bullx100% 681 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 just thought id put this up.probly get some stick for it but o well! Alot of people on here are always saying dont start working your dogs untill there eight or nine month and some even say ten month because of causing them to jipp or open up but there ar some who have pups out at five or six month old on the lamp.me my self i hold them back til around eight month old somtimes longer if the pup doesnt seem ready for it but wat about wild dogs?after all all are canine companions are desendents of wolves and they had no human interferance or anyone holding them back because they were to young.evern in poor countrys ther are wild (stray) dogs living on the street wat have no interfeance from humans but still they breed and there offspring survive with no help from us and these dogs dont get held back so kinda makes me wonder should i let my pup self enter ie. Bushing or ferriting wilst out with older dogs or should i not introduce it to rabbits till 8 month ????? Quote Link to post
longdog13 36 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 in all fairness mate, ours aren't wild dogs, and wild dogs have more hunts than catches, i mean, wild dogs aren't expected to hunt all day and catch 20+ rabbits are they. they hunt, catch kill eat sleep. and wild dog parents don.t generally have their pups along on the hunts. that's why they use dens. just a thought. all the best LD13 Quote Link to post
peefa 0 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Look at the condition of a wild dog as well, plus their lifespan is fairly short Quote Link to post
littlefish 586 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 I think your point about the wild dogs is that they probably have a shorter life span overall and it is survival of the fittest in the environment available. All wild animals fulfill their role as long they live long enough to reproduce and continue the species. Regards feral type dogs who hang around human settlements, they might not do too much actual hunting, most of thier food might come from scrounging in rubbish from the humans. The function bred dogs that we aim to keep are nurtured, trained and hopefully wormed etc in order to thrive successfully for a long time, rather than just survive long enough to reproduce? Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 The diff is a wild dog wolf whatever learns by watching the parents and eventually joining in when it's mature enough. Wild dog types hunt avariety of prey not just big stuff. Mice rats voles squirrels that kind of thing . Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Theirs a big difference in actually working a pup intentionaly on quarry at a young age or takeing them on the land at a young age which IMHO is a must as soon has the pups been jabbed up.atb dell Quote Link to post
longdog13 36 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Theirs a big difference in actually working a pup intentionaly on quarry at a young age or takeing them on the land at a young age which IMHO is a must as soon has the pups been jabbed up.atb dell thats right, i just got back from a good little walk with my 12 week old pup, gets him used to the sights and scents, not to mention the terrain. Quote Link to post
Helen 2 Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Wolves Don't bark Quote Link to post
Fast but dim 1 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Wild canids are selectively bred by nature. Domestic dogs are selectively bred by us. The wild ones that barked or did something else unhelpful to hunting weren't as successful as those that didn't so they didn't live as long, didn't produce as many litters and so the trait just died out....evolution. On the other hand if our dog opens up it still gets fed when it goes home and although some people are careful about breeding from good working dogs, some people breed from absolutely anything and so the bad traits carry on never thought of it like that, very well said. imho the later you leave entering a dog the better, assuming that the year or you're not hunting with it you're training it. never been able to resist the urge to chase rabbits with mine though! lamped my first dog at 4 or 5 mo!!!!! used to bark a bit surprisingly. just go bushing these days, my youngest dog's 12 mo, and ready for entering on the lamp. Saying that i've accidently chased the deer in my local woods the last 3 days! Quote Link to post
fresh earth 47 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 in all fairness we made the running dogs also our running dogs are not as hardy and versatile as a bloomin wolf its more due to injuring a fragile pup rather than anything else in my opinion Quote Link to post
steptoe jet 4 Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 got to agree with flint Quote Link to post
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