Gundogs and Lurchers

[Dave C 63]

Hunting them all together is a fun way of bushing but you never get big numbers, they do all find there place/job in the pack and it seems to all work out. The GWP will point if no other dogs about but that is not his main job, he will mainly hit cover with the others and the GWP Lurcher is a master of taking rabbits out of there seats.

 

The best offective way of catching rabbits is one gundog bushing and a fast lurcher catching, then you can get some canny numbers.

 

Tess a master of finding pointing and flushing them

 

Paddy the catch dog

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Like i say having all the dogs out is great but we find this the more effective hunting.

 

Dave.

[rickyspringer 15]

very sucessful mooch Dave,

 

Keep at it, thats a proper days sport.

[Bigshrimp 5]

Thanks so much for the explanation Dave!

 

Does it take a bit of work to get the running dog to stand back and let the bushing dog find and point/flush the rabbit?? As I think a smart dog would figure out that every time the scruffy fellow stands still there's got to be a rabbit under his nose

 

Excellent work there....really enjoying your pictures and description of your days sport.

[Dave C 63]

Bigshrimp, he has worked alot with Gundogs and Terriers, so he knows to wait and let them do the hard work in cover, plus he dosnt have much of a coat so he is not a lover of working the cover himself unless he can make a quick grab, what he did learn at an early age is to watch and listen to the other dogs, so he generaly guesses where the bunny will bolt from and he positions himself there.

 

Do you get much of this type of hunting in Canada.

 

Dave.

[Bigshrimp 5]

I've never seen a lurcher work and it is not very popular at all over here (CoyoteHunter from this forum does use lurchers here....but he's an import from the UK ).

 

Most people here use scent hounds (to trail rabbits, raccoon, deer, bear, etc....anything with fur). If it's rabbits you're after you can be sure there will be a beagle in the bush.....or just a bunch of guys kicking the bush if they don't have a dog. Instead of the lurcher we use a shotgun (as I'm sure many of you over there use instead of a lurcher too).

 

I am very intrigued by this type of hunting and think it would be VERY exciting to participate in. Unfortunately, we are not allowed to lamp so a good portion of the lurchers work would not fall under our law ....only daytime work.

 

Also, I don't think (but would need someone to confirm) we have as many rabbits over here. We have a fair share but not to the pest status they are in the UK.

 

 

Very generally; if it has fur we will use a scent hound and if it has feathers we will use a pointing dog or a lab. But of course you will find many people not falling within this generalisation.

[Bigshrimp 5]

BTW Dave, your avatar looks like a Blue Lacey pretty pissed off at a coon....did you hunt on this end of the pond in the past??

[Dave C 63]

I wish bigshrimp, i can not upload any of my pics to my avatar for some reason and thats the only pic i can.

I got it from another USA forum i get on,(I do love there pointing dogs).

 

ATB

Dave.

[poacherman 353]

heres a pic of my two. work them together all the time. but a take my spaniel on beats and shooting and my lurcher does its lamping aswell. my lurcher wouldnt be half the dog it is the now if it wasnt for the spaniel. its flushed many a rabbits out for her. a take the spaniel ferreting aswell as the lurcher isnt realy marking the holes yet. a man asked me the other week there if my spaniel is still steady as a have with the lurcher all the time. ave had the odd time my spaniel has ran in but he was just over excited but he knew he had done wrong. the perfect bushing team is a lurcher and a spaniel. jay thats a lovely pack uve got there. love the look of your wee sprocker

 

atb poacherman

[whin 463]

worked all sorts of dogs with lurchers my ols mate used to work his cocokers with my two lurchers had great sport and all sorts of qaurry great fun early morning ,used to realy enjoybit but we had 3 500 of land to play with and full of rabbits odd hare pre ban and fox and pheasants odd mink stoat great sport probaly some of the best hunting days i had

[poacher3161 1,766]

heres a pic of my two. work them together all the time. but a take my spaniel on beats and shooting and my lurcher does its lamping aswell. my lurcher wouldnt be half the dog it is the now if it wasnt for the spaniel. its flushed many a rabbits out for her. a take the spaniel ferreting aswell as the lurcher isnt realy marking the holes yet. a man asked me the other week there if my spaniel is still steady as a have with the lurcher all the time. ave had the odd time my spaniel has ran in but he was just over excited but he knew he had done wrong. the perfect bushing team is a lurcher and a spaniel. jay thats a lovely pack uve got there. love the look of your wee sprocker

 

atb poacherman

Two cracking looking dogs their bud I have worked a lurcher springer combination for genral mooching about for the last 25 years and can highly recomend it i know lads prefer the terrier lurcher combo but in badger country that can be a real head ache as i once found out atvb dell

[Mickey Finn 3,016]

Dave C, They say you can't recieve any messages. What did you do wrong.

[Dave C 63]

Hi Mickey, i dont think i have done anything (this time)

I have had a few PM's over the last few days, so not sure mate.

 

Dave.

[Mickey Finn 3,016]

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Oh well, Here it is. Edited for general consumption, and interest I hope.

 

How versatile would a 3/4 grey-1/4 collie be. I know your lurcher ( a fine looking animal) is part saluki. But I thought their abilities might be close enough for discussion. For instance would you be able to expect one to remain quiet in the blind while hunting over decoys in the field? It could be a few hours. Would one learn to mark falling birds. Or are they, more keyed to movement?

 

Would teaching one to use it's nose with "hot dog trails" and things of that nature be effective?

 

I'm ready for a pup, and convinced I'd like to try a lurcher. Looking forward to new hunting styles too. But was wondering how well one would fit in with the things I do now.

 

Any comments welcome.

[Dave C 63]

Sorry Mickey my messemger box was full

 

The 3/4 Grey, 1/4 Collie is a very popular cross over here and possibly the most versatile of lurchers, but others have more experience than me, i wont bog down this section with to much lurcher talk so will PM you mate.

 

Dave.

[paddyeuro 0]

thanks for the reply lads,what if the parents dont work and havnt been trained to work and are just pets but are pure bred springers,will it be hard to get their pups to hunt cover