Terrier turned on wifes chooks

[Tyla 3,179]

Right, my terrier has always been sound around the hens but today he just turned round and killed one. I was out ferreting and got a tearful call from my wife. These hens are her pets and she was absolutely gutted and furious, he got the shit kicked out of him and chucked in the pen. Im keen to nip this in the bud, the hens are loose in the garden and have never had trouble from any of the dogs til today. He has never been trustworthy round the ferrets but this last week he has changed, had a big row with a lab while on a walk, went after the cat when we were out of the room and now killed a hen. Hes always been headstrong but seems to be getting more and more feisty.

 

My missus is very understanding about the dogs and my hunting and even enjoys a trip out every now and again, I dont want this to cause more shit than it has already. I'll get her another couple of hens tomorrow but need a solution in the long term. Any ideas?

[Guest busterdog]

These things will happen, if he's of a working age then give him the work that he neads and that might setle him down or failing that send him down here.

[waidmann 105]

re break him to the chickens or keep him away from them bud. it just takes a wrong "cluck" if they are not sound with stock and they will have them. better it happend to yours than while ratting on a farm.

the best of luck bud.

[Tyla 3,179]

Hes nearly two and gets plenty of work, really i need to re break him to the hens. I cant have a dog thats not sound round stock, mine or anyone elses. He is a hard headed little bugger and physical punishment dosent work well on him. Im not keen on keeping him kennelled all the time as it makes him much more over excited and hard to manage when hes let out, its would also mess with the routine of the rest of the dogs.

 

What are the options for re breaking him, should i consider a shock collar? Ive never used one and never liked the idea but several people have suggested it. Any advice or opinions appreiciated?

[pink head 28]

keep him and the hens separate

[waidmann 105]

Hes nearly two and gets plenty of work, really i need to re break him to the hens. I cant have a dog thats not sound round stock, mine or anyone elses. He is a hard headed little bugger and physical punishment dosent work well on him. Im not keen on keeping him kennelled all the time as it makes him much more over excited and hard to manage when hes let out, its would also mess with the routine of the rest of the dogs.

 

What are the options for re breaking him, should i consider a shock collar? Ive never used one and never liked the idea but several people have suggested it. Any advice or opinions appreiciated?

 

 

how did you break him to stock to begin with? he should just need his memory refreshing.

if you can lend a collar or need one for other dogs/training then you could give it a go( make sure he gets used to the collar being on first or he will just not do it when its on always give a command first then the reminder with the collar)

he may just get more wound up because of the shock. i think most use a bit of hazel or willow.

[johnny 2 367]

Right, my terrier has always been sound around the hens but today he just turned round and killed one. I was out ferreting and got a tearful call from my wife. These hens are her pets and she was absolutely gutted and furious, he got the shit kicked out of him and chucked in the pen. Im keen to nip this in the bud, the hens are loose in the garden and have never had trouble from any of the dogs til today. He has never been trustworthy round the ferrets but this last week he has changed, had a big row with a lab while on a walk, went after the cat when we were out of the room and now killed a hen. Hes always been headstrong but seems to be getting more and more feisty.

 

My missus is very understanding about the dogs and my hunting and even enjoys a trip out every now and again, I dont want this to cause more shit than it has already. I'll get her another couple of hens tomorrow but need a solution in the long term. Any ideas?

Unless you catch him in the act of nailing a chuck then kicking the shit out of him will do little good.Work,work and more work good luck

[Tyla 3,179]

Hes nearly two and gets plenty of work, really i need to re break him to the hens. I cant have a dog thats not sound round stock, mine or anyone elses. He is a hard headed little bugger and physical punishment dosent work well on him. Im not keen on keeping him kennelled all the time as it makes him much more over excited and hard to manage when hes let out, its would also mess with the routine of the rest of the dogs.

 

What are the options for re breaking him, should i consider a shock collar? Ive never used one and never liked the idea but several people have suggested it. Any advice or opinions appreiciated?

