stu_young 3 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 just seen on another forum some asking if the police contact your dotors as as par the course off issuing a sgc any body know if they do? just curious thats all Quote Link to post
SEAN3513 7 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 yes they do !!!!!! because they are not going to issue a licence to someone with depression or mental illness. cheers sean Quote Link to post
JonathanL 4 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 On 02/01/2010 at 14:09, stu_young said: just seen on another forum some asking if the police contact your dotors as as par the course off issuing a sgc any body know if they do? just curious thats all They don't contact your doctor as a matter of routiene. You must sign the declaration allowing them to but they only ask your doctor about you if you have answered yes to the "have you got any mental illnesses" question. They can't simply go on a fishing trip through your medical records and, even then, many doctors won't tell themn anything anyway. If the doctor does tell them anything then it will probably be restricted to "yes" or "no" answers. J. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 On 02/01/2010 at 14:09, stu_young said: just seen on another forum some asking if the police contact your dotors as as par the course off issuing a sgc any body know if they do? just curious thats all They certainly do not contact your doctor every time, but you must give them authority to do so and depending how you complete the form, and what they had for breakfast on any given day they may well! You must be honest!!! Quote Link to post
JonathanL 4 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 On 02/01/2010 at 14:14, SEAN3513 said: yes they do !!!!!! because they are not going to issue a licence to someone with depression or mental illness. cheers sean They don't. The relevant part from the HO guidance to the police says; "Medical Information 10.19 The application forms for firearm and shot gun certificates require the applicant to give permission for the police to approach the applicant’s General Practitioner (GP), who should be registered in the UK, in order to obtain factual details of the applicant’s medical history. 10.20 This authority is to assist the police in dealing with cases where there are genuine doubts or concerns about the applicant’s medical history that may have a bearing on the applicant’s suitability to possess firearms. The authority should be used only where the doubts or concerns about the applicant’s medical history appear to require more detailed information to enable the final assessment of the application to be conducted. Such doubts or concerns might be prompted by the applicant’s answers to the medical questions on the application form, or they may arise from other information available to the police. 10.21 Approaches to applicants’ doctors should not be made as a matter of routine. Nor should approaches be made simply to check the accuracy of the medical information provided in application forms, unless there are some grounds for concern about the applicant in question or the information given. It is an offence to knowingly or recklessly make a false statement in order to obtain a certificate. This would apply to any false statement given in answer to the medical questions on the application form. Where approaches to applicants’ doctors are deemed necessary, they should be made in writing." J. Quote Link to post
stu_young 3 Posted January 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 i thought they would off checked witht the doctors,as you can simpy say no on the forms. i just spoke with mate that had his sgc a couple off years an knows his doctor personly an his feo never contacted the doctor so i'm still at a lost Quote Link to post
JonathanL 4 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 On 02/01/2010 at 14:35, stu_young said: i thought they would off checked witht the doctors,as you can simpy say no on the forms. i just spoke with mate that had his sgc a couple off years an knows his doctor personly an his feo never contacted the doctor so i'm still at a lost You can't say "no" on the form. Well, you can but they won't grant your ticket. J. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 On 02/01/2010 at 14:35, stu_young said: i thought they would off checked witht the doctors,as you can simpy say no on the forms. i just spoke with mate that had his sgc a couple off years an knows his doctor personly an his feo never contacted the doctor so i'm still at a lost Try it and see if you get a FAC/SGC!! Quote Link to post
stu_young 3 Posted January 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 the way i understood it they checked it with the doctors 100% off the time was just courios how they done it thats all i hae nothing to hide so they cn ask who ever they like if i'm off simply mind ..lol Quote Link to post
daveydw 0 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 (edited) My FEO has just contacted my doctors mine is the durham area i asked the feo if this was routine he said if you put anything at all in the medical question box on the form they will contact your doctors every time They send your doctor a form to be filled in to check you have no mental illness and what ever condition you have wouldn,t put you or others at risk from you owning a firearm. by the way i just put i take medication for high blood pressure and they still contacted my doctors Edited January 2, 2010 by daveydw Quote Link to post
martin 332 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Just because you have suffered depression/anxiety this does not mean that you won't be issued a cert for a shotgun or a firearm,but,as has been said you must be up front..........Martin Quote Link to post
dave1372 83 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 On 02/01/2010 at 16:50, martin said: Just because you have suffered depression/anxiety this does not mean that you won't be issued a cert for a shotgun or a firearm,but,as has been said you must be up front..........Martin A mate of mine that had on occasions suffered from depression declared it on his application and they contacted his gp and he was still issued his SGC...he did discuss it with his FEO on his visit and explained that although on occasions he does get down it is not a case he feels unable to cope and suicidal. I imagine as long as you haven't showed signs of trying to hurt yourself or others you would be ok......or do you have a lust for liver, fava beans and chianti! Good luck Quote Link to post
SEAN3513 7 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 On 02/01/2010 at 14:35, JonathanL said: On 02/01/2010 at 14:14, SEAN3513 said: yes they do !!!!!! because they are not going to issue a licence to someone with depression or mental illness. cheers sean They don't. The relevant part from the HO guidance to the police says; "Medical Information 10.19 The application forms for firearm and shot gun certificates require the applicant to give permission for the police to approach the applicant’s General Practitioner (GP), who should be registered in the UK, in order to obtain factual details of the applicant’s medical history. 10.20 This authority is to assist the police in dealing with cases where there are genuine doubts or concerns about the applicant’s medical history that may have a bearing on the applicant’s suitability to possess firearms. The authority should be used only where the doubts or concerns about the applicant’s medical history appear to require more detailed information to enable the final assessment of the application to be conducted. Such doubts or concerns might be prompted by the applicant’s answers to the medical questions on the application form, or they may arise from other information available to the police. 10.21 Approaches to applicants’ doctors should not be made as a matter of routine. Nor should approaches be made simply to check the accuracy of the medical information provided in application forms, unless there are some grounds for concern about the applicant in question or the information given. It is an offence to knowingly or recklessly make a false statement in order to obtain a certificate. This would apply to any false statement given in answer to the medical questions on the application form. Where approaches to applicants’ doctors are deemed necessary, they should be made in writing." J. cheers jonathon interesting..........and as has already been said.......be HONEST every step of the way. atb sean Quote Link to post
davyt63 1,845 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 hi they will contact your doctor,i sent mine of in may 09 and when i had my interview back in august09. i was asked about some medical concerns and was honest with him. but still waiting to hear about fac cert now in 2010 so best be honest! regards davy Quote Link to post
JonathanL 4 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 On 02/01/2010 at 16:23, daveydw said: My FEO has just contacted my doctors mine is the durham area i asked the feo if this was routine he said if you put anything at all in the medical question box on the form they will contact your doctors every time They send your doctor a form to be filled in to check you have no mental illness and what ever condition you have wouldn,t put you or others at risk from you owning a firearm. by the way i just put i take medication for high blood pressure and they still contacted my doctors On the face of it then that wouldn't seem to fit the guidance. Quote Link to post
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