border lad 1,047 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I had a couple in the early 70s both 3/4 grey 1/4 deer hound, slow to start, they are muckle in the beginning, running wide, overshooting, there quarry, then they get balanced out, about 18 months to 2 years old, good genuine dogs, when they get going, and very strong ideal for today's deer, both dogs stood around 28" and good length, nose, stamina, good feet, and both had good coats and I liked the beard on one of them, the only downside is waiting for them to mature and balance out, (( around 2years) strong powerful dogs with a very kind temperament which did you prefair mate the 1/2 cross or 3/4? they were both 3/4 bred, they are Ideal for the deer job, and both were rough coated, they were a common breed in the 60s and 70s Quote Link to post
flint67 2 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 3/4 grey 1/4 deer , my choice of dog for many years , ideal deerhunting dogs , what people often forget is that not only did the GOOD deer dogs have to have size and strength to tackle deer bigger than roe , but they had to be quick. Some 2nd x were also quick enough , but no matter what the breeding you have to keep the speed. I wouldnt recommend them for rabbitting , there have to be 10or 12 better breeds of lurcher for that game. I wouldnt run 28 and 30inch dogs on rabbits , just asking for injuries , sure they can do a half decent job , but it just aint their game Quote Link to post
Rory4 267 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 does anyone have or know of any deer grey x grey whippet? its a x would be interested in the future. the whippet to bring size down abit? would want a bitch abou 25-26. to retrieve everything. pics be good. cheers Quote Link to post
old school 518 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 does anyone have any experience with them for having a taste for terriers??? some of the old lurcher books describe them as fox dogs as well as terrier killers Quote Link to post
border lad 1,047 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 does anyone have any experience with them for having a taste for terriers??? some of the old lurcher books describe them as fox dogs as well as terrier killers as I said it was a common breed, in the 60s/70s and I saw plenty of that xs but I never saw one fight or attack another lurcher in the hunting field,they are a very placid, type of dog, easy going,temperament, they were more suited for the deer, A Lad from Carlisle, had one back also in the early 70s DERECK,STAMPER, he will be in his mid 60s now, a big lemon and white dog, rough coat, a fantastic looking lurcher he could run all over Hares, but could just not pick them up, but for Deer, he was dynamite, if anyone knows dereck, give him my regards, Quote Link to post
noddy10 411 Posted January 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 wont be for a while like but i think im swaying towards a 3/4 greyhound 1/4 deerhound Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I used to take one out for a chap in the 70s a big steel grey couloured dog at 32tts it run at draks and won some shows rebel he was called even though he was an average dog he did produce some outstanding pups the once he was bred to a small collie/grey.atb dell Quote Link to post
don1 1 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 do u not think they are 2 big for rabbits and what do people mean good for foxing pre ban you can still run 2 dogs on a fox??? Quote Link to post
sniper 30 Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Very good dogs. but as stated, if [bANNED TEXT] after something for alot of rabbit control go for something smaller. but bigger game is what you want then i wouldnt complain. Noddy , of what i have seen the 2nd bred half x have been the best. brings the size down also. goood luck Quote Link to post
Wild_and_Irish 11 Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 The Americans who run coyotes on this site use staghounds (basically 1/2x deer/grey) maybe you should ask them. Quote Link to post
Guest LancsUK Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 I was thinkin same.. What does the deerhound add? Isit all said in the name? or isit like the saluki for its stamina? Quote Link to post
artic 595 Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 22tts 4 months old. Quote Link to post
johnnyht 0 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 I'm also looking at getting deerhound/greyhound x, but when breeding is there away of breeding to make sure you get rough haired or is just down to pot luck? Quote Link to post
border lad 1,047 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 I'm also looking at getting deerhound/greyhound x, but when breeding is there away of breeding to make sure you get rough haired or is just down to pot luck? most litters,first and 2nd x was rough coats some more than others, but believe you me, I have a 3/4 grey/ 1/4 beardie, only 12 months old has a fantastic nose on him, and has done 2 roe single handed, the dog weighs about 68lb 26" and half, smooth coat, ((( why go for a xs that you have to wait untill there almost 2 year old before there are doing there job,((( and those 2 I mentioned was done broad daylight, and this sapling has been nursed along, encouraged to use his nose, to hunt a wood and rough cover, he was only at rabbits got his first daylight rabbit when he was about 7 and half months old, hunted it up and retrievd back to hand, then I took out on the lamp with a first class dog, collie x with a smidgen of saluki in him, a strike like a cobra, and retrieves all back to hand alive, I held him up so he could see how a top dog works, he was around 9 months old then on his first outing, nursed again only a couple of slips, and so on never has he ever been,over tasked, he is only a sapling, and he has taken everything in his stride in a natural way, and I hope he never sees a fox, untill he is at least 2and half year, old in truth it would please me if he never saw one, a fox is nothing, (( I do not know anyone who has tried to eat that fellow, time, has moved on since the greyhound x deerhound, they are a fantastic, looking dog,great temp, but oh boys they are MUCKLE, but eventually, when they get balanced out, yes they can do there job, but NO BETTER, than a good collie xs, Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,454 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 (edited) I'm also looking at getting deerhound/greyhound x, but when breeding is there away of breeding to make sure you get rough haired or is just down to pot luck? I have it in a book somewhere that 1st cross Deerhound x greyhound is ALWAYS smooth if both sides are pure bred. Second cross you can get rough coats. My pup is a genuine 1st x, Doxhope Knights Errant x Rivington Eva; and she is rough coated. Cheers. Edited January 4, 2010 by chartpolski 1 Quote Link to post
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