Can't get lurcher on dried food

[bez 0]

Putting this up for a mate.he is trying to get his 2 year old lurcher on to dried feed it was on beef the frozen stuff you get.he's tried mixing abit in with his meat but she just sorts through it and leaves the dry food .he's tried wetting it up with water and even gravy but she won't touch it he's left it down for a cpl of days and only had a cpl of mouth fulls she must be hungrey but still she won't eat it he's tryed different brands with no luck any ideas what he can do next or try pm with ideas cheers

[skellyb 8]

Putting this up for a mate.he is trying to get his 2 year old lurcher on to dried feed it was on beef the frozen stuff you get.he's tried mixing abit in with his meat but she just sorts through it and leaves the dry food .he's tried wetting it up with water and even gravy but she won't touch it he's left it down for a cpl of days and only had a cpl of mouth fulls she must be hungrey but still she won't eat it he's tryed different brands with no luck any ideas what he can do next or try pm with ideas cheers

Sounds like a very clever dog

[sandymere 8,263]

As long as it's a healthy dog slowly reduce the mince and increase the copmplete it'll no starve it's self for to long.

[adam1 2]

Get hold of a copy of Febuarys sporting shooter, theres an article in about this faddy stage many lurchers go through apparently.

[bez 0]

Any ideas what the article said?it's been a cpl of days now. My mates been tempted to give in to the dog but I told him to hang in surely if it gets to hungrey it will eat it

[coursing mad 5]

go out and cach its food

[skycat 6,174]

Why would anyone want to stop feeding fresh meat and eat dried biscuit? My own dogs would turn their noses up at most dried food as they are fed on raw, though a few 'piggy' ones would eat anything! If the bloke really has to (still can't think why though) feed dried then at least make sure it is a feed of good quality. All cheap (under £30 a bag) feeds are cereal based, not natural food for a dog. Pay more than £30 a bag and most will be meat based which at least should have slightly more appeal to a dog's nose.

[mcass123 6]

tell him to get it onto flesh mate, cant go wrong there

[Thomsons dogs 37]

ALL MY DOGS BEEN ON COMPLETE MEAL SINCE COULD PLUS RAW MEAT COOKED MEAT AND ALSORTS BUT NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH ANY OF MY DOGS AND MOST THE TIME THEY FED ON COMPLETE MEAL £10 AND ONDER A BAG 15KG ALL MY DOGS IN GOOD ORDER CHECK PICS OF THEM ON MY GALLERY

[sandymere 8,263]

ALL MY DOGS BEEN ON COMPLETE MEAL SINCE COULD PLUS RAW MEAT COOKED MEAT AND ALSORTS BUT NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH ANY OF MY DOGS AND MOST THE TIME THEY FED ON COMPLETE MEAL £10 AND ONDER A BAG 15KG ALL MY DOGS IN GOOD ORDER CHECK PICS OF THEM ON MY GALLERY

I'd agree there are differences between feeds but price is not a guide. I also use cheaper brands as the nutrient content is appropriate to the dogs needs which to my mind is what is important rather than some hippy idea of whats natural.

A study in Norway where there are similer brands compared the digestibility of six expensive dry dog food brands [high price (HP)3] with six low price dog food brands [low price (LP)] sold in the Norwegian market. They found

"For all foods, digestible amino acids covered requirements for growing dogs established by the National Research Council".

and concluded,

This study demonstrated that there is no difference in digestibility of nutrients between high-price and low-price dog foods offered in the Norwegian market

Edited December 31, 2009 by sandymere

[skellyb 8]

ALL MY DOGS BEEN ON COMPLETE MEAL SINCE COULD PLUS RAW MEAT COOKED MEAT AND ALSORTS BUT NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH ANY OF MY DOGS AND MOST THE TIME THEY FED ON COMPLETE MEAL £10 AND ONDER A BAG 15KG ALL MY DOGS IN GOOD ORDER CHECK PICS OF THEM ON MY GALLERY

I'd agree there are differences between feeds but price is not a guide. I also use cheaper brands as the nutrient content is appropriate to the dogs needs which to my mind is what is important rather than some hippy idea of whats natural.

A study in Norway where there are similer brands compared the digestibility of six expensive dry dog food brands [high price (HP)3] with six low price dog food brands [low price (LP)] sold in the Norwegian market. They found

"For all foods, digestible amino acids covered requirements for growing dogs established by the National Research Council".

and concluded,

This study demonstrated that there is no difference in digestibility of nutrients between high-price and low-price dog foods offered in the Norwegian market

Why bother quoting crap like this so called study.

Although they were testing DOG food they didn't even feed to dogs, they tested on MINK.

[sandymere 8,263]

ALL MY DOGS BEEN ON COMPLETE MEAL SINCE COULD PLUS RAW MEAT COOKED MEAT AND ALSORTS BUT NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH ANY OF MY DOGS AND MOST THE TIME THEY FED ON COMPLETE MEAL £10 AND ONDER A BAG 15KG ALL MY DOGS IN GOOD ORDER CHECK PICS OF THEM ON MY GALLERY

I'd agree there are differences between feeds but price is not a guide. I also use cheaper brands as the nutrient content is appropriate to the dogs needs which to my mind is what is important rather than some hippy idea of whats natural.

