help needed! i need your opinions

[charlie h 0]

dear all, i need your help with reserch for my dissertation, i am doing it on:

 

 

"the most cost effective method of rabbit control"

 

 

i need everyones opinions, experince and thoughs on which type of rabbit control is most effective and the average costs across the country.

 

any information i could get would be of great help!

 

Charlie

[salukiwhippet 6]

Bit of an open question that chap. Do you include man-hours? Or take into account suitability (or otherwise) of the site for certain methods?

 

James

[stubby 175]

depends if your a landowner, or pricing to do the job for someone, but Id say a drop trap, initial outlay may be high, but once installed, its there, dosent need servicing, inspected once daily to collect rabbits, can be locked closed and re opened at a later date, self setting, and can get good catch rates

[charlie h 0]

Bit of an open question that chap. Do you include man-hours? Or take into account suitability (or otherwise) of the site for certain methods?

 

James

 

I know that's the problem, I need to first of all establish a threshold for rabbit numbers, e.g when there are over 20 rabbits a Ha then they need controlling, after that it's a case of finding the cost per rabbit/Ha to reduce the numbers.

Do you charge for rabbit control? If so what are the rough prices per hour/day or yearly contract? Or is it worked out by the control used such as snaring a 10Ha field for one week is say £60 a day (£30 a visit)

 

thank you for getting back to me so quickly!

 

Charlie

[charlie h 0]

depends if your a landowner, or pricing to do the job for someone, but Id say a drop trap, initial outlay may be high, but once installed, its there, dosent need servicing, inspected once daily to collect rabbits, can be locked closed and re opened at a later date, self setting, and can get good catch rates

 

having spoken to a few land owners they are running on a three year rotation so trying to get them to see the long term benefits is tricky! However I completely agree that long term they are the way forward,

 

what do you think is cheaper initally but will only reduce numbers that year? Do you have any ideas of costs for a pest controller to do the work?

 

Thank you for your message, no one I know has used forums for reserch before so this could be intresting!

 

Regards

 

Charlie

[Ideation 8,216]

Snares are a good start if you know what your doing - very cheap initial outlay and if laid well and in sufficient numbers can be very effective. Also rabbit proof fencing around an area followed by very very thorough ferreting is actually a pretty cost effective and successful method of controlling them on smaller parcels of land.

[Ideation 8,216]

it sickens me to say it - but gassing is also probably cost effective as is myxi. sick sick sick tho.

[steamingutpiles 117]

dear all, i need your help with reserch for my dissertation, i am doing it on:

 

 

"the most cost effective method of rabbit control"

 

 

i need everyones opinions, experince and thoughs on which type of rabbit control is most effective and the average costs across the country.

 

any information i could get would be of great help!

 

Charlie

An integrated control program involving the use of several effectice management tools is usually the most cost effective in the long run. eg ferretting, trapping/snaring coupled with harbour destruction and exclusionary fencing. Depending of the circumstances, warren fumigation an poisoning using 1080 or an anticoagulant (pindone)are also very effective. Edited January 25, 2010 by steamingutpiles

[charlie h 0]

dear all, i need your help with reserch for my dissertation, i am doing it on:

 

 

"the most cost effective method of rabbit control"

 

 

i need everyones opinions, experince and thoughs on which type of rabbit control is most effective and the average costs across the country.

 

any information i could get would be of great help!

 

Charlie

An integrated control program involving the use of several effectice management tools is usually the most cost effective in the long run. eg ferretting, trapping/snaring coupled with harbour destruction and exclusionary fencing. Depending of the circumstances, warren fumigation an poisoning using 1080 or an anticoagulant (pindone)are also very effective.

 

can you poison rabbits in the uk? Please could I have some more info on it?

 

Charlie

[nod 285]

dear all, i need your help with reserch for my dissertation, i am doing it on:

 

 

"the most cost effective method of rabbit control"

 

 

i need everyones opinions, experince and thoughs on which type of rabbit control is most effective and the average costs across the country.

 

any information i could get would be of great help!

 

Charlie

An integrated control program involving the use of several effectice management tools is usually the most cost effective in the long run. eg ferretting, trapping/snaring coupled with harbour destruction and exclusionary fencing. Depending of the circumstances, warren fumigation an poisoning using 1080 or an anticoagulant (pindone)are also very effective.

 

can you poison rabbits in the uk? Please could I have some more info on it?

 

Charlie

 

you cannot use any poisons on rabbits in the uk, only gassing is the most potent stuff we have.

[salclalin 240]

dear all, i need your help with reserch for my dissertation, i am doing it on:

 

 

"the most cost effective method of rabbit control"

 

 

i need everyones opinions, experince and thoughs on which type of rabbit control is most effective and the average costs across the country.

 

any information i could get would be of great help!

 

Charlie

An integrated control program involving the use of several effectice management tools is usually the most cost effective in the long run. eg ferretting, trapping/snaring coupled with harbour destruction and exclusionary fencing. Depending of the circumstances, warren fumigation an poisoning using 1080 or an anticoagulant (pindone)are also very effective.

 

can you poison rabbits in the uk? Please could I have some more info on it?

 

Charlie

 

you cannot use any poisons on rabbits in the uk, only gassing is the most potent stuff we have.

I thought Gassing (Cymag) was Banned?

[Matt 160]

Cymag has, indeed been withdrawn; not because it is unsafe, but because it would have cost the manufacturer too much money to put it through Europe (the Biocides Directive). We are left with Aluminium Phosphide fumigation compounds as the only chemical control method with is legal in the UK.

 

Gassing does have some advantages, but the cost of the product combined with the level of qualification needed to purchase and use the product makes it quite expensive.

 

I would agree with the earlier post that it very much depends on the circumstances. If you are asking what the most 'cost effective' way for farmers to control rabbits is; then I would have to say opening the land up to ferreters.

 

In reality, the best answer has to be a combined campaign using several methods, with exclusion and access management (fencing and box trapping) being the primary on-going methods which will produce the best effect; although the ones that require the greatest capital investment.

 

Ferreting, snaring, block trapping, cage trapping, lamping and gassing are all effective methods, but they are most successful when used as part of an overall management plan.

 

What part of the world are you in?

[salukiwhippet 6]

As said, an integrated approach is the only way of controlling rabbits. However, if I had to pick one method for numbers killed versus equipment outlay and time, I'd have to say snaring by a skilled user. However, not all (and increasingly few) situations are suitable for snaring on a large scale nowadays.

 

James

[furdy 0]

Have a look on the natural england website. There are some interesting study papers published on there that bear out most of what has already been said here.

 

They put cull figures as a percentage of population to some of the popular control methods. The figure for gassing seems a little high to me at 95% as they weren't specific as to soil type in the tests.

 

I would say that ferreting would score highly as a control method. It was interesting to note that gassing, ferreting and cage trapping close to bury's produced more does, whereas shooting at a distance from bury's gave predominantly bucks in the returns.

 

Obviously the more does that can be removed the more effective the control of population which would seem to explain why ferreting and gassing are so effective.

[micky 3,325]

dear all, i need your help with reserch for my dissertation, i am doing it on:

 

 

"the most cost effective method of rabbit control"

 

 

i need everyones opinions, experince and thoughs on which type of rabbit control is most effective and the average costs across the country.

 

any information i could get would be of great help!

 

Charlie

22 rifle,i have lamped and ferreted for 50 odd years,and every time igo out shooting at night i allways think ,its a good job theres not many of these guns in genral use,i know men who often shoot 100+ on a night,and one disabled5 bloke from Grantham who shoots over 5000 a year, daytime,