 

 

how did you break him to stock to begin with? he should just need his memory refreshing.

if you can lend a collar or need one for other dogs/training then you could give it a go( make sure he gets used to the collar being on first or he will just not do it when its on always give a command first then the reminder with the collar)

he may just get more wound up because of the shock. i think most use a bit of hazel or willow.

 

He broke easily as a puppy, a sharp no and snap the lead and he never took any notice of them til today. I wanted to tie the dead hen to him as i've seen that work before but they are Amy's pets and she wasnt keen on the idea so it was buried. Im going to see how he reacts to them tomorrow and decide from where to go from there

[TAZ BOY 4]

put chickens in pen 4 few days let dog near it see how he acts if he attacts pen then punish im until he gets message or fence aroung them so he cant get to them good luck with it

[higgins 75]

a terrier is a killer,full stop.Whatvever you do after he has killed won't make a difference.IT's better to channel his instincts in the right direction or get rid of him to someone who understands this,i don't care what people say,i have never known a a method of undoing a terrier to not kill,especially terriers that have killed are always killers,it's their instinct,the bottom line is you will always have to watch them,

Higgins

[waidmann 105]

is the basic obiedience ok? is he normally ok with other dogs? he may just be "coming of age" in which case this could just be the start of it. keep an eye on him and ley nothing slip, sit means sit and if not then pressure.

feel free to pm me if i can help bud.

 

yis

michael

[Tyla 3,179]

Right, my terrier has always been sound around the hens but today he just turned round and killed one. I was out ferreting and got a tearful call from my wife. These hens are her pets and she was absolutely gutted and furious, he got the shit kicked out of him and chucked in the pen. Im keen to nip this in the bud, the hens are loose in the garden and have never had trouble from any of the dogs til today. He has never been trustworthy round the ferrets but this last week he has changed, had a big row with a lab while on a walk, went after the cat when we were out of the room and now killed a hen. Hes always been headstrong but seems to be getting more and more feisty.

 

My missus is very understanding about the dogs and my hunting and even enjoys a trip out every now and again, I dont want this to cause more shit than it has already. I'll get her another couple of hens tomorrow but need a solution in the long term. Any ideas?

Unless you catch him in the act of nailing a chuck then kicking the shit out of him will do little good.Work,work and more work good luck

 

I agree, he got beat while caught in the act and trying to stop him ragging it. I wasnt there but by the sound of it he didnt let go easily and thats when he got punished.

 

All my dogs kill things regularly, thats what they're for but I have to be able to control what they kill. If i worked on the principle that they are killers then how could i trust the lurchers round sheep etc?

 

His basic training is good, recall, sit, stay, retrieve etc and works to hand signals while bushing. I wonder if he is just coming of age and pushing his boundaries. I am going to do alot of one on one training with him the next few days to improve our connection then see if we can do something about the chicken situation.

[skycat 6,173]

One of mine, the black bitch, needs to kill stuff regularly or she'll go for anything: she just goes stir crazy: like has already been said: they're bred to kill and they need that fix to stay on the straight and narrow: I don't care how highly you train certain terriers, their breeding and instinct will always come to the fore and override the training sooner or later. OK so some less 'kill minded' terriers aren't like that, but the stuff that has been bred to kill its game really need to be killing to stay right in the head.

[DABCHICK 58]

a terrier is a killer,full stop.Whatvever you do after he has killed won't make a difference.IT's better to channel his instincts in the right direction or get rid of him to someone who understands this,i don't care what people say,i have never known a a method of undoing a terrier to not kill,especially terriers that have killed are always killers,it's their instinct,the bottom line is you will always have to watch them,

Higgins

MUST SAY AGREE WITH HIGGINS WE HAVE HENS AND TWO OF MINE ARE KILLERS FOR HENS GIVE UP PUNISHMENT ITS A PAIN JUST I HAVE TO WATCH AND REMEMBER WHEN THERE OUT FORGOT BIT BACK 2 DEAD AND NEARLY OTHER THREE TERRIERS JOINING IN REGARDS DABBER

Edited January 18, 2010 by DABCHICK