sikastag_1 689 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 i shoot with a 22-250 tika t3 stainless varmint and you need to put the safety off before you can open the bolt iv had this rifle for about 5 years and like the rifle but i dont like this design just wondering if anybody can give me a good reason why the design is like this because to me its a very stupid idea, i take it all t3s are like this? Quote Link to post
Night Hunter 109 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 i shoot with a 22-250 tika t3 stainless varmint and you need to put the safety off before you can open the bolt iv had this rifle for about 5 years and like the rifle but i dont like this design just wondering if anybody can give me a good reason why the design is like this because to me its a very stupid idea, i take it all t3s are like this? I had a T3 too mate and did not like that either apart from the other problems I had with it but I upgraded to the sako 85 and the build quality is like night and day sako has a bolt release button to allow the bolt to be opened when the safety is firmly on but i had to part with a good bit more cash for the sako but worth it in my opinion Quote Link to post
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 I also hated that feature on my previous Tikka T3. Quote Link to post
rjimmer 4 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 (edited) I always thought that all bolt action rifles had safeties that locked the bolt. All mine are the same. BSA, Sauer, Steyr, Tikka. Edited January 6, 2010 by rjimmer Quote Link to post
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Nope. On my Remington, I can have the safety ON and work the bolt. Couldn't do it on the T3 I had. IMO it's safer to be able to work the bolt with the safety ON. Quote Link to post
black lab 3 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Hi Folks, My Browning A Bolt .270 is the same, Safety on locks the bolt! and Safety off to open the bolt i think its silly you should be able to open bolt with safety on Quote Link to post
allysin 0 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 i'm not 100% sure of this but i thought the safety catches that lock the bolt also stop the firing pin releasing.the catches that allow bolt operation only lock trigger function.in theory that would make the locked bolt option safer in the event of the rifle being dropped etc. sure someone knows more about this than me .... Quote Link to post
hunter1 63 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 My steyr manlicher pro hunter 223 is the some mate. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Help me out here everyone...yep, I have Tikkas and I don't have an issue..have I missed something..everyone says they don't like this...can someone tell me quite why and what their issue is??? Cheers!! Quote Link to post
coldweld 65 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 The simple answer is Cost ! Same for the single size long action. Quote Link to post
Fidgety 8 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Help me out here everyone...yep, I have Tikkas and I don't have an issue..have I missed something..everyone says they don't like this...can someone tell me quite why and what their issue is??? Cheers!! Have to say I'm struggling as to what the issue is. When loading/unloading my Tikka, the muzzle always faces the ground - this is what I was taught and it works. I can see the appeal of removing a locked bolt, but at the end of the day, on moving the bolt, the muzzle should face a safe direction, so no real benefit. Quote Link to post
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Help me out here everyone...yep, I have Tikkas and I don't have an issue..have I missed something..everyone says they don't like this...can someone tell me quite why and what their issue is??? Cheers!! Load your rifle. Now unload it. You have to flick the safety OFF to unload right? That's my issue. I can load my Remington, and unload it, with the safety ON for the entire operation, I'm a lot happier doing it that way. Remington is safer IMO, it cuts out one more possibility of an accident happening with the safety off. Quote Link to post
Fidgety 8 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 (edited) Help me out here everyone...yep, I have Tikkas and I don't have an issue..have I missed something..everyone says they don't like this...can someone tell me quite why and what their issue is??? Cheers!! Load your rifle. Now unload it. You have to flick the safety OFF to unload right? That's my issue. I can load my Remington, and unload it, with the safety ON for the entire operation, I'm a lot happier doing it that way. Remington is safer IMO, it cuts out one more possibility of an accident happening with the safety off. I can see your point about it feeling safer, but you wouldnt load and unload with the muzzle pointing up. Therefore, with good loading practice, it is no safer although it will feel safer. Personal preference thing. Remington was my next choice of rifle after the Tikka, nobody had one, so I never got the chance to handle one. Edited January 5, 2010 by Fidgety Quote Link to post
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 I can see your point about it feeling safer, but you wouldnt load and unload with the muzzle pointing up. Therefore, with good loading practice, it is no safer although it will feel safer. Personal preference thing. Remington was my next choice of rifle after the Tikka, nobody had one, so I never got the chance to handle one. Agree with you entirely about gun handling. However, it still helps to prevents accidents as the safety is on. Pointed at the ground, I still don't want an accidental discharge of the firearm. I think the feature of having the safety on, helps this. It's only a small thing, but I would rather have it than not Quote Link to post
danebrewer10 6 Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 really what is the issue here? you don't like having the safety off for unloading right? you don't have your finger in the trigger guard whilst operating the bolt? you're not riding on a test track for tank suspension? so there's no jolting, manufacturers design their rifles to fire when the trigger is pulled! so just point it in a safe direction, likley as not you'll either be at a range or in the field, so downrange or at a bank, or hill away from people so it's completely safe! if you think the rifle could discharge with the safety off on it's own then you should take it to the gunsho to have it looked at! honestly though, if you practice safe gun handling there should be no issue.... I understand a preference, but in practice i'd be extreemly surprised if anything happened. each to their own... Cheers DB Quote Link to post
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