incapacity benefit

[black lab 3]

"Makes me laugth when people moan about what other people get

If you all got laid off tomorrow or got ill or one of your kids got ill

youd be straight down the job centre,council seeing what you were intitled to

Mick.."

 

Naw mate, id be out looking for work.

Some of us have morals.

FTB

 

Very noble of you. I have morals too, but unfortunately my kids can't live on them...

 

What have you paid into the system over your working life? You've paid got knows how much into 'the system', not just income tax, fags, beer, petrol, clothes, shoes, food, etc, it's all taxable, and your morals would stop you asking for some of it back in a time of need??

All you have to do is turn into a JUNKIE or DRINK and you get everything thats going, the fcuker's next to me even get £17 allowance a week to feed there DOG and its out in the streets 24/7 in all weather and the woman LOL of the house is a baby making machine, she has had 6 taken from her and still has 3 in the house, what a life to be a junkie/drunk ps i think they own a taxi firm or sell drugs

[Malt 379]

"Makes me laugth when people moan about what other people get

If you all got laid off tomorrow or got ill or one of your kids got ill

youd be straight down the job centre,council seeing what you were intitled to

Mick.."

 

Naw mate, id be out looking for work.

Some of us have morals.

FTB

 

Very noble of you. I have morals too, but unfortunately my kids can't live on them...

 

What have you paid into the system over your working life? You've paid got knows how much into 'the system', not just income tax, fags, beer, petrol, clothes, shoes, food, etc, it's all taxable, and your morals would stop you asking for some of it back in a time of need??

All you have to do is turn into a JUNKIE or DRINK and you get everything thats going, the fcuker's next to me even get £17 allowance a week to feed there DOG and its out in the streets 24/7 in all weather and the woman LOL of the house is a baby making machine, she has had 6 taken from her and still has 3 in the house, what a life to be a junkie/drunk ps i think they own a taxi firm or sell drugs

 

I couldn't agree more, and it's the people like that who create the stigma for genuine folk, and make it difficult for them to get the support they're rightfully entitled to. People don't realise, but the decision makers don't actually read the applications, they just speed read them looking for certain words that will disallow a claim. The problem is that certain groups of people who have abused the system since leaving school get wise to this and know exactly what to write...

[Alan108 0]

Disability Living Allowance is not means tested - so yes, you can work and still get the payment, if you are fit enough to do so. It is meant to cover the expenses which are often greater for disabled people than for the able bodied (and trust me - some of those expenses you won't have even thought of).

 

"Motability" - the system which provides a car for disabled people, can only be accessed if you are in receipt of the higher rate of the "mobility" component of Disability Living Allowance. You do not receive that component of the benefit AND the car - the benefit pays for the car, it's either/or. You may still receive the "care" component of Disability Living Allowance if you are entitled to it. The recipient of the benefit makes that choice when the benefit is granted. If you have a Motability car/receive higher rate "mobility" component you are also entitled to free car tax.

 

But Disability Living Allowance itself is separately assessed from any other benefit (pension/pension credit/income support/jobseeker's allowance/housing benefit or whatever). There are plenty of places online where you can do a "benefit check" to see what you or your family members are entitled to, and plenty of organisations who will help you or them make a claim.

 

"Paying tax to help the weak" is supposed to be the mark of a civilised society, isn't it? Inevitably some will take advantage and slip through, gaining what they shouldn't, and others will find it hard to get what they need but on the whole it is a necessary system.

 

Claiming benefit is no picnic, and neither is living on it, for most people. I worked all my life until I got sick. If I had the choice between still working now, being fit and healthy; or claiming benefit, I'd take the fit and healthy any day.

 

I agree 100% with this poster, I had a massive heart attack in 1993 at the age of 47,having worked up till then,I was told by the specialists that it would be unadvisable to try and work again,in 1994 I had quad by-pass surgery,but, 8 days after I had another heart attack.I was advised to apply for DLA (Disability Living Allowance) but, was turned down 6 times,even though I had the proof of my condition,I finally got the dla awarded,but,18 months afterwards,I was visited by a doctor to "test" me,and 1 week after I was threatened with court for defrauding the agency.I took it to a tribunal with a solicitor and all the medical paper work from the specialist at Guys hospital winning the case,and receiving an apology from the agency.Since then,I've had 6 angioplastys,4 stents inserted and 2 years ago had another heart attack.I receive £112 per week in incapacity benefit,and £19 per week in DLA. THAT'S ALL. I would sooner be out working and earning a wage.It aint easy trying to get by on benefits,but,I agree that some seem to get a massive amount of benefits somehow.It's been said by different charities that there is more UNCLAIMED benefits then there is fraudulently being claimed.The whole system needs a radical shake-up.

