kens black stuff

[jake824 517]

any one wishing to get true ken goulds black stuff{ no messers no time wasters no soft lads who are scared of a bit of digging and a true hard working terrier} then pm spookie as he will be breeding later this year to stuff from nigger smithy simon troy turbo eyeball sparticus blackjack and all the top names from kens stock old and new {no brian nuttal fans need apply }

tried a dog this way bred , genuine breeding as well had some of these in its pedigree. not impressed at all

[Guest NICOLA]

he seemed ok to me and theres bad in every breeding look how much stuff out there is gouldy bred or gould in there breeding and bet theres more workers than none workers

[fmwtc 12]

spaticus was bred by dave and given to paul it was no good for paul and then given to ken the dog was a bit more than 9 month old at the time as they had been working him this is fact straight from daves mouth

[madgerboy 11]

Just a simple question.did anyone on here ever dig the dog as an adult,not a puppy.and if so how did they rate him?maybe he was just a good producer,how many times has it been said don t breed of the good dog,breed off the dog that produced him?obviousely he threw workers but was he anything special himself?

[chris hickling 14]

i no ken and have seen troy and turbo as pups and the bitch they came out of was 1 hell of a digging dog gave its all every time out and the man that worked her sons is a tru digging man,if the pups breeding is true they be good uns and worth haveing .chris

[fmwtc 12]

Just a simple question.did anyone on here ever dig the dog as an adult,not a puppy.and if so how did they rate him?maybe he was just a good producer,how many times has it been said don t breed of the good dog,breed off the dog that produced him?obviousely he threw workers but was he anything special himself?

like what has already been said sparticus was nothing special but did throw excellent pups if he was that good they wouldnt of partd with him to ken

[DOC MARTIN 17]

why breed out of something thats nothing special

[MISTY 11]

why breed out of something thats nothing special

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[fmwtc 12]

lads the point of why breed out of something that isnt special there is lads all over the country that will NEVER EVER OWN a special one and if you do you will be lucky to ever own one again as good. A special dog to different men is a different dog ive seen and owned some good dogs but only ever seen a handfull of special dogs the dogs that will stop and do the job no matter how hard it becomes the ones with the extra gear. The drive of a catterpillar d8 makin a hard situation look easy and taking little grief for doing a job text book style the men who know the job will undertand what im on about those that dont will mock.Just remember one tihg lads put the best to the best and you may just one day get that special one best of luck

[MISTY 11]

lads the point of why breed out of something that isnt special there is lads all over the country that will NEVER EVER OWN a special one and if you do you will be lucky to ever own one again as good. A special dog to different men is a different dog ive seen and owned some good dogs but only ever seen a handfull of special dogs the dogs that will stop and do the job no matter how hard it becomes the ones with the extra gear. The drive of a catterpillar d8 makin a hard situation look easy and taking little grief for doing a job text book style the men who know the job will undertand what im on about those that dont will mock.Just remember one tihg lads put the best to the best and you may just one day get that special one best of luck

Fair enough but a puppy peddlar is just that, and £££££££££ is the main motive for breeding in that case .

[jackard 36]

lads the point of why breed out of something that isnt special there is lads all over the country that will NEVER EVER OWN a special one and if you do you will be lucky to ever own one again as good. A special dog to different men is a different dog ive seen and owned some good dogs but only ever seen a handfull of special dogs the dogs that will stop and do the job no matter how hard it becomes the ones with the extra gear. The drive of a catterpillar d8 makin a hard situation look easy and taking little grief for doing a job text book style the men who know the job will undertand what im on about those that dont will mock.Just remember one tihg lads put the best to the best and you may just one day get that special one best of luck

 

 

totaly agree with you bud

 

atb jackard

[DOC MARTIN 17]

lads the point of why breed out of something that isnt special there is lads all over the country that will NEVER EVER OWN a special one and if you do you will be lucky to ever own one again as good. A special dog to different men is a different dog ive seen and owned some good dogs but only ever seen a handfull of special dogs the dogs that will stop and do the job no matter how hard it becomes the ones with the extra gear. The drive of a catterpillar d8 makin a hard situation look easy and taking little grief for doing a job text book style the men who know the job will undertand what im on about those that dont will mock.Just remember one tihg lads put the best to the best and you may just one day get that special one best of luck

personally without starting an argument fmwtc anything thats nothing special isnt worth feeding never mind breeding from,it wouldnt be too bad if the breeders of'nothing special' dogs ran on the litter and filtered out the shit pups from the more promising stuff but usually they all end up on the market,its back to ££ signs.certain people will breed from the shit whats put on the market because it LOOKS GOOD but is that why theres so much rubbish about? im only speaking on behalf of myself and lads ive dug with over the years and still dig with today.regards dm.

[the_stig 6,614]

Just a simple question.did anyone on here ever dig the dog as an adult,not a puppy.and if so how did they rate him?maybe he was just a good producer,how many times has it been said don t breed of the good dog,breed off the dog that produced him?obviousely he threw workers but was he anything special himself?

like what has already been said sparticus was nothing special but did throw excellent pups if he was that good they wouldnt of partd with him to ken

was he fully tested at 9 months ?

[the_stig 6,614]

lads the point of why breed out of something that isnt special there is lads all over the country that will NEVER EVER OWN a special one and if you do you will be lucky to ever own one again as good. A special dog to different men is a different dog ive seen and owned some good dogs but only ever seen a handfull of special dogs the dogs that will stop and do the job no matter how hard it becomes the ones with the extra gear. The drive of a catterpillar d8 makin a hard situation look easy and taking little grief for doing a job text book style the men who know the job will undertand what im on about those that dont will mock.Just remember one tihg lads put the best to the best and you may just one day get that special one best of luck

personally without starting an argument fmwtc anything thats nothing special isnt worth feeding never mind breeding from,it wouldnt be too bad if the breeders of'nothing special' dogs ran on the litter and filtered out the shit pups from the more promising stuff but usually they all end up on the market,its back to ££ signs.certain people will breed from the shit whats put on the market because it LOOKS GOOD but is that why theres so much rubbish about? im only speaking on behalf of myself and lads ive dug with over the years and still dig with today.regards dm.

altough sparticus was`nt an outstanding worker and by todays standards he would be classed as a worker --- he came from a long line of proven stock . . which really begs another question is a dog not worth using if its not proven when its from a long line of working stock .

[Hagen 11]

he came from a long line of proven stock . . which really begs another question is a dog not worth using if its not proven when its from a long line of working stock .

 

Definitely it can be worth!

I'm new in Patterdales, but I know a lot APBT-history. A bad worker (from a proven stock) can be a good producer, and a good worker can be a bad producer. If you only breed best to best you will not be satisfied. The line and the producing ability is more important.

Edited January 31, 2010 by Hagen