200,00 construction workers unemployed

[FightTheBan 1,147]

The standard of living people recieve on benefits is too high.

Imigrants into the country should be cut, and the minimum wage increased so it is economically viable for young people with few qualifications to get off theier arses and contribute to society.

There is something far wrong with the system when it is more profitable to sit at home than go out and graft. Country is a state.

[steveS.Yorks 161]

i dont really know much about politics but this is whats happend to me and im sure many other young lads,

 

when i left school i was unsure about what to do next, my grades wernt that good as i pratted about tryen to look cool and impress the girls ect, i could of done better as im not stupid (just my opinion ) all my family and other elders told me to get a trade behind me if only to fall back on. so i went to college and done a N.V.Q in construction this helped me get my key skills up to scratch and gain knowladge and practical skills in different trades, after that i chose to study bricklaying as it was the trade i enjoyed most out of the five in the construction course. i went on to complete both F.C.A and I.C.A in bricklaying. to gain the N.V.Q 2 in brickwork you need to be on-site working and one day a week in the classroom. alot ov the placments i went on used me as a cheap labourer and i hardly ever got on the trowel. i payed for all my own tools, boots, ect out of the 30 quid a week i was getting payed. it seems that everytime i was just getting there i had a " sorry son im gunna have to let you go i cant afford to keep you on"

 

im now 21 years old unemployed and still without my N.V.Q 2 and its not like i havent tried, some off my mates at college where more lucky than me and got good placements and the N.V.Q 2 but are now out of work, as employers can be choosey as there are alot of tradesmen out of work and will oftan pick the older more expereianced, im even having trouble getting labouring jobs or any job for that matter

 

i am not workshy or lazy on my days off college i was a window cleaner and have worked for local block paving companies that seem to like young lads for cheap cash in hand labour. last year was the worst for me workwise but im hoping this year will be better

 

im not trying to make anyone feel sorry for me or anything i just thought id share my first hand experience in trying to get into the construction industry

 

atb sam

 

This is a common scenario,and when i was on sites it was very common for the builders to have young Brickys and use them as cheap labour,its being going on for years and makes my blood boil to be honest.

One time a few years ago me and my mate were building a few bungalows for a "builder"[arsehole] the training agency let him have 3 lads from colledge supposedly he was giving them site experiance,the only experiance they got was mixing gobbo and carrying bricks,blatent slave labour and nothing in return,i tried a bit with them on friday afternoons when the wages were earned,good lads as well,just needed a genuine oppertunity but got used

Im not saying all builders are like this,some arent and give the young lads a good start,but a lot of the problem is financial,if the wages of the brickys are crap they havent got time to learn anybody properly,if the wages are good they tend to try and make as much as they can so still the youngsters get neglected,the best way is to try and get a job with a small firm with Brickys on the books,not a lot like that now granted but still some or council placement they do still have good training policies for the most part.

 

The government just use these training schemes/colledge placements to juggle job figures,and whats happening to all the CITB money supposedly paid in to train apprentices?? probably being spent keeping some fat usless arseholes in a cushy well paid job in a nice warm office,wouldnt be so bad if they actually gave a shit about the trainees and vetted builders properly and guaranteed they gave proper training,but dont hold your breath,if i had my way i would have these b*****ds humping bricks and sweating for a change.

Dont give up Sam if you really want to be a Bricky,for the most part i enjoyed it.

[WHITEYrs4 29]

It's the middle of winter. Worst snow for 40 years. And NOBODY'S BUILDING HOUSES? Well what a surprise. FFS you dimmo. Even if you only have two brain cells try to use them. Unemployment in the construction industry peaks in winter, OK?

Unemployment in the building trade has been riseing for the last five year due to the influx of cheap labour from eastern europe thats a fact you dimmo

 

Poacher - if that is the case then I agree the situation merits investigation. What I wanted to get over, though, is that

1.) Construction is at a standstill because of the weather.

2.) When work starts on the infrastructure for the Olympics there will be a temporary spike in the workload for the industry. This will be shortlived. In the meantime there will be no drop in demand for normal work. Does it make sense to teach people just for the Olympic work, who would then be unemployed, or to bring in temporary labour who can be sent back after the contract is completed?

 

There are no quick and easy answers. The Poles have all buggered off since the recession hit.

 

pRicW

Construction is at a standstill because of the weather

 

WHAT THE Fu*R are you smoking?

