saluki

[Guest Mass_G3nocide]

Poor pup with a defect like that i would give it away to a non working home.Some breeders just dont care.I once see a puppy spriger like that,.Now the dogs fine i cant remember what it was called.

[riohog 5,701]

its not a major problem ,these alledged defects and yes khan stuff is googd without doubt,but remember how khan is bred ....tepe/gawra x kizzy pharoh and dont think for a minuet e an injection of coo blood is the silver bullet , and will cure all,take it from me ,there is alot more sh...t coo blood out there than enough with major problems..

 

kizzy /pharoh ..tepe gawra ,is some of the fastest sal blood you can find anywhare in the world and im sure it will be around for a while yet ,yes there is allways room for inprovement ,it takes time ,could be years of carefull breeding to do this , its a tricky job and no quick fix answers , finding genuine working stock from around the world isnt easy ,and finding good stuff is a fkn nightmare

 

Kizzy/pharoh saluki pup.

Meerihunter also had a pup from similar lines with the same problem

whats the name of the sire and dam to that pup?

[riohog 5,701]

and if ,,it is a genetic fauld ..well the answer is simple ,spay ..castrate or cull

[miles 227]

grand parents 2 my new pup

The bitch on the kennel looks VERY much like she,s off Deacon ...........was her dam Brian T,s "Pip"?

[hairymick 2]

this pup has rickets caused by cold and or lack of vitamins keep him warm and give him some raw meat for 2 or 3 weeks and take another photo make sure he is fullv wormed first

[cody 4]

saw a bull terreir pup like that years ago in burnley the guiy says it will grow out of it never saw it again ,poor pup being bent like that touch woon never saw apup like that

[arcticgun 4,548]

its not a major problem ,these alledged defects and yes khan stuff is googd without doubt,but remember how khan is bred ....tepe/gawra x kizzy pharoh and dont think for a minuet e an injection of coo blood is the silver bullet , and will cure all,take it from me ,there is alot more sh...t coo blood out there than enough with major problems..

 

kizzy /pharoh ..tepe gawra ,is some of the fastest sal blood you can find anywhare in the world and im sure it will be around for a while yet ,yes there is allways room for inprovement ,it takes time ,could be years of carefull breeding to do this , its a tricky job and no quick fix answers , finding genuine working stock from around the world isnt easy ,and finding good stuff is a fkn nightmare

 

Kizzy/pharoh saluki pup.

Meerihunter also had a pup from similar lines with the same problem

whats the name of the sire and dam to that pup?

 

The sire was Delightful Cruise from the N.E., cannot for the life of me remember the dams name , i had a brief conversation with the breeders whilst the litter was for sale but thankfully decided not to pursue buying one

[SCOTTY1 3]

NEW BLOOD IS DEFINITLY NEEDED

[Annie 0]

Wasn't the dam Dellarus, it was a mother son mating and there was a suggestion of bad nutrition while rearing. I've seen a couple of lurcher pups like that poor little sod.

[riohog 5,701]

to be expected then .has know bearing on the auto -imune issue though!!!

[Meerihunter 7]

and if ,,it is a genetic fauld ..well the answer is simple ,spay ..castrate or cull

 

The answer is unfortunately no where near as simple as neutering/spaying or culling as they maybe carriers of the condition but not show it themselves and if paired to another carrier you will get pups with this problem.

 

The problem could really blow up in our faces after a few more generations tight line breeding, I know COO stock can have its own problems but outcrossing can only improve the gentic health of Saluki in the UK.

 

That is the nature of these problems, before you know it it's through the whole line and then there is nothing you can do about it.

[Endgame 68]

grand parents 2 my new pup

The bitch on the kennel looks VERY much like she,s off Deacon ...........was her dam Brian T,s "Pip"?

THOMMO AINT ON THIS WEBSITE [bANNED TEXT]. EXACTLY WHAT DOG DO U MEAN IS FM DEACON & PIP & I,LL ASK HIM? THAT LITTER IS GOING BACK A BIT NOW.

[riohog 5,701]

and if ,,it is a genetic fauld ..well the answer is simple ,spay ..castrate or cull

 

The answer is unfortunately no where near as simple as neutering/spaying or culling as they maybe carriers of the condition but not show it themselves and if paired to another carrier you will get pups with this problem.

 

The problem could really blow up in our faces after a few more generations tight line breeding, I know COO stock can have its own problems but outcrossing can only improve the gentic health of Saluki in the UK.

 

That is the nature of these problems, before you know it it's through the whole line and then there is nothing you can do about it.

well if they are carriers of these ...conditions and its genetic new blood wont cure it !! the genetic fault will still be there .for many generations .cull out the obvious dissorders blood tests and cull carriers by that time you have a new line !!! perhaps be more selective in the breeding and cull hard that applies to all breeds

[Endgame 68]

Wasn't the dam Dellarus, it was a mother son mating and there was a suggestion of bad nutrition while rearing. I've seen a couple of lurcher pups like that poor little sod.

NATIVE SALUKIS USED 2 OFTEN SUFFER FM SUCH CONDITIONS DUE 2 CALCIUM/PHOS, DEFICENCY DUE 2 POOR DIET. UNLIKELY 2 BE THE CASE HERE AS THE CONDITION REOCCURED. MORE LIKELY A GENETIC PROBLEM. I AGREE WITH RIOHOG "CULL OR CASTRATE" HARSH AS IT MAY SOUND.

[Meerihunter 7]

its not a major problem ,these alledged defects and yes khan stuff is googd without doubt,but remember how khan is bred ....tepe/gawra x kizzy pharoh and dont think for a minuet e an injection of coo blood is the silver bullet , and will cure all,take it from me ,there is alot more sh...t coo blood out there than enough with major problems..

 

kizzy /pharoh ..tepe gawra ,is some of the fastest sal blood you can find anywhare in the world and im sure it will be around for a while yet ,yes there is allways room for inprovement ,it takes time ,could be years of carefull breeding to do this , its a tricky job and no quick fix answers , finding genuine working stock from around the world isnt easy ,and finding good stuff is a fkn nightmare

 

The problem with khan is simple over use, the generation is swamped with khan blooded Saluki's, just the same as champion stud superiority in the show dog world it simply reduces the gene blood further.

 

Again I agree there is no doubting the working ability of his offspring, there is a bigger picture here though than simply producing the next generation of coursing dogs.