1 testical

[primrose 4]

have a lurcher who before his accident at 20 weeks had both testicles down, he broke his stifle joint and moved his growth plate the back leg it happened to, that side the testicle went back up,and never came back down, would it be advisable to breed from him 1 litter or would he pass it onto his offspring

[James Doyle 59]

i doubt he would pass something like this onto his pups my friends whippet has only one testicle and its sired a litter or two

[primrose 4]

i doubt he would pass something like this onto his pups my friends whippet has only one testicle and its sired a litter or two

thanks james for your reply was there any come backs in the litters he sired

[Annmarie09 5]

As long as the testicle did descend to start with then I think that's ok. Dogs whose testicle has never descended should NEVER be bred from as it can be hereditary and requiring any pups it's passed on to to be operated on, which is irresponsible.

[primrose 4]

As long as the testicle did descend to start with then I think that's ok. Dogs whose testicle has never descended should NEVER be bred from as it can be hereditary and requiring any pups it's passed on to to be operated on, which is irresponsible.

they was definiately both there as it was two peanuts and now it is one walnut,i quite agree if there was only one in the beginning i would not be asking the question

[James Doyle 59]

the pups didnt get this condition mate atb JD

[Dawn B 212]

Id say no to breeding from it. Dogs do take testicles up and down, where they stay is the problem. If its retained, its not right. Id have it removed when they dog is mature and not breed from him at all, the responsible thing to do.

[Annmarie09 5]

As long as the testicle did descend to start with then I think that's ok. Dogs whose testicle has never descended should NEVER be bred from as it can be hereditary and requiring any pups it's passed on to to be operated on, which is irresponsible.

they was definiately both there as it was two peanuts and now it is one walnut,i quite agree if there was only one in the beginning i would not be asking the question

 

If the descended one is too large for the size and age of dog, or if it is growing quickly then that can be a sign of trouble.

 

Depending on the age of the dog now, if the retained testicle doesn't come down by 12 months you will need to have him neutered anyway because the inside one can turn into a tumour due to the excess heat it is experiencing.

 

I should have made myself clear before, I meant the reply about breeding for James Doyle. It could be the next generation of pups that develop the problem. Having had a dog go through the operation it isn't something I would wish for anyone's dog, it is a major op and he was unzipped from one end to the other. My dog was a lovely GSD with great hip and eye scores, the type the police want and have trouble getting. I had a few bitches lined up for him from a pup, plenty money to be made, but I made the decision to castrate him for his own good. Only the best should be bred from, and that doesn't just mean the best temperament, the best looking or the best worker, that means the healthiest too. I am sure most of you feel the same way I do about certain pure breeds who have health problems bred into them, for example Pugs, bulldogs, Boxers etc, breeding a dog with a retained testicle is as bad as breeding a GSD with a poor hip score in my opinion.

Edited January 13, 2010 by Annmarie09

[Tiff 36]

Personally if I were to make a list of benefits/faults, from WORKING ABILITY/INSTINCT to feet to coat to temperament and on to any other number of things, a dog with one testical would be at the very bottom of my list. What use is a "perfect", beautiful dog with 2 nuts that has no working ability or instinct to work? But this is coming from someone who doesn't breed except for my own use, I don't sell dogs.

[Annmarie09 5]

Personally if I were to make a list of benefits/faults, from WORKING ABILITY/INSTINCT to feet to coat to temperament and on to any other number of things, a dog with one testical would be at the very bottom of my list. What use is a "perfect", beautiful dog with 2 nuts that has no working ability or instinct to work? But this is coming from someone who doesn't breed except for my own use, I don't sell dogs.

 

 

Yes, as I said not JUST working ability etc but ALSO good health. And a dog with a retained testicle cannot be considered to be in good health.

[CorkyJohn 808]

"I had a few bitches lined up for him from a pup, plenty money to be made,"

you still had the intention of breeding for money in the 1st place, lets hope you stay away from working dogs

[Annmarie09 5]

"I had a few bitches lined up for him from a pup, plenty money to be made,"

you still had the intention of breeding for money in the 1st place, lets hope you stay away from working dogs

 

This was a purebred German Shepherd, not a crossbreed lurcher. Nothing wrong with breeding pedigree dogs in excellent health (he had great hip and eye scores). Plus I wanted a pup from him, plus homes were waiting for the pups, including the police. Don't see the problem there! My lurcher bitch will NOT be bred from so don't worry!

[Dawn B 212]

Personally if I were to make a list of benefits/faults, from WORKING ABILITY/INSTINCT to feet to coat to temperament and on to any other number of things, a dog with one testical would be at the very bottom of my list. What use is a "perfect", beautiful dog with 2 nuts that has no working ability or instinct to work? But this is coming from someone who doesn't breed except for my own use, I don't sell dogs.

HAve you ever seen a dog with a strangulated testicle? Let me tell you they writhe in agony screaming and throwing themselves around, lashing out in dreadful pain. Have you ever seen a dog with a testicular tumour? They die most often you know.

 

The testicles are situated OUTSIDE the body for a reason, they need to retain a lower temperature. Its an inherited genetic fault and shame on you thinking because it can "work" its fit for breeding. How about breeding HEALTHY working dogs? Good start?

Edited January 16, 2010 by Dawn B

[riohog 5,751]

Personally if I were to make a list of benefits/faults, from WORKING ABILITY/INSTINCT to feet to coat to temperament and on to any other number of things, a dog with one testical would be at the very bottom of my list. What use is a "perfect", beautiful dog with 2 nuts that has no working ability or instinct to work? But this is coming from someone who doesn't breed except for my own use, I don't sell dogs.

HAve you ever seen a dog with a strangulated testicle? Let me tell you they writhe in agony screaming and throwing themselves around, lashing out in dreadful pain. Have you ever seen a dog with a testicular tumour? They die most often you know.

 

The testicles are situated OUTSIDE the body for a reason, they need to retain a lower temperature. Its an inherited genetic fault and shame on you thinking because it can "work" its fit for breeding. How about breeding HEALTHY working dogs? Good start?

think youll find the bitches these dogs are bred from ..are the carrier of the gene!!!!

[Annmarie09 5]

Personally if I were to make a list of benefits/faults, from WORKING ABILITY/INSTINCT to feet to coat to temperament and on to any other number of things, a dog with one testical would be at the very bottom of my list. What use is a "perfect", beautiful dog with 2 nuts that has no working ability or instinct to work? But this is coming from someone who doesn't breed except for my own use, I don't sell dogs.

HAve you ever seen a dog with a strangulated testicle? Let me tell you they writhe in agony screaming and throwing themselves around, lashing out in dreadful pain. Have you ever seen a dog with a testicular tumour? They die most often you know.

 

The testicles are situated OUTSIDE the body for a reason, they need to retain a lower temperature. Its an inherited genetic fault and shame on you thinking because it can "work" its fit for breeding. How about breeding HEALTHY working dogs? Good start?

think youll find the bitches these dogs are bred from ..are the carrier of the gene!!!!

 

Not according to my vet! Although it is thought that both parents may be partly responsible, you can't tell whether a bitch carries the gene unless she has had pups with problems before, but a dog with the problem obviously IS a carrier!