A study in Norway where there are similer brands compared the digestibility of six expensive dry dog food brands [high price (HP)3] with six low price dog food brands [low price (LP)] sold in the Norwegian market. They found

"For all foods, digestible amino acids covered requirements for growing dogs established by the National Research Council".

and concluded,

This study demonstrated that there is no difference in digestibility of nutrients between high-price and low-price dog foods offered in the Norwegian market

Why bother quoting crap like this so called study.

Although they were testing DOG food they didn't even feed to dogs, they tested on MINK.

 

And your point?

What are the differences in digestive tract?

They highlight this in the study and suggest that dogs will have better digestion than mink for the carb part of the diet.

What makes it invalid as a study of nutritional value comparison of expensive versus cheap brands?

[skellyb 8]

ALL MY DOGS BEEN ON COMPLETE MEAL SINCE COULD PLUS RAW MEAT COOKED MEAT AND ALSORTS BUT NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH ANY OF MY DOGS AND MOST THE TIME THEY FED ON COMPLETE MEAL £10 AND ONDER A BAG 15KG ALL MY DOGS IN GOOD ORDER CHECK PICS OF THEM ON MY GALLERY

I'd agree there are differences between feeds but price is not a guide. I also use cheaper brands as the nutrient content is appropriate to the dogs needs which to my mind is what is important rather than some hippy idea of whats natural.

A study in Norway where there are similer brands compared the digestibility of six expensive dry dog food brands [high price (HP)3] with six low price dog food brands [low price (LP)] sold in the Norwegian market. They found

"For all foods, digestible amino acids covered requirements for growing dogs established by the National Research Council".

and concluded,

This study demonstrated that there is no difference in digestibility of nutrients between high-price and low-price dog foods offered in the Norwegian market

Why bother quoting crap like this so called study.

Although they were testing DOG food they didn't even feed to dogs, they tested on MINK.

 

And your point?

What are the differences in digestive tract?

They highlight this in the study and suggest that dogs will have better digestion than mink for the carb part of the diet.

What makes it invalid as a study of nutritional value comparison of expensive versus cheap brands?

The mink lacks a cecum and has a short digestive tract with very limited bacterial activity in the colon. Dogs have little cecal capacity and an unsacculated colon, but some bacterial fermentation takes place in the cecum and colon.

 

Maybe its invalid because it was a study of digestibility NOT nutritional value.

Edited December 31, 2009 by skellyb

[sandymere 8,263]

ALL MY DOGS BEEN ON COMPLETE MEAL SINCE COULD PLUS RAW MEAT COOKED MEAT AND ALSORTS BUT NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH ANY OF MY DOGS AND MOST THE TIME THEY FED ON COMPLETE MEAL £10 AND ONDER A BAG 15KG ALL MY DOGS IN GOOD ORDER CHECK PICS OF THEM ON MY GALLERY

I'd agree there are differences between feeds but price is not a guide. I also use cheaper brands as the nutrient content is appropriate to the dogs needs which to my mind is what is important rather than some hippy idea of whats natural.

A study in Norway where there are similer brands compared the digestibility of six expensive dry dog food brands [high price (HP)3] with six low price dog food brands [low price (LP)] sold in the Norwegian market. They found

"For all foods, digestible amino acids covered requirements for growing dogs established by the National Research Council".

and concluded,

This study demonstrated that there is no difference in digestibility of nutrients between high-price and low-price dog foods offered in the Norwegian market

Why bother quoting crap like this so called study.

Although they were testing DOG food they didn't even feed to dogs, they tested on MINK.

 

And your point?

What are the differences in digestive tract?

They highlight this in the study and suggest that dogs will have better digestion than mink for the carb part of the diet.

What makes it invalid as a study of nutritional value comparison of expensive versus cheap brands?

The mink lacks a cecum and has a short digestive tract with very limited bacterial activity in the colon. Dogs have little cecal capacity and an unsacculated colon, but some bacterial fermentation takes place in the cecum and colon.

 

Maybe its invalid because it was a study of digestibility NOT nutritional value.

 

The variences of the digestive tracts are small in comparison to the similarities and those variences are as the paper states likely to increase the dogs capibilities in digesting this type of food. Nutritonal value depends on digestibility, as stated a lump of wood has nutritional value bit is useless to dogs as it isn't digestable. Nutritional value is on the lables so it's down to the owner to buy one suitable to their dogs needs and as the peice states this is not dependent on price.

[Ned Makim 116]

All this talk about such a simple problem. If the dog won't eat dry food, just let it go hungry until it does. For heavens sake, it's not a child. Dogs eat whatever you put in front of them or they are leading you not the other way around.

Cheers.