chartpolski 23,467 Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 longdogs for hares e.g saluki grey and lurchers for lamping, ferreting,ect A saluki/grey is a lurcher.. the majority of lurchers have longdog in them, thats what forms a lurcher.... You bring a saluki to run hares around this area (preban of course) and a good hare lurcher would beast it... A Saluki x Greyhound is a "Longdog"; any sighthound x sighthound is a "Longdog", although they are commonly refered to as "Lurchers". Cheers. Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 longdogs for hares e.g saluki grey and lurchers for lamping, ferreting,ect A saluki/grey is a lurcher.. the majority of lurchers have longdog in them, thats what forms a lurcher.... You bring a saluki to run hares around this area (preban of course) and a good hare lurcher would beast it... the majority of lurchers have longdog in them, Dont agree Runforyourlife.The Longdog is Two sighthound crosses more often deer x grey hens longdog.Lurcher is sighthound most times grey with any other breed. Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 longdogs for hares e.g saluki grey and lurchers for lamping, ferreting,ect A saluki/grey is a lurcher.. the majority of lurchers have longdog in them, thats what forms a lurcher.... You bring a saluki to run hares around this area (preban of course) and a good hare lurcher would beast it... A Saluki x Greyhound is a "Longdog"; any sighthound x sighthound is a "Longdog", although they are commonly refered to as "Lurchers". Cheers. lol, that is what i said, just differently... lurchers are made by longdogs or sighthounds... Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,467 Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 longdogs for hares e.g saluki grey and lurchers for lamping, ferreting,ect A saluki/grey is a lurcher.. the majority of lurchers have longdog in them, thats what forms a lurcher.... You bring a saluki to run hares around this area (preban of course) and a good hare lurcher would beast it... A Saluki x Greyhound is a "Longdog"; any sighthound x sighthound is a "Longdog", although they are commonly refered to as "Lurchers". Cheers. lol, that is what i said, just differently... lurchers are made by longdogs or sighthounds... You say "The majority of Lurchers have Longdog in them"......How can a dog be a Lurcher if it hasn't got Longdog in it ? Cheers. Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 longdogs for hares e.g saluki grey and lurchers for lamping, ferreting,ect A saluki/grey is a lurcher.. the majority of lurchers have longdog in them, thats what forms a lurcher.... You bring a saluki to run hares around this area (preban of course) and a good hare lurcher would beast it... A Saluki x Greyhound is a "Longdog"; any sighthound x sighthound is a "Longdog", although they are commonly refered to as "Lurchers". Cheers. lol, that is what i said, just differently... lurchers are made by longdogs or sighthounds... You say "The majority of Lurchers have Longdog in them"......How can a dog be a Lurcher if it hasn't got Longdog in it ? Cheers. Yep, my mistake, chartpolski... sorry pal but i think you knew what i mean, should have worded it better... cheers Quote Link to post
stroller 341 Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Not wishing to be contentious but if line breeding was the way forward and all the best dogs are always line bred for genrations. Why then do we cross breed to produce long dogs or lurchers? why not just stick to coursing greys, salukis, pharoh sloughis or whippet all of which can and are more than capabe of doing a good job? After all they have been line bred 100s of generations i have to say greatness isnt just about line breding it has a lot to do with nurture and that bit indfineable something else. i dont agree with deer coursing and i was never that fussed about hares either so maybe that makes me an unusal lurcher owner or maybe its all just horses for courses Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Because we're not just talking about pure line breeding..... There are many good lines in long dogs, especially in ireland where coursing is still aloud.(and big money is fetched for offsprings of these anaimals) Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,467 Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 longdogs for hares e.g saluki grey and lurchers for lamping, ferreting,ect A saluki/grey is a lurcher.. the majority of lurchers have longdog in them, thats what forms a lurcher.... You bring a saluki to run hares around this area (preban of course) and a good hare lurcher would beast it... A Saluki x Greyhound is a "Longdog"; any sighthound x sighthound is a "Longdog", although they are commonly refered to as "Lurchers". Cheers. lol, that is what i said, just differently... lurchers are made by longdogs or sighthounds... You say "The majority of Lurchers have Longdog in them"......How can a dog be a Lurcher if it hasn't got Longdog in it ? Cheers. Yep, my mistake, chartpolski... sorry pal but i think you knew what i mean, should have worded it better... cheers LOL ! No worries, mate ! I haven't had my second coffee yet, still in grumpy old man mode ! Cheers. Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,467 Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 This is a good topic and shouldn't drift off into the rights or wrongs of "line breeding" or "in breeding". In response to the origional question; I have one of each; a Lurcher, (Beddy/Grey x Deer/Grey-Whipppet/Grey), 4 1/2 y.o. And a Longdog, (DeerxGrey), 6 month old. They will both be used for the same jobs, though I expect each to be better than the other at certain aspects of the job! I can't say which is better, Lurcher or Longdog, it depends on what you need them for, hopefully with one of each, the job will be sorted ! Cheers. Quote Link to post
dirty twister 31 Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 daschunds are long dogs as well Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 daschunds are long dogs as well lol, very good... Quote Link to post
cumbrian-whippet 1 Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Im going to be getting a new lurcher as soon as something suitable comes along, and my question is this: In terms of trainability, living with it, hunting ability etc. which one of these would people choose: colliexgreyhound-salukixwhippet colliexgreyhound (1st cross or 3/4 grey) colliexwhippet (1st cross or 3/4 whippet) These are the dogs i am considering and i think some collie blood is a definate in my final choice. The land i work at the moment is a mix of small flat fields, larger hilly fields, fields that could almost be described as moor land and everything between. I have a pure whippet at the moment and although she has pace to burn she lacks a bit of stamina and possibly a bit of common sense! Im after a dog between 22-24" as i think on the land i work and the quarry (only rabbits) a smaller lurcher would be the best choice. Also the dog will be used for lamping mainly but also ferreting (when i get hold of some new ones) and general mooching. Thanks Adam Sorry Adam not being funny, but i dont see how you can answer this question, when you only asked all the above in DEcember pal.... After reading the difference between a longdog and sighthound i stand corrected, i asumed a longdog was another term for a pure bread sighthound which i now know is not the case. I have as my post in december says got a whippet and now have a bull x grey. He wouldn't have been my first choice but after seeing him work i took him on. To answer your other question i find both dogs just as good as each other but with one or the other being better in certain situations eg. whippet better at shorter sprints on smaller fields, the lurcher being better on longer runs on more uneven ground. Sorry for the confusion, you live and learn as they say Quote Link to post
riohog 5,701 Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 theve all got there place . kept both .althpough these days .its pure sighthounds and lurchers .... works for me !! Quote Link to post
dai dogs 1,412 Posted January 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 (edited) going back a few years i owned 2 lurchers first cross greyhound collie. also 2 sighthounds first cross saluki greyhounds. the sighthounds were excellent on the big fields didnt miss a lot and made the lurchers look second class. not a lot of sense about them thou. the lurchers were very good at daytime rabbits and lamping. i took one of each out one night on very hard ground around the brecon beacons area. the sighthound couldnt cope with the terrain unlike the lurcher. my preference is the lurcher. Edited January 16, 2010 by dai dogs Quote Link to post
kayteetess 15 Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 daschunds are long dogs as well Quote Link to post
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