Realizing when you have a good one!

[rickyspringer 15]

Hi all,

 

thought I'd raise the subject on when you realize you have a pup with real potential to succeed and be a good dog for you?

 

My pup which is coming up 7months, I believe has something special and that he is going to be a very good dog if I do him justice, everything is so natural for him, retrieving, obedience work. He cottons on so quick and is unbelievably biddable.

 

I obviously haven't tested him yet and done anything serious as I do not want to spoil him, but i know he is going to be a good un and I knew it from the moment i brought him home.

 

What do you's look for and when and how do you know you have a dog with real potential.

 

RS

[waidmann 105]

i think you may have answeared your own question mate.

when everything seems easy and is done well,and you just know . mine is also 7 months and doing well.

i'm pretty sure the bond you have with the dog can make all the differance,if you suit and compliment each other then things do seem easy.

the most important thing is to be enjoying the work(both of you). it sounds to me like you two are.

good on you.

[hendo 1]

RS

 

Good question, i think it depends on what your target is for the dog in question, i think everyone wants their dog to be the best it can be, using all its natural instincts and abilities, i think if your aim is to trial, there is very little room for error, whilst if youre gonna shoot/beat/pick up with the dog it doesnt have to be as finely tuned ( thats not to say we dont all try for a perfect dog ).

 

It is great when you realise your dog has what it takes to be a top worker, and is going to serve you well, thats what its all about at the end of the day.

 

Baz

[rickyspringer 15]

Its nice when things are going smoothly thats for sure, i still have to get through that dreaded teenager phase, but I am going to see a trainer once a month for guidance and real expertise.

 

This dog has been utter bliss compared to my headcase bitch, she was a bitch in every sense of the word, head strong, independent, a nuisance to train.

 

Waidmann & Baz what have you got at the minute to run on?? under 1 years old, how is it going and what phase are you on?

 

RS

[hendo 1]

RS

 

I have a 7 month old springer bitch, coming along nicely, still nothing serious yet, but ive got confidence in her.

 

I also have a 9 week old Clumber Spaniel, no need to explain what stage she's at

but i hope she'll be a top worker in her years to come.

 

Baz

[rickyspringer 15]

Did you breed the 7month bitch yourself?

 

Haha I know what phase your at with the clumber, lots of feeding and lots of picking up!

 

RS

[waidmann 105]

when looking to get a dog( after the return to the uk) i was unsure on what to get springer,lab,hpr or terrier. i decided to get a terrier( prt now 7 1/2 months old). we hit it off pretty quick and he is willing to learn. recall is top,bushing like an old one,finding dead/wounded game,holding in the nets,marking,and easy on the stand when shooting pigeon/driven pheasant.

to top it all he is starting to go to ground( luckily he has not found the fox home yet).

he seems to be very mature for his age( he knows what green jeans and wellies mean and his excitment makes it nearly impossible to not forget something!!!) and is learning more every time we are out(3-4 times a week on differant bits of land lamping,ferreting,rough and driven shoots,duck/geese flighting)

he knows not to chase deer but puts them up and stands watching them and me alternatly

 

makes no sound at home and in the field only fox and hare are worth giving tongue about.

 

all in all he is coming on well as an all rounder for my needs,and is a charmer to boot

 

he is leggy but will not be able to retrieve hare/geese.as long as he can find them for me( and pull them out of water) i'm happy with that

yis

[hendo 1]

Did you breed the 7month bitch yourself?

 

Haha I know what phase your at with the clumber, lots of feeding and lots of picking up!

 

RS

 

 

RS

 

No, she is bred by Ian English ( Helmsway ) and your spot on about the Clumber, in one end, out the other

 

Baz

[rickyspringer 15]

Ian English breeds very well bred dogs so well done to you for getting your hands on one

 

The Witchwillows dog which is doing very well is bred by Ian isn't it?? "Helmsway Hawk Of Witchwillows" You have got some good dogs up your way Baz, not very good footy teams though

[Dave C 63]

Good to hear about your Terrier waidmann, i shoot over my Border/Lackland when we are hunting through real thick woodland and wood piles, they are especialy good when out on vermin drives.

 

The Lab bitch pup i have now is 10 months at the end of the week and i feel she is showing real promise over other gundogs i have owned.

This is mainly because she is showing the complete package, Keeness, good nose and wanting to work for me, which makes training her far easier and a joy, i have had other Labs with the obediance and nose but no where near the keeness to hunt and get into the thck, i have also had GWP who you struggled to stop huning and also a spaniel which i though was coming on well but was only in it for herself, which made working her more of a chew than a pleasure.

All the dogs turned out to be excellent Gundogs in there own right and i had many years of pleasure from them, but i am hoping that my new pup will continue to improve as she currently is, fingers crossed.

 

Dave.

[v-max 2]

Hi all,

 

thought I'd raise the subject on when you realize you have a pup with real potential to succeed and be a good dog for you?

 

My pup which is coming up 7months, I believe has something special and that he is going to be a very good dog if I do him justice, everything is so natural for him, retrieving, obedience work. He cottons on so quick and is unbelievably biddable.

 

I obviously haven't tested him yet and done anything serious as I do not want to spoil him, but i know he is going to be a good un and I knew it from the moment i brought him home.

 

What do you's look for and when and how do you know you have a dog with real potential.

 

RS

Depends on what you want/expect & peoples views can differ on that mater near all pups have it there just as you stated you do your bit. Dont want to burst you bubble but training & working at the final hurdal are worlds apart & its amazine how it can all change or go wrong in 1second or the dog reacts diffrent to the real working enviroment & clam up but it takes time & some times none. Just keep up the training & drum it in till 100% with the most importiant stuff the basic's ie recall/heel & sit/hup on the spot on command & it should go semi smooth for you. As i said training & the real stuff are worlds apart & his first working year will be like an apprentice ship to him to learn his trade & what its about & expected of him from you. Its a joy to see them come on & see certian tasks they excell at & working a good steady dog can be a great buzz but its not long & they seem to be grey faced & old & there time is over & the sad part to dog ownership all the best.

[j davies 8]

Hi all,

 

thought I'd raise the subject on when you realize you have a pup with real potential to succeed and be a good dog for you?

 

My pup which is coming up 7months, I believe has something special and that he is going to be a very good dog if I do him justice, everything is so natural for him, retrieving, obedience work. He cottons on so quick and is unbelievably biddable.

 

I obviously haven't tested him yet and done anything serious as I do not want to spoil him, but i know he is going to be a good un and I knew it from the moment i brought him home.

 

What do you's look for and when and how do you know you have a dog with real potential.

 

RS

 

i think the same as you you can see it and after a bit the dog starts to tell you to you can see the signs mate i got 2 cockers and both well now. tell you this about the 4 year old go out ferreting and she bolts rabbits he will sit there after she comes out as if to say dont go there is more in here 90% of the time he has been right work with your dog mate

[redbull1 0]

redbull here.i got a 5year old springer bitch from a friend who is finished shooting.she had not worked in over a year it was a gamble that paid off.the first day i brought her for a shot i was very impressed.i have no exsperiance with dogs but she showed me what to do.working bushes droping to a shot and watching where it falls ,if i manage to hit it retreving it dropping it at my feet.quarting and she,s not bad in the water i shot a duck or two she went in and brought them back.i can,t seem to get her to sit on one pip from the whistle she turns on two pips and returns on three what do i do???

[rickyspringer 15]

V-max I know what is involved in the training of a dog, I have an elder one- the subject was raised just saying how good it is to realise you have a dog with some real potential and learning ability, there is no bubble to burst I hope i can just do him justice and make a good worker out of him, and one which ca be enjoyed instead of being a nag and a pest to a dog to get it to what is expected "thats been the case with the older springer" This pup so far has been a dream!!

[waidmann 105]

good to read posts with an air of success and not the problems( which we all have i'm sure!!!).

good thread.