felltool 5 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 (edited) Hi folks I am looking for some advice on the landrover defender 110 td5 as i am looking to buy one but the problem is i have went through 4 4x4s this year, form 2 pajeros that wernt that bad apart form being guttsy but i didnt really like automatics, had l200 warrior it blew up on me conrod through the bottom of the engine,also had a disco and that didnt last to long tho it was a banger when i got it, i want somthing that will last, heard the hiluxs have got good engines but are weak at the back end so been looking at the defender can anyone give me some info on them and do they last the course and what like are they for long distance driving and off road. do the defenders ever have common engine faults or have any major problems. dont want to be buying anymore crap, need somthin strong for long distance and off road. Edited January 13, 2010 by felltool Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDFrain 1 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 hi mate, two of my pals have 110's one is a 200tdi 1990ish and the other is a td5, one thing noticable is that the 200tdi pulls much better up hill etc not to sure why this considering the engine age. I also have a 300tdi def 90. in my opinion the 200 and 300tdi engines seem to be very reliable and also very easy to work on, also there is very little in the way of electrics on the so less things to go wrong. One main thing to look over when buying a landrover is to check check and check the chassis, for rot. May be worth trying to buy a landie with a galvanised chassis once you have that then you will have the motor for life. regarding long distance travel they are not the most comfortable but you can improve the leg room with extended seat rails or rear bulk head removal. not to expensive to sort out. Offroad you wont get much better with the right tyres on. JDF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felltool 5 Posted January 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 On 13/01/2010 at 20:05, JDFrain said: hi mate, two of my pals have 110's one is a 200tdi 1990ish and the other is a td5, one thing noticable is that the 200tdi pulls much better up hill etc not to sure why this considering the engine age. I also have a 300tdi def 90. in my opinion the 200 and 300tdi engines seem to be very reliable and also very easy to work on, also there is very little in the way of electrics on the so less things to go wrong. One main thing to look over when buying a landrover is to check check and check the chassis, for rot. May be worth trying to buy a landie with a galvanised chassis once you have that then you will have the motor for life. regarding long distance travel they are not the most comfortable but you can improve the leg room with extended seat rails or rear bulk head removal. not to expensive to sort out. Offroad you wont get much better with the right tyres on. JDF Hi mate se your pal that has the td5 how does he find it, has he had any problems with that, what year is it if you dont mind me asking Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woz 260 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 the 200 and 300 tdi can feel that bit faster and also they feel like they a working as a td5 feels more all rev and no go..if you put a tdi next to a td5 the td5 is quicker..the td5 isnt as good on fuel and will cost more to tune if you want more power.the td5 engine when in development was tuned to 350 bhp for the reliability trials.the tdi engines can easily and cheaply be got upto 150 bhp...the 300 tdi and td5 share the same r380 gear box and apart from some syncro trouble it isnt a bad gear box..i personaly prefer a 300 tdi BUT finding a good one these days is begining to be hard...most td5's after 2000 are relitively trouble free and are now getting affordable to the mass's..when buying a landy look at the foot well's for rust also under the windscreen if there's rust/rot there walk away the rest of the truck will be a bag of shite.with the chassis have a look at the inside of the rear cross member for rust,again if the member has been replaced walk away it will be a bag of shite.the front bulk head out riggers are another favourite for the start of rust if these have been patched/replaced dont bother looking at the rest of the truck..i have said this because landrover chassis's always rot from the inside out and the place's i have said to look at are always were it starts.. make sure the engine starts well and evenly and pulls ok.. no rot gear box hasnt got any nasty noise's and crunch's door bottoms aint rotten steering feels tight and the truck dosnt follow the camber on the road.you'll know if the bush's are tierd if it does wander and feel un settled.. cheers woz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDFrain 1 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 well said woz think you answered all the questions there. one other thing is though landies can become very addictive and you can easily spend a small fortune on them adding extras Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the eyes dont lie Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 wee run the 110 4 door pick up td5 they like a drink like all 4x4 very cold inside .but they go any where great for hunting .done 18000 miles in a year and had no probs with it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woz 260 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 (edited) On 13/01/2010 at 21:40, the eyes dont lie said: wee run the 110 4 door pick up td5 they like a drink like all 4x4 very cold inside .but they go any where great for hunting .done 18000 miles in a year and had no probs with it i built this last year for my mrs..30 mpg..150bhp... Edited January 13, 2010 by woz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felltool 5 Posted January 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 cheers for the coments lads, just need to make sure i dont buy lemon now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felltool 5 Posted January 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 thats a nice machine woz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the eyes dont lie Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 On 13/01/2010 at 22:03, felltool said: cheers for the coments lads, just need to make sure i dont buy lemon now that market at blockairn .ive seen ex scottish power go through with the winch and off roaders on them . