steveS.Yorks 161 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Anyone who walks in the vets now with any dog thats obviously been damaged repeatedly is in trouble unless they can prove all injuries have been come by within the law and treated by a vet asap. All our local vets want you to register with them,so you wouldnt take much tracking down,bet your arse vets are told to report suspicious multiple injuries to a dog. All this really does is prevent a dog that needs expert treatement being treated imo. ps i know a lad who was prosecuted and had the dog temporearily confiscated,six months after he got the dog back the RSPCA came round with the coppers and the dog had 2 less teeth[they counted them when they had him the first time]the lad got 4 months jail. Quote Link to post
watchman 256 Posted January 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 whats the laws on this ?? the law is that you can legally shoot your own dog,even a mates as long as there is no charge,i think Quote Link to post
watchman 256 Posted January 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 i agree with whipptet 99, dont get me wrong if my dog was seriously injured in a accident in the middle of no where and i had a gun, i would hate it but id do it. however and this is a very big however, if a dog has properly grafted for you and been your companion for 14 years being shot in the head is not the way to go. there is no dignity in that. pay more and have the vet come round your house and have a small injection with all the family around. if your clever you would insure your dog/s when there one years old so its cheap (it costs me £6 per month) so for the vet to come round my house and have it put to sleep would only cost the excess wich i think is 30 quid. and i may be missing the point but im going to say it anyway, and baring in mind iv got to good working dogs that hunt nearly every day of the year and are fit and fearless as they come, our dogs nowadays arnt doing a job, there doing our hobby. nobody needs lurchers to make a living anymore, they no longer need to be kept like tools. there living creature and if you want a tool a rifle or shotgun is much more economic. who can hold there hands up and say they need their lurchers to survive financialy? its impossible, bit of beer money yes, but i they should no longer be seen as tools. i was talking to a couple of old boys in my local and they said there lurchers used to make them a living 30+ years ago but you cant do it now. they also said while they kept lurchers to earn them a living they were still a companion and a faithfull friend and was not disposed of after it cant work any longer. some may say i sound like a anti. i think i have compassion to the only living things that enjoy what i love doing more than me, the hunt. these amazing animals that sit faithfully at our feet should never be disposed of because they no longer serve a purpose they should be shown respect in the owners home that they have faithfully hunted with there whole life. i dont no about everybody elses dogs but mine would die for me. and as far as im concerned anybody or any animal that would do that for me has a place for life in my home. just my opinion im sure it is wrong in all you tough guys eyes. i completely understand what your saying mate,this is one of the reasons my dogs are now kennelled,well apart from one,family have no attachment to my lurchers,therefor do not have to go through the agony of coming home and telling them iv lost another dog,either through injury /or whatever else the reason may be,if i take the decision its down to me and me only,something i have to live with,not my wife and kids,dogs are lost in this game all to regular as it is, Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 I think people dont understand why some would rather do the deed themselves than a vet do it. Personally i feel its more respectable to do it yourself when the time comes than have a vet do it and better for the dog. I see working dogs/animals as mates and if it was my time i would feel happier my mate/partner doing it than a stranger. But the most important aspect is the dog, less stress and faster the better! Its not about beeing 'hard' its about doing the right thing... Quote Link to post
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 When a dog has served its time in the field, it should be aloud to have a happy and restfull retirement(in the house or kennel). For all the hours of joy, excitement and sport they give you its the least they deserve whether it be lurcher, terrier or gundog. Its not to say they dont get to come out, sometimes beneficial to have the OAPs out for a mooch now and again. People who sell dogs on at an old age makes my piss boil, they will never have good dogs because they dont have any respect Like that c**t who sold the 7year old bull x on the other thread. And when the time comes, doing the deed yourself shows the upmost respect for your animal, its not about saving costs. Take them out in the field, where they love to be and they wont even know its happened. Drag them to the vets and they know something is up, there not daft. All the best FTB 1 Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 When a dog has served its time in the field, it should be aloud to have a happy and restfull retirement(in the house or kennel). For all the hours of joy, excitement and sport they give you its the least they deserve whether it be lurcher, terrier or gundog. Its not to say they dont get to come out, sometimes beneficial to have the OAPs out for a mooch now and again. People who sell dogs on at an old age makes my piss boil, they will never have good dogs because they dont have any respect Like that c**t who sold the 7year old bull x on the other thread. And when the time comes, doing the deed yourself shows the upmost respect for your animal, its not about saving costs. Take them out in the field, where they love to be and they wont even know its happened. Drag them to the vets and they know something is up, there not daft. All the best FTB Thats bang on totally agree.I was going to say if it was a marked up old bull cross you could pass it on to a young lad Quote Link to post
Trigger 26 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 my dog will live in the house when he is retired and allowed to live his days out as comfotable as possibble. if the day comes and he needs to be P.T.S i will call the vet to the house and have him put to sleep at home. he as been with me since 9weeks of age and has earnt his right to stay with me until his death. Quote Link to post
the_stig 6,614 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 my 11 year old russells curled up by the fire - done her bit enjoying retirement . loves an hours ratting and no cats safe if it comes on the yard ... 1 Quote Link to post
the_stig 6,614 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 whats the laws on this ?? the law is that you can legally shoot your own dog,even a mates as long as there is no charge,i think i dont know if thats right ? anyone know for sure ? Quote Link to post
Kay 3,709 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 As far as i understand it its not illegal to kill a dog.. its illegal to allow it to suffer ... so providing its clean & as quick as possible then i assume no crime has been commited i was told this some yrs ago so its possible the laws changed since then but not that i am aware of Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,032 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) The guy who was killing the Greyhounds last year, in , I think, Sunderland, using a bolt gun, was not prosocuted and found guilty of killing dogs, he was done for disposing of the bodies without a lisence. The police and the RSPCA used to use him to kill dogs, but the press and antis made sure he was done for something ! Cheers. Edited January 25, 2010 by chartpolski Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 I could never repay any loyal dog with a bullet in head.Rather have it jagged Quote Link to post
johnny 2 367 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I could never repay any loyal dog with a bullet in head.Rather have it jagged Well have to agree,but it seems they are people on here that think its ok to shoot them Quote Link to post
sounder 9 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 great post and not in a bad way, as this topic will fall on each and everyone on us at some stage well for me i use my own hand's in the way of the gun , in my case i would not have the room the hold onto a dog that's not there to work, i had a bitch for 7 year's and her time came the deed was done i never will one like her atb sounder Quote Link to post
watchman 256 Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 very interesting mix of answers,lets forget about shooting for a moment,if you could get the jab,would it change your mind on who is the better person to put your dog down,or rather if you could not shoot your own dog could you inject it instead,just a thought for those that disagree with shooting it Quote Link to post
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