kind of work.

do you think that a 90kg hog will be stopped by 4 tiny 10kg terriers?

 

there is some dogos crosses, bull and spanish hound crosses, perros de presa, etc.

 

best regards,

Edited January 28, 2010 by heshimus

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

I had a StaffxPatt a few years ago, I didn't know anything about it's breeding but had it given to me so I thought I'd try it out and give it a chance. As things turned out it was the biggest gobshite of a dog I've ever had around me, a complete waste of space.

 

When it got excited it used to cry like you was kicking the daylights out of it and would piss all over the place.

 

F*cking thing.

 

That's not to say there's no decent Bull X Terriers out there, but he was a joke.