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felltool 5 Posted January 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 On 13/01/2010 at 22:12, the eyes dont lie said: On 13/01/2010 at 22:03, felltool said: cheers for the coments lads, just need to make sure i dont buy lemon now that market at blockairn .ive seen ex scottish power go through with the winch and off roaders on them . i know the one mate might give it try Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bert69 5 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 if your going to do motorway miles then get a jap pick up, ford ranger or toyota hilux, your spine will thank you for it, so will your bank balance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woz 260 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 (edited) On 14/01/2010 at 00:29, bert69 said: if your going to do motorway miles then get a jap pick up, ford ranger or toyota hilux, your spine will thank you for it, so will your bank balance thats is probably the most untrue comment on 4x4's i have ever heard...most of the rice burning crap is STILL on bloody cart (leaf) springs.please justify your comments on the toyota hilux???which is on cart springs and use's a loose copy of a 1950's series 1 gear box so does the shitty L200.. a trooper uses morris minor suspension.ford ranger mmmmm the worlds greediest fuel guzzling piece of poo on the road i would say field but the second they hit the brown stuff they need towing by a landrover..the differance between and LR 90 and 110 on the road is huge as a 110 is very comfortable and alot less jolty.landrover have used coil springs on there work vehicles sinse the early 's and there luxury stuff sinse the 70's.we have a 05 plate shogun lwb that has only ever been used as a tow vehicle it keeps popping the drive shaft's out of the rear dif because its a piss poor design,the air con hasnt worked sinse it was 18 months old because the adjuster for the belt is in such a stupid place the bolts have rotted and seized so bad it cant be adjusted.the only reason its still on the yard is that we wouldnt sell it because of the problems it has and we dont want it coming back for all the warrenty work we would have to do as dealers,it is only fit to be permanently conected to the ifor trailer and used to tow scrap.if you look at the second pic earlier in this thread the piece of poo is hidden away in the corner connected to the trailer.the tow bar/ball is bent because it has a stupid design and is made out of toffee.. have you priced jap parts (if you can get them)compared to LR?? landrover definetly have there failings but with this considered they will still easily blow all of the jap stuff into the weeds...jap stuff is cheaper to buy for a reason..its shite!!!!! rant over,god i feel better for that Edited January 14, 2010 by woz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felltool 5 Posted January 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 On 14/01/2010 at 01:09, woz said: On 14/01/2010 at 00:29, bert69 said: if your going to do motorway miles then get a jap pick up, ford ranger or toyota hilux, your spine will thank you for it, so will your bank balance thats is probably the most untrue comment on 4x4's i have ever heard...most of the rice burning crap is STILL on bloody cart (leaf) springs.please justify your comments on the toyota hilux???which is on cart springs and use's a loose copy of a 1950's series 1 gear box so does the shitty L200.. a trooper uses morris minor suspension.ford ranger mmmmm the worlds greediest fuel guzzling piece of poo on the road i would say field but the second they hit the brown stuff they need towing by a landrover..the differance between and LR 90 and 110 on the road is huge as a 110 is very comfortable and alot less jolty.landrover have used coil springs on there work vehicles sinse the early 's and there luxury stuff sinse the 70's.we have a 05 plate shogun lwb that has only ever been used as a tow vehicle it keeps popping the drive shaft's out of the rear dif because its a piss poor design,the air con hasnt worked sinse it was 18 months old because the adjuster for the belt is in such a stupid place the bolts have rotted and seized so bad it cant be adjusted.the only reason its still on the yard is that we wouldnt sell it because of the problems it has and we dont want it coming back for all the warrenty work we would have to do as dealers,it is only fit to be permanently conected to the ifor trailer and used to tow scrap.if you look at the second pic earlier in this thread the piece of poo is hidden away in the corner connected to the trailer.the tow bar/ball is bent because it has a stupid design and is made out of toffee.. have you priced jap parts (if you can get them)compared to LR?? landrover definetly have there failings but with this considered they will still easily blow all of the jap stuff into the weeds...jap stuff is cheaper to buy for a reason..its shite!!!!! rant over,god i feel better for that your right their woz the jap stuff is pure shite i wont be going near any of it again in hurry utter crap Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bert69 5 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 youre talking rubbish mate and no im not going to start spouting about jeremy clarkson and his old hilux that started after getting dunked in the sea. I have a ford ranger and find it very comfortable on road, good on fuel (if you get more than 25 to the gallon from any landrover then you are a liar) and perfectly competent off road for what the vast majority will use them for, granted it isn't as good off road as a defender but as the chap says if he is going to do long journeys then i could think of no worse a vehicle to be contemplating that in than a defender. I won't just slag landrovers because i like them and if i didnt do alot of road miles and had a couple of socket sets gathering dust then i would have one but for a comprimise work and play vehicle then the ranger and the hilux take alot of beating. please justify your comments on the ranger being a gas guzzler, how? Mine is a 3 litre tdci and i am yet to return a consumption figure of less than 30 to the gallon. Shoguns are poo, this is correct, as are all mitsubishis for that matter. To say the hilux has a gearbox looosely based on a series 1 is utter claptrap and about as appropriate as saying that the boeing 747 is loosely based on the spitfire in that they both fly! defenders will always have their die hard fans but i think they seriously lag behind in reliability, fuel consumption, comfort, refinement and power Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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