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tell me what genetic faults cant be tested for ? auto imune was mentioned that can be tested for and any other faults that are genetic can be tested for . not rocket science is it !!

who told you there is a test for every genetic fault, if it was that easy there would be a lot fewer kids born with all sorts of things wrong with them, never mind dogs.
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I love these threads, But am i right in thinking no one has actually slated kizzy/pharoh/ khan lines everyone seems to agree they are some, if not the best, lines in europe maybe even the world.  

fact is they are from the same lines,cruise, cruise junior, kizzy ect ect ect .fact. if they was been bred to further the breed then why isnt there new blood been entered into the breeding lines. im

it seems that the pure saluki has been turned into the new border terrier, it was only 5 yrs ago that you couldnt give them away unlike the border that was like gold dust to breeders. a guy from the

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the best test ive ever seen is not idle gossip or self assumptions its laid out in the middle of a fen its a dark tump get with 30 or 40 yrds of it and let go of the lead it usually only takes about two minutes to tell you weather theres any faults or not .

true mate but not a recessive fault.

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tell me what genetic faults cant be tested for ? auto imune was mentioned that can be tested for and any other faults that are genetic can be tested for . not rocket science is it !!

who told you there is a test for every genetic fault, if it was that easy there would be a lot fewer kids born with all sorts of things wrong with them, never mind dogs.

ok ill go along with that ,but auto imune and groth disorders were mentioned in the kizzy /pharoh line , and aledgedly other lines of salukis surly blood tests will show these disorders and if they are possative in a particular dog and bitch they should not be bred from there will be resesive genes that dont show themselves for several generations if ever that will have to be delt with as and when !!

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the best test ive ever seen is not idle gossip or self assumptions its laid out in the middle of a fen its a dark tump get with 30 or 40 yrds of it and let go of the lead it usually only takes about two minutes to tell you weather theres any faults or not .

true mate but not a recessive fault. im not looking for an argument but dont do the politician bit . prove and show the proven recessive fault . because my answer to it is pure and simple its bullshit the only way to show this for the shit it is is to get out on the field . come on lets be straight youve printed this crap about kizzy pharoh breeding youve been asked to put up but aint . you still come back with politicians answers and you aint either put up what veterinary school your affiliated with to substantiate this crap . but what i will say is this if theres a better litter of pures in england than the one i bred by khan lets get it on . look this is a concerted effort to slang a certain line of salukies from certain quarters and we are aware where from .take it to pm and lets have a day .khan bred against we know whos stock .cos we wont be invited will we :clapper:

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Don't know about the auto immune trouble in the kizzy /pharoh line but i did have one die of something else but as i didn't have a autopsy done on the dog, he blow up like a balloon ( maybe it was autoimmune) i could only go on what the vet said it was. but i have seen the trouble with the legs before like i said in anther post, and undershot jaws, very bad temperaments which is why i don't keep that line anymore.

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Don't know about the auto immune trouble in the kizzy /pharoh line but i did have one die of something else but as i didn't have a autopsy done on the dog, he blow up like a balloon ( maybe it was autoimmune) i could only go on what the vet said it was. but i have seen the trouble with the legs before like i said in anther post, and undershot jaws, very bad temperaments which is why i don't keep that line anymore.

as a matter of interest what line do you keep ?

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true mate but not a recessive fault. im not looking for an argument but dont do the politician bit . prove and show the proven recessive fault . because my answer to it is pure and simple its bullshit the only way to show this for the shit it is is to get out on the field . come on lets be straight youve printed this crap about kizzy pharoh breeding youve been asked to put up but aint . you still come back with politicians answers and you aint either put up what veterinary school your affiliated with to substantiate this crap . but what i will say is this if theres a better litter of pures in england than the one i bred by khan lets get it on . look this is a concerted effort to slang a certain line of salukies from certain quarters and we are aware where from .take it to pm and lets have a day .khan bred against we know whos stock .cos we wont be invited will we :clapper:

Brookie dont know what your going on about with the politician stuff just going one what ive seen with my own two eyes.

Whos stock are you talking about? and whos the certain quarters ? if i had a young dog i would run for the fun of it and it wouldnt be the fens i would want to run on. anyway i don't have a young dog and until i can get a good Desert bred bitch to run and and later breed to my dog i wont.

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true mate but not a recessive fault. im not looking for an argument but dont do the politician bit . prove and show the proven recessive fault . because my answer to it is pure and simple its bullshit the only way to show this for the shit it is is to get out on the field . come on lets be straight youve printed this crap about kizzy pharoh breeding youve been asked to put up but aint . you still come back with politicians answers and you aint either put up what veterinary school your affiliated with to substantiate this crap . but what i will say is this if theres a better litter of pures in england than the one i bred by khan lets get it on . look this is a concerted effort to slang a certain line of salukies from certain quarters and we are aware where from .take it to pm and lets have a day .khan bred against we know whos stock .cos we wont be invited will we :clapper:

Brookie dont know what your going on about with the politician stuff just going one what ive seen with my own two eyes.

Whos stock are you talking about? and whos the certain quarters ? if i had a young dog i would run for the fun of it and it wouldnt be the fens i would want to run on. anyway i don't have a young dog and until i can get a good Desert bred bitch to run and and later breed to my dog i wont.

as you dont keep kizzy /pharoh any more what line of salukis do you keep?
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what is best saluki pure running now if i may ask and hw do they compare to proper coursing strains what run fen

ive got the best pure single handed in europe today and its by khan and i bred it and its sister and brother are 2nd and 3rd best and theyre mother is as good if not better . what ever the critics have lets get it on . these are the best pures running today full stop if this khan stuff is not upto scratch lets run it against this so called superior stock . which i say dont exist lets dont keep arguing lets get it pm and get it on :thumbs:
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true mate but not a recessive fault. im not looking for an argument but dont do the politician bit . prove and show the proven recessive fault . because my answer to it is pure and simple its bullshit the only way to show this for the shit it is is to get out on the field . come on lets be straight youve printed this crap about kizzy pharoh breeding youve been asked to put up but aint . you still come back with politicians answers and you aint either put up what veterinary school your affiliated with to substantiate this crap . but what i will say is this if theres a better litter of pures in england than the one i bred by khan lets get it on . look this is a concerted effort to slang a certain line of salukies from certain quarters and we are aware where from .take it to pm and lets have a day .khan bred against we know whos stock .cos we wont be invited will we :clapper:

Brookie dont know what your going on about with the politician stuff just going one what ive seen with my own two eyes.

Whos stock are you talking about? and whos the certain quarters ? if i had a young dog i would run for the fun of it and it wouldnt be the fens i would want to run on. anyway i don't have a young dog and until i can get a good Desert bred bitch to run and and later breed to my dog i wont.

well put the proof up concerning your allegations about khan im not defending khan himself but im certainly defending his lineage and you cannot prove your allegations on this site and you should apologise and admit your failings if my memory serves me well you was pulled on this some time ago on this subject on another site
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