 

Alan

Edited January 22, 2010 by Alan108

[FightTheBan 1,147]

Alan you are 100% correct. My gran has a serious health condition, a very honest woman who has worked all her life. She decided to apply for some sort of benefit and was turned down, it has put her off ever applying again. If you know how to work the system you can milk it for all its worth, makes me fckin sick.

Honest people are not rewarded in this day and age, if you do well you are penalised (high taxes), if you stay married you get nothing. As soon as you split up, become a drunk or junkie you get everything handed on a plate.

Who says labour is for the working man, its for the lazy scum that should be shot at birth.

 

If you decide to become a drunk or junkie you should get fck all, tough titty, you made your bed now lie in it.

 

FTB

[Alan108 0]

Fight The Ban. you are so correct in what you say.A few years ago my father was in hospital 20 miles away and I was on benefits, so when I visited him in hospital I decided to claim my travelling expenses back,but, was told that I couldn't.BUT,if he had been in PRISON I could!!! What a crazy way to treat people!

 

Alan

[poacher3161 1,766]

Lets not forget all the immagrants who come here with incureable diseases that claim incapacity benefits.I would personally would not give a penny to these people as well as all the alkys and druggies.I was on incapacity benefit 5 years ago due to an accident wile working scaffolding thats now left me on pain killers the rest of my life.I got kicked off it because some one reported me to the DWP for walking my dogs wich i was managing to do despite being in pain they said if i could manage to walk my dogs their was some type of work i could do i agree to a certain exstent but why dont they stop smack heads benefits [bANNED TEXT] they rob and mug to fund their habit answer IMHO is the crime rate would go up so its easier to pay them high benefits

[black lab 3]

I had a car crash a few years ago in my works van someone ran into me head on and i ended up doing my back in, ok now, when i was off work i was told by my doctor to go and have a medical, when i went there was a queue in the place i went to, there was a guy next to me who had suffered a stroke and was in a bad way i mean very bad the guy should have been indoors not in a queue, he went into the room and came out in tears they had taking him of benefits and said he could do office work, he was a brickie to trade! i went in with a sore back and i got benefits ALL WRONG

[roady 0]

the system needs a massive shake up,to many skivers abusing it,gets them 10 pints a day in the club though ,when the genuine folk have to fight hook line and sinker to prove they realy need it.

[nealey 0]

she told me how much she gets .......£740 incapacity benefit a month £1000 dla for 2 kids a month child benefit £150 a month £480 tax credits a month £2370 ........i get half that a month for 40 hours a week.and i have a wife and 2 kids......really pisst me off all day.......

Load of bollcks mate, incapacity is only £89. a week http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/FinancialSupport/DG_10016082 and here,s the DLA prices http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/FinancialSupport/DisabilityLivingAllowance/DG_10011925

Cheers

[zap 4]

Makes me laugth when people moan about what other people get

If you all got laid off tomorrow or got ill or one of your kids got ill

youd be straight down the job centre,council seeing what you were intitled to

Mick..

well i can assure you when my lad fell ill then died the last thing i was thinking about was making money of it we took nothing ,so no i would not be straight out looking for benefits some things in life are a lot more important than money

[zap 4]

sorry double post

[FightTheBan 1,147]

"well i can assure you when my lad fell ill then died the last thing i was thinking about was making money of it we took nothing ,so no i would not be straight out looking for benefits some things in life are a lot more important than money"

 

well said bud, unfortunately there are alot of people who dont think along the same lines as yourself

All the best.

FTB

[rob.i 26]

What a load of nonsense gets posted about benefits I unfortunately had to claim once due to accident It was a minefield even had to go to a dss main office to be examined by a doctor to see how bad I was. I had actually broke my neck but they gave me a proper examination and the pain was horrendous I claimed about £60 a week I couldnt claim any more no matter which avenue I went down and dont think it was easy living on benefits it wasnt those who are spouting the shite should try it once theyll soon change their minds

[poacher3161 1,766]

What a load of nonsense gets posted about benefits I unfortunately had to claim once due to accident It was a minefield even had to go to a dss main office to be examined by a doctor to see how bad I was. I had actually broke my neck but they gave me a proper examination and the pain was horrendous I claimed about £60 a week I couldnt claim any more no matter which avenue I went down and dont think it was easy living on benefits it wasnt those who are spouting the shite should try it once theyll soon change their minds

I agree totally as i was in the same situation i think wat people are pissed of about like me is that druggies and alkys get their money topped up and dont have to go through rigorouse medical examinations to prove their not fit for work unlike some one who has had an accident wile working instead of just getting pissed every day or pumping shit into their bodys.

[rob.i 26]

I did hear that druggies and alks get more but thought it was bullshit think Ill start drinking and drugging it