rickyspringer 15 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Hi all, thought I would raise the subject on correction, what theory do you use on a day to day basis, ie for not stopping to a whistle, slow recall or none at all, general disobedience. Look forward to informative answers as correction is a huge role in the training of dogs. RS Quote Link to post
Fortunate son 0 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Hi all, thought I would raise the subject on correction, what theory do you use on a day to day basis, ie for not stopping to a whistle, slow recall or none at all, general disobedience. Look forward to informative answers as correction is a huge role in the training of dogs. RS Depends on temprement of the dog..My line of springers are soft so no more than a harsh gruff voice and pick them up is more than suffice..My cockers are different they are not hard but cheeky ,voice and letting them know your within distance to them and never taking your eyes of them too give them the chance to take the piss..Whereas on of the labs I have very well bred is hard in temprement and its a battle to train her ..its not fun fr me or for her at the moment, which defeats one of the most valuable part of training which is to be fun for the both of us..Its a battle of wills at the moment and mine has to win..Ive had hard dogs before and I dont mean macho I mean that there an alfa and they assume that there way is the only way but its a dominance pure and simple... Sit and stay or not stopping on whistle get out to your dog pick it up sit near enough when it ignored you and correct it there repeating the command so the dog knows what happened.One of the training techniques I first learnt was trying to get the dog to feck up on the flush.by kicking a tennis ball when qrt away from the dog as it turns giving it a chance to chase as you blow the whistle,,,eventually after many a chase the dog should naturally hup to a flush woithout the whistle..However with more of a cheeky dog a slightly harder approach may be required .. However with the lab in question is just two steps forward one back and an occassional rattle of a choke chain happy days :whistling: Quote Link to post
rickyspringer 15 Posted January 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 very good response, i agree that it depends on the temprement of the dog. My bitch which was my first gundog is a complete case, she's sensitive but hard at the same time if that makes sense, she was a tough dog to train as a first one, everything is coming together and we are doing well now, i have left the techniques of the gruff voice, she needs to know that I am on top of her at all times and if she takes a step wrong I am there to correct her instantly with a scruff or placed in the spot she went wrong. Trust me if i give her an inch she takes a mile. Its a shame because I always feel that I am on her back but thats the way it has to be!! With the pup we have just got through our socialization and doig some basics, hasn't really needed correcting but at times he disobeys the sit point blank so gets corrected with a tap on the nose. think he will be much easier than my bitch, well i hope he is! Quote Link to post
shotup 9 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 correction methods differ from dog to dog you must first get to know what type of temperment your up against and also let the dog get to know you. trying to train any dog with the same method will result in many failures that is why some dog men shouldnt really have dogs to train. allways be calm when checking your dog and not turn into a jeckel and hide infront of the dog.be consistent in correcting your mutt as its all a learning curve for both dog and owner. Quote Link to post
Dave C 63 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 I have trained Rotties to a high standard and they need a firm hand and a deep voice, as did my GWP who only respected strength as he feared nothing, my current Terrier although not the same stacher has the same attitude and needs a firm hand although obviously not as strong. Now my current Lab pup and my Lurcher are altogether different animals, both are slightly timid to authority so its softly softly, i find that you need quiet low tones and if you are say correcting running in, you have to softly take her by the scruff and take her back to the spot you blew the whistle, not shouting or grabbing or she will loose focus on training and you will be just wasting your time as a scared dog learns nothing, if you reassure a timid dog it will become confident which in itself overcomes allot of problems before they arise. As others have said, each dog is different and the trick it to tailor the training around the temperament of the dog to get the best results. Dave. Quote Link to post
j davies 8 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 i have 2 cockers the one that 4 is one hard fog to train it was my first one so we both learnt from each other at the age of 6 months he did not like his lead so i left him of it when he misbehaved i put him back on he learnt in 8 months. same as i did with the ferrets if he went near them or try to hurt them he was left at home and i had day with them got home he seen the rabbits i had with the ferrets. that was nearly 4 years ago today he is one hell of a dog never on lead works with the ferrets like i have never seen fully gun trained the lot all ahrd work but i did enjoy it when we go hunting for rabbits and the ferret is still in there he will sit there till she comes out. got my new pup and she is 18 months old now and she is the same way only 6 months ahead thats because she learns off him . both these dogs have never been hit ever do what they told all the time now and then they fx up dont all dogs. my old one stopped retreving last year so when i went shooting i got the kill my self let him watch today god he fetches back within seconds you do not need harsh traing just need to understand the dog in my eyes Quote Link to post
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