how well are your dogs

[adamb20 22]

is any ones dogs trained so they can lamp off the lead even when other dogs are there

[blackstaff 488]

Yep Been training our dog since she was 8 weeks and stil training now.

[DEERMAN 1,020]

is any ones dogs trained so they can lamp off the lead even when other dogs are there

dont everyone do this?

[tdavepat 8]

Thats how I work mine. They work about 10 feet in front of me but always wait for the 'Go' command.

 

I have to continually work with them, telling them to 'Wait' or bringing them into 'Heel', but it's certainly more satistying and effective than using a slip lead.

 

Obedience in the field would be my 'thing', and lamping them off the lead is merely an extension of that.

 

Once they are given the 'Go', I would need a sledgehammer to stop them and that's exactly how I want them.

 

It's not all been plain sailing or the finished article, however, and it has taken a lot of wasted hunting nights to get them here. Even now we have small 'misunderstandings', which result in more training.

 

Dave

[wild rover 548]

is any ones dogs trained so they can lamp off the lead even when other dogs are there

 

When I first started I lamped on a slip, then trained the lurchers to lamp off the lead, hard work at first but perseverance paid off, then worked them off slip all the time, using a hiss to send the lurcher.

Always like a lurcher well trained in day as well, for ferreting and mooching, retrieving a must day and night, anyone tells you different aren't capable.

[adamb20 22]

mine can lamp off the lead when it just me and her, but if another dogs running, especialy a hare or a fox etc she doesnt listen one bit, she somtimes even shakes her colller off. do u not think all off the voice commands scare quarry off too.

[scotty2306 37]

is any ones dogs trained so they can lamp off the lead even when other dogs are there

 

When I first started I lamped on a slip, then trained the lurchers to lamp off the lead, hard work at first but perseverance paid off, then worked them off slip all the time, using a hiss to send the lurcher.

Always like a lurcher well trained in day as well, for ferreting and mooching, retrieving a must day and night, anyone tells you different aren't capable.

my two will lamp off lead i never even taught them they just done it but as for retrieve its no chance,some dogs obviously wont do it as i have tried and better tried to learn them and they show no intrest what so ever i would much rather they would retrieve than work off lead

[adamb20 22]

is any ones dogs trained so they can lamp off the lead even when other dogs are there

 

When I first started I lamped on a slip, then trained the lurchers to lamp off the lead, hard work at first but perseverance paid off, then worked them off slip all the time, using a hiss to send the lurcher.

Always like a lurcher well trained in day as well, for ferreting and mooching, retrieving a must day and night, anyone tells you different aren't capable.

my two will lamp off lead i never even taught them they just done it but as for retrieve its no chance,some dogs obviously wont do it as i have tried and better tried to learn them and they show no intrest what so ever i would much rather they would retrieve than work off lead

 

mine retrieves no probs taught her [bANNED TEXT] she was younger with a dummy. she only 18 month now like. couple month ago there was a clapper right at the end of a striker beam, she jumped over the fence, down a bank, trotted straight up the beam picked it up, trotted back with rabbit and back over the fence. ah was buzzing lol.

[scotty2306 37]

is any ones dogs trained so they can lamp off the lead even when other dogs are there

 

When I first started I lamped on a slip, then trained the lurchers to lamp off the lead, hard work at first but perseverance paid off, then worked them off slip all the time, using a hiss to send the lurcher.

Always like a lurcher well trained in day as well, for ferreting and mooching, retrieving a must day and night, anyone tells you different aren't capable.

my two will lamp off lead i never even taught them they just done it but as for retrieve its no chance,some dogs obviously wont do it as i have tried and better tried to learn them and they show no intrest what so ever i would much rather they would retrieve than work off lead

 

mine retrieves no probs taught her [bANNED TEXT] she was younger with a dummy. she only 18 month now like. couple month ago there was a clapper right at the end of a striker beam, she jumped over the fence, down a bank, trotted straight up the beam picked it up, trotted back with rabbit and back over the fence. ah was buzzing lol.

i got one of mine at 8month old she would not even chase anything thats not live and the other is the same, my 6month old pup im trying to learn now will pick up but run straight past me and run round like a idiot ill have to keep trying. in my eyes retrieving is a must in a lurcher the other two will do it to a extent but not right to my hand, i had a beddy whippet that i sold and he would retrieve anything and he was never shown he just done it

[tdavepat 8]

The voice commands are merely whispers. The louder, spoken ones happen early in the night and when the dog tunes in, it becomes second nature for it to listen and keep looking. I have taught them to return to heel everytime they miss so no commands needed there.

 

I expect that as they continue to learn, very little voice communication will be needed......that's my hope anyway.

 

Retrieval is something that is taught regardless of anything else. It's not the easiest thing to teach properly, as it's against any dogs nature to give up something as precious.

 

I found retrieval live to hand the most difficult task to train. So easy to reverse everything and destroy trust.

 

I have currently one soft mouthed dog who retrieves live to hand and who started out as a hard mouthed non retriever.

 

My second dog is a hard mouthed, part-way retriever who started out as a soft mouthed live retriever.

 

It's an ongoing project, one that will never be completed. But that is part of the challenge and joy of getting small parts of the jigsaw in place.

 

Dave

[scotty2306 37]

The voice commands are merely whispers. The louder, spoken ones happen early in the night and when the dog tunes in, it becomes second nature for it to listen and keep looking. I have taught them to return to heel everytime they miss so no commands needed there.

 

I expect that as they continue to learn, very little voice communication will be needed......that's my hope anyway.

 

Retrieval is something that is taught regardless of anything else. It's not the easiest thing to teach properly, as it's against any dogs nature to give up something as precious.

 

I found retrieval live to hand the most difficult task to train. So easy to reverse everything and destroy trust.

 

I have currently one soft mouthed dog who retrieves live to hand and who started out as a hard mouthed non retriever.

 

My second dog is a hard mouthed, part-way retriever who started out as a soft mouthed live retriever.

 

It's an ongoing project, one that will never be completed. But that is part of the challenge and joy of getting small parts of the jigsaw in place.

 

Dave

my bitch use to retrieve live to hand until my mates jealous dog slipped the lead and started bothering and fighting with mine for the rabbit since that day she wont do it i think if you want the most out of your dog you should only go with you and your dog as bad habbits are easy to pick up and very hard to overcome or atleast until your dog is fully trained

[tdavepat 8]

Ditty Doo, you wouldn't believe the sh1t I went through with that dog.

 

I'm not claiming to be an A1 dog trainer, no way . But I found with him, that if I got close enough to gently relieve him off his take, I could dispatch it and lay it back down in front of him. I'd talk to him, pet him and sooth him and calm him down, not allowing him to touch it until I told him.

 

He'd go for it again, mouthing it and I'd do the same again. Eventually (weeks) I'd allow him to carry it. But there was so many setbacks I nearly wanted to give up.

 

I had read somewhere to try and take that red mist away and in my own way that's all I was trying to do.

 

Just when I thought I didn't have a clue what I was doing, he brought one back. Then another an so on.

 

Maybe it wasn't me and maybe he just matured, I don't really know.

[tdavepat 8]

The voice commands are merely whispers. The louder, spoken ones happen early in the night and when the dog tunes in, it becomes second nature for it to listen and keep looking. I have taught them to return to heel everytime they miss so no commands needed there.

 

I expect that as they continue to learn, very little voice communication will be needed......that's my hope anyway.

 

Retrieval is something that is taught regardless of anything else. It's not the easiest thing to teach properly, as it's against