Guest GB HUNTER Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 There's always a risk with a new born, If i was you i would give dry food, as the dog is not going to wash its paws properly and with e coli and salmnella ect. I cut the meat off the rabbit then add what ever, the dog does not need the bones . If you cut the meet off and put it in the bowl it should not go any were. Quote Link to post
Guest Jane Russell Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 The theory is that raw bone doesn't splinter but cooked does so raw chicken is ok. Jane Quote Link to post
Vermin Dropper 2 Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 I've been having a look at moving to this kind of feeding for a wee while and I can see the relation to the natural canine diet in the wild. I have two wee questions I'd like to ask:1) Don't the chicken bones splinter badly and risk damaging the dogs throat? 2) If feeding whole rabbits, does this not encourage the dogs to fcuk off with their catch and eat it whilst out hunting? 1) they shouldn't as long as fed raw, I don't know anyone who has had any problems, 2) It may do, thats the only reason I feed rabbits gutted and skinned with the head off (leave all the organs/offal in though) how do you prepare the mackeral mate? you don't need to, just chuck em in, There's always a risk with a new born, If i was you i would give dry food, as the dog is not going to wash its paws properly and with e coli and salmnella ect. I cut the meat off the rabbit then add what ever, the dog does not need the bones . If you cut the meet off and put it in the bowl it should not go any were. How old are you????? stop talking utter bollocks! Quote Link to post
spike 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 There's always a risk with a new born, If i was you i would give dry food, as the dog is not going to wash its paws properly and with e coli and salmnella ect. I cut the meat off the rabbit then add what ever, the dog does not need the bones . If you cut the meet off and put it in the bowl it should not go any were. How old are you????? stop talking utter bollocks! I take it there's no risk then mate? Or are you referring to the dogs not needing the bones? Quote Link to post
Vermin Dropper 2 Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 (edited) C/G, do you feed your dogs outside? I wondered as my dog lives indoors, so is there an issue of contamination as the dog will use his paws to gain purchase when ripping at the food & possibly contaminate floor surfaces. We have a baby due soon so could this be an issue? I (rather My other half) had a baby last december, and I got another pup in Jan', and to date we have had no problems (contamination wise) what so ever, I feed the dogs either outside or on the kitchen floor and a, we should all be following a decent hygene routine, B, the baby would never be allowed th crawl about on the kitchen floor and c, the baby shouldn't be left to come in contact with the dogs, Edited September 28, 2006 by Vermin Dropper Quote Link to post
spike 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 That was what I thought, thanks for confirming it though mate Cheers Quote Link to post
Vermin Dropper 2 Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 (edited) There's always a risk with a new born, If i was you i would give dry food, as the dog is not going to wash its paws properly and with e coli and salmnella ect. I cut the meat off the rabbit then add what ever, the dog does not need the bones . If you cut the meet off and put it in the bowl it should not go any were. How old are you????? stop talking utter bollocks! I take it there's no risk then mate? Or are you referring to the dogs not needing the bones? The bones predominantly, but if you look at my previous post I already said we should follow a good hygene routine anyway, Especially with a new baby regardless of dogs. (edited to say).... Spike, sorry for sounding so short in this reply mate, thought i was replying to GB Hunter at first, Edited September 28, 2006 by Vermin Dropper Quote Link to post
spike 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 No worries mate; agree about the hygiene routine anyway - just had the odd doubt about "moving" possible contamination out of the feeding area. Will never leave dog alone with the baby. Oh, baby in Dec & new pup i Jan brave man - talk about having your hands full Quote Link to post
Vermin Dropper 2 Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 No worries mate; agree about the hygiene routine anyway - just had the odd doubt about "moving" possible contamination out of the feeding area. Will never leave dog alone with the baby. Oh, baby in Dec & new pup i Jan brave man - talk about having your hands full I bought a second house at auction to renovate, the same week as we had the baby too, I must be a propper glutton for it, wouldn't change a thing now though. Quote Link to post
Guest GB HUNTER Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 bunch of muppets! you talk out your ass bla bla bla Quote Link to post
Rainmaker 7 Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Sorry for the late re-entry into this thread, been busy. First, dogs DO need bones for proper health. This has been established a dozen times over on here in the last few weeks. Mackerel, just chuck them in - no prep required (as VD said). RAW chicken is only as likely to hurt or kill your dog as is kibble - i.e. by freak accident. Actually its fair to say it is LESS likely, as a large portion needs chewing into mouthsized pieces, whereas kibble gets 'hoovered' up with associated choking risks. As for contamination risks, it's a case of use your brain as with most things relating to animals and babies - and especially both together. E-coli et al. are in the environment anyway, your dog walks on his paws and then comes into the house and is just as likely to pick up germs outside the home and walk them on your floor, as he is to get them from properly stored meat. Basically I'm saying it's not a wild risk associated only with raw food, that is an over-exaggeration. Good hygeine is a must no matter what. Feeding a raw diet does not overly complicate things. I feed outside, or in the dogs crate 99% of the time. No matter where a dog eats, I bleach my floors daily (nothing to do with raw food) and do wipe down the crates with Bugs Away. I use that particular brand because it's food safe (no need to rinse or let it dry, as with bleach) and therefore the dog can come into contact with it without worry. It kills 99.99% of ALL germs (including e-coli and MRSA) within a minute. Again, it takes ten seconds to throw a few sprays down and isn't NECESSARY. I just like to follow good hygeine all around the home. Not that I'm paranoid about these things (you should see some of the stuff that comes through my house!), but it does help. My mrs has three young kids, and in the last three/four years not once have we had a problem. Allow common sense to prevail and everyone's happy. Quote Link to post
spike 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Thanks Rainmaker Should the transition to raw from dry be graduated to avoid problems such as diaorrhea (sp?) (have read that constipation can also be a problem at first) as you would if changing between "regular" foods? The way he has gone at it I think he'll ignore the dry anyway Have tried him with some beef last night & turkey leg this morning, at the moment I have to hold it for him to tear it otherwise he just sniffs & licks at it on the floor It'll all fall into place I expect Quote Link to post
Rainmaker 7 Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Hi Spike, Generally a "cold" switch is best - just change him over. The odd incidence of diarrhoea is fairly rare, doesn't last long, and doesn't recur. Just be aware that turkey legs (although very cheap!) aren't ideal as they are strong, weight-bearing bones. Wings and backs, necks etc are a better bet. Ribs, brisket/breast, tails and so on are another good bet. Cheers. Quote Link to post
spike 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Hi Spike, Generally a "cold" switch is best - just change him over. The odd incidence of diarrhoea is fairly rare, doesn't last long, and doesn't recur. Just be aware that turkey legs (although very cheap!) aren't ideal as they are strong, weight-bearing bones. Wings and backs, necks etc are a better bet. Ribs, brisket/breast, tails and so on are another good bet. Cheers. Cheers Rainmaker - should have realised after reading all the info - got a bit carried away!! Quote Link to post
bigdazz 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 you will notice a differance in the poo they leave behind to alot easier to clean up too Quote Link to post
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