[rob.i 26]

iv been layed of from work due to the weather spoke to the dhss about a claim what a joke asked if i was looking for work and they where not of the white colour.... im not entitled to a claim cus of my presant earnings yet i one thats paying taxes... for what some dirty bomb making wtats to take it what a load of bollax

never signed on worked for over 20 years and cannot have a bean we fuk briton fek labour and fek all these scummy b*****ds time to do what they do live off everyone else and work for cash in hand :wankerzo4::wankerzo4::wankerzo4::wankerzo4::wankerzo4::wankerzo4:

If yuove been layed off you should be entitled to summat What do you mean because of your present earnings

 

the money i earn is high due to over time and how long iv been layed off,,, its them mate if ya face dont fit you wont get ferk all been back to work today but told may be off now till monday due to another bad forecast ,,,,,

the old catch22 situation created to discourage people to sign on

[Ned Makim 116]

Come to Oz. Plenty of demand for good workers here. Construction going on all over the country and the pay is good.

Cheers.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Come to Oz. Plenty of demand for good workers here. Construction going on all over the country and the pay is good.

Cheers.

is bluey hills still on the telly mate Edited January 13, 2010 by gonetoearth

[sambam 8]

i dont really know much about politics but this is whats happend to me and im sure many other young lads,

 

when i left school i was unsure about what to do next, my grades wernt that good as i pratted about tryen to look cool and impress the girls ect, i could of done better as im not stupid (just my opinion ) all my family and other elders told me to get a trade behind me if only to fall back on. so i went to college and done a N.V.Q in construction this helped me get my key skills up to scratch and gain knowladge and practical skills in different trades, after that i chose to study bricklaying as it was the trade i enjoyed most out of the five in the construction course. i went on to complete both F.C.A and I.C.A in bricklaying. to gain the N.V.Q 2 in brickwork you need to be on-site working and one day a week in the classroom. alot ov the placments i went on used me as a cheap labourer and i hardly ever got on the trowel. i payed for all my own tools, boots, ect out of the 30 quid a week i was getting payed. it seems that everytime i was just getting there i had a " sorry son im gunna have to let you go i cant afford to keep you on"

 

im now 21 years old unemployed and still without my N.V.Q 2 and its not like i havent tried, some off my mates at college where more lucky than me and got good placements and the N.V.Q 2 but are now out of work, as employers can be choosey as there are alot of tradesmen out of work and will oftan pick the older more expereianced, im even having trouble getting labouring jobs or any job for that matter

 

i am not workshy or lazy on my days off college i was a window cleaner and have worked for local block paving companies that seem to like young lads for cheap cash in hand labour. last year was the worst for me workwise but im hoping this year will be better

 

im not trying to make anyone feel sorry for me or anything i just thought id share my first hand experience in trying to get into the construction industry

 

atb sam

 

This is a common scenario,and when i was on sites it was very common for the builders to have young Brickys and use them as cheap labour,its being going on for years and makes my blood boil to be honest.

One time a few years ago me and my mate were building a few bungalows for a "builder"[arsehole] the training agency let him have 3 lads from colledge supposedly he was giving them site experiance,the only experiance they got was mixing gobbo and carrying bricks,blatent slave labour and nothing in return,i tried a bit with them on friday afternoons when the wages were earned,good lads as well,just needed a genuine oppertunity but got used

Im not saying all builders are like this,some arent and give the young lads a good start,but a lot of the problem is financial,if the wages of the brickys are crap they havent got time to learn anybody properly,if the wages are good they tend to try and make as much as they can so still the youngsters get neglected,the best way is to try and get a job with a small firm with Brickys on the books,not a lot like that now granted but still some or council placement they do still have good training policies for the most part.

 

The government just use these training schemes/colledge placements to juggle job figures,and whats happening to all the CITB money supposedly paid in to train apprentices?? probably being spent keeping some fat usless arseholes in a cushy well paid job in a nice warm office,wouldnt be so bad if they actually gave a shit about the trainees and vetted builders properly and guaranteed they gave proper training,but dont hold your breath,if i had my way i would have these b*****ds humping bricks and sweating for a change.

Dont give up Sam if you really want to be a Bricky,for the most part i enjoyed it.

 

thanks mate dont get me wrong iv had some good placements where the builder actualy had time to teach me and some bad where i was a cheap labourer and one who was just a bully i bit my lip for 2 weeks before he got what he deserved. but with the way construction is at the moment my quailfacation is on hold, im having trouble finding any job nevermind a placment. i have been on the dole for about 8 month now mabey longer its the first time since i left school and its degrading having to go to the same place as scummy addicts but on the plus side it was the perfect time to get a pup and get back into lurchers and keeps me from been bored, im sure when the industry picks up ill get the chance to gain the nvq 2.

 

atb sam

[RicW 67]

It's the middle of winter. Worst snow for 40 years. And NOBODY'S BUILDING HOUSES? Well what a surprise. FFS you dimmo. Even if you only have two brain cells try to use them. Unemployment in the construction industry peaks in winter, OK?

Unemployment in the building trade has been riseing for the last five year due to the influx of cheap labour from eastern europe thats a fact you dimmo

 

Poacher - if that is the case then I agree the situation merits investigation. What I wanted to get over, though, is that

1.) Construction is at a standstill because of the weather.

2.) When work starts on the infrastructure for the Olympics there will be a temporary spike in the workload for the industry. This will be shortlived. In the meantime there will be no drop in demand for normal work. Does it make sense to teach people just for the Olympic work, who would then be unemployed, or to bring in temporary labour who can be sent back after the contract is completed?

 

There are no quick and easy answers. The Poles have all buggered off since the recession hit.

 

pRicW

Construction is at a standstill because of the weather

 

WHAT THE Fu*R are you smoking?

 

Nowt mate. Packed up smoking a year back. DON'T arsk me about the MDMA . . . Base . . . Acid . . . DMT . . .

[steveS.Yorks 161]

i dont really know much about politics but this is whats happend to me and im sure many other young lads,

 

when i left school i was unsure about what to do next, my grades wernt that good as i pratted about tryen to look cool and impress the girls ect, i could of done better as im not stupid (just my opinion ) all my family and other elders told me to get a trade behind me if only to fall back on. so i went to college and done a N.V.Q in construction this helped me get my key skills up to scratch and gain knowladge and practical skills in different trades, after that i chose to study bricklaying as it was the trade i enjoyed most out of the five in the construction course. i went on to complete both F.C.A and I.C.A in bricklaying. to gain the N.V.Q 2 in brickwork you need to be on-site working and one day a week in the classroom. alot ov the placments i went on used me as a cheap labourer and i hardly ever got on the trowel. i payed for all my own tools, boots, ect out of the 30 quid a week i was getting payed. it seems that everytime i was just getting there i had a " sorry son im gunna have to let you go i cant afford to keep you on"

 

im now 21 years old unemployed and still without my N.V.Q 2 and its not like i havent tried, some off my mates at college where more lucky than me and got good placements and the N.V.Q 2 but are now out of work, as employers can be choosey as there are alot of tradesmen out of work and will oftan pick the older more expereianced, im even having trouble getting labouring jobs or any job for that matter

 

i am not workshy or lazy on my days off college i was a window cleaner and have worked for local block paving companies that seem to like young lads for cheap cash in hand labour. last year was the worst for me workwise but im hoping this year will be better

 

im not trying to make anyone feel sorry for me or anything i just thought id share my first hand experience in trying to get into the construction industry

 

atb sam

 

This is a common scenario,and when i was on sites it was very common for the builders to have young Brickys and use them as cheap labour,its being going on for years and makes my blood boil to be honest.

One time a few years ago me and my mate were building a few bungalows for a "builder"[arsehole] the training agency let him have 3 lads from colledge supposedly he was giving them site experiance,the only experiance they got was mixing gobbo and carrying bricks,blatent slave labour and nothing in return,i tried a bit with them on friday afternoons when the wages were earned,good lads as well,just needed a genuine oppertunity but got used

Im not saying all builders are like this,some arent and give the young lads a good start,but a lot of the problem is financial,if the wages of the brickys are crap they havent got time to learn anybody properly,if the wages are good they tend to try and make as much as they can so still the youngsters get neglected,the best way is to try and get a job with a small firm with Brickys on the books,not a lot like that now granted but still some or council placement they do still have good training policies for the most part.

 

The government just use these training schemes/colledge placements to juggle job figures,and whats happening to all the CITB money supposedly paid in to train apprentices?? probably being spent keeping some fat usless arseholes in a cushy well paid job in a nice warm office,wouldnt be so bad if they actually gave a shit about the trainees and vetted builders properly and guaranteed they gave proper training,but dont hold your breath,if i had my way i would have these b*****ds humping bricks and sweating for a change.

Dont give up Sam if you really want to be a Bricky,for the most part i enjoyed it.

 

thanks mate dont get me wrong iv had some good placements where the builder actualy had time to teach me and some bad where i was a cheap labourer and one who was just a bully i bit my lip for 2 weeks before he got what he deserved. but with the way construction is at the moment my quailfacation is on hold, im having trouble finding any job nevermind a placment. i have been on the dole for about 8 month now mabey longer its the first time since i left school and its degrading having to go to the same place as scummy addicts but on the plus side it was the perfect time to get a pup and get back into lurchers and keeps me from been bored, im sure when the industry picks up ill get the chance to gain the nvq 2.

 

atb sam

 

Time well spent then lol,everybodys struggling at the minuite,i know some really experianced lads who cant find work,good luck for the future with the job and the dogs.

[micheal 0]

Many of my family are in the building trade and have never seen it so bad. It makes me laugh when the government ries to tell us that we will be out of the recession in the spring! They have no grasp of reality, living in their subsidised westminster bubble!

It is in times like this that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer....

 

 

 

It is in times like this that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer....

so vote conservative

[rob.i 26]

Many of my family are in the building trade and have never seen it so bad. It makes me laugh when the government ries to tell us that we will be out of the recession in the spring! They have no grasp of reality, living in their subsidised westminster bubble!

It is in times like this that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer....

 

 

 

It is in times like this that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer....

so vote conservative

No point the building trade get shafted whoevers in I worked through the the thatcher years I was lucky many were,nt

[Ned Makim 116]

Come to Oz. Plenty of demand for good workers here. Construction going on all over the country and the pay is good.

Cheers.

is bluey hills still on the telly mate

 

Ha. Nah mate...be a bit like seeing Ena Sharples (spelling?) reappearing on Coronation St. I actually don't know what's on telly here now. We get a satellite service...

And I wasn't joking about the work out here. Places like Darwin, Townsville, remote parts of WA, plenty of building work and good money. Worth investigating if you've had a gutful.

Cheers.

[whin 463]

after being in the building and civils game for 25 years its ashame for alot of people out there we must oust labour our or burn them out lol, they have made some people struggle , some people became criminals through there passions , ive been lucky ive bought good earners and live of them but still not as good as i was 2 or 3 years ago , get rid of labour we need a national vote and marches etc ,or immigrate to pastures new for a while, hope it picks up for people ps i do alot of site manager work and when the agencies send men i tell them straight if they cant speak english i dont want them for health and safety reasons lol ive looked after a mountain of scots brits on sites cause i had the oppurtunity , not into foreign labour even tho i could start employing them if i started subbie them again ,only met afew decent ones in my time, in the miners strike when things got tie we helped alot of families with food ie pheasants roe fish lol it maybe get that way in fact it has in some small border communities were i no they take roadkll and eat it

[poacher3161 1,766]

after being in the building and civils game for 25 years its ashame for alot of people out there we must oust labour our or burn them out lol, they have made some people struggle , some people became criminals through there passions , ive been lucky ive bought good earners and live of them but still not as good as i was 2 or 3 years ago , get rid of labour we need a national vote and marches etc ,or immigrate to pastures new for a while, hope it picks up for people ps i do alot of site manager work and when the agencies send men i tell them straight if they cant speak english i dont want them for health and safety reasons lol ive looked after a mountain of scots brits on sites cause i had the oppurtunity , not into foreign labour even tho i could start employing them if i started subbie them again ,only met afew decent ones in my time, in the miners strike when things got tie we helped alot of families with food ie pheasants roe fish lol it maybe get that way in fact it has in some small border communities were i no they take roadkll and eat it

It will never be like it were in the miners strike as the torys succeeded in getting the working man at each others throats in the years after something that still remains today.atb dell

[Malt 379]

Nobodies mentioned the greedy, British agencies that flood the large construction sites with cheap, foreign labour. There have been a few very large projects here in Pembrokeshire in recent years, (LNG terminals, now new power station) and they have be inundated with Polish, Portuguese and the rest. These agencies only under cut the native firms slightly, but they pay the foreign workers just about bare minimum, and make around £10-£15 an hour off the back of every single one of them. Not bad going when you've got hundreds of workers on the books, if not thousands all over the country....

Edited January 16, 2010 by maltenby