The Best?

[bobby2 327]

saluki bull greyhound then

[Guest LancsUK]

Some decent roller skates and a street lamp

[berty1 8]

saluki bull greyhound then

 

 

There werent any bull in coursing dogs what I remember, but times and fads change.I think the Original was the best for hare and deer Saluki/grey. Each to their own though.

[adamb20 22]

saluki bull greyhound then

 

why would you want bull in if you didnt want collie?

[FightTheBan 1,147]

''A collie can be too clever for its own good sometimes. Its personal choice but I dont like collie in a lurcher. ''

 

There is no such thing as a working dog that is too clever.

There is such a thing as a dog ownwer that does not have the ability to train a smart dog.

I do not mean to offend you, it is just my opinion and have seen many good dogs ruined (funnily enough most are collie derrived lurchers) because the owners are too inept to train them and stimulate them enough.

 

I am very much open to be corrected.

Cheers FTB

[berty1 8]

''A collie can be too clever for its own good sometimes. Its personal choice but I dont like collie in a lurcher. ''

 

There is no such thing as a working dog that is too clever.

There is such a thing as a dog ownwer that does not have the ability to train a smart dog.

I do not mean to offend you, it is just my opinion and have seen many good dogs ruined (funnily enough most are collie derrived lurchers) because the owners are too inept to train them and stimulate them enough.

 

I am very much open to be corrected.

Cheers FTB

 

Im not offended, you are entitled to your opinion as much as I am to mine.

You are contradicting yourself though,

"There is no such thing as a working dog that is too clever"

But...

"There is such a thing as a dog owner that does not have the ability to train a smart dog"

A clever/smart dog will think for himself, regardless of what you have trained him, he will adapt to situations that arise during the hunt. So although you have trained him to do 1 thing, his cleverness makes him adapt to do something that he thinks is better suited for that situation which might not be the thing that is best for the hunt/course at the time. If he doesnt adapt to different situations and go against what you taught him he isnt a clever dog, he is a normal lurcher/longdog.

[FightTheBan 1,147]

Sorry, still dont agree.

 

Inteligence in a dog makes it a greater advisery for its quarry, its what can give a dog the edge and what can make either an average dog a special dog.

 

I am not saying all collie crosses will be world beaters, some will be untrainable, thats nature.

 

What intelligent dogs need is instruction, direction, stimulation etc and thefore they are not likely to put two fingers up to their owner, and do their own thing. A dog with these qualities as well as a bond with their owner will want to please.

 

I have seen clever dogs make a c#nt of owners who cannot see the potential in their animals and dont have the ability to train them, each dog is different.

[boo28 0]

A collie can be too clever for its own good sometimes. Its personal choice but I dont like collie in a lurcher.

you prob like bull x they are realy bright

[berty1 8]

I have never owned a collie cross personally, but have seen some run in my time, some good some not. Im not here to argue whether collie is good or not in a lurcher because obviously it is in some dogs, but just not my cup of tea.

ATB

[jackarmstrong 4]

the erliest lurchers always had collie in the breeding, simply becuse there obedient easy to train and can provide food for the pot, which was the holemeaing of having a lurcher.

[snap 15]

it aint a proper lurcher with out collie

 

thats what i would say

i would say bollocks!

[flint67 2]

brains in dogs . . . It all depends on how you hunt and what you enjoy , me personally its the last thing i look for in a dog and i steer clear of collie crosses. There are people out there who enjoy seeing the dog work for itself , but not me. .i cant stand mooching dogs , god knows i wish there was a lurcher with no sense of smell my biggest bugbear is a running dog with its head to the ground , i want sight hounds scouring the horizon, im not in the least bit interested if theres a pheasant in the hedge or a rabbit in the long grass or more bloody likely if a fox had a crap 4hours ago or a bitch had a piss 2weeks ago . .drives me crazy. I never hunt dogs off the slip lead ,day or night. Its a chain of command with me at the top , cause im the only one out of me and the dog that can tell the difference between a deer thats in the open and one thats 6strides away from jumping into a field of 200cattle. . . I dont want the dog ever in the position where its the one deciding what to hunt , so brains is the last thing im looking for , like i said it all depends how you hunt

[gone poaching 0]

easy if just for rabbit maybe bit bigger quary id go for collie whippet greyhound brains speed strong every thing you need in a dog

 

 

you dont need collie in a lurcher, times have changed theres better out there, get your self a well bred working whippet there is no better for rabits

 

 

 

please enlighten us how you came to such a stupid conclusion

 

 

why carnt you work it out for yourself

[irishlad 11]

i wouldnt have a collie cross if you were to give me 1!!!!

[border lad 1,047]

easy if just for rabbit maybe bit bigger quary id go for collie whippet greyhound brains speed strong every thing you need in a dog

 

 

you dont need collie in a lurcher, times have changed theres better out there, get your self a well bred working whippet there is no better for rabits

have you ever had collie in your lurchers, ((( or maybe you have only started, a whippet is a grand wee dog, but oh boy, they are injury prone

they have a fantastic, burst of speed, a very fine coat, and there toes are subject,and if they run into a fence, you have serious problems

but one mans meat is another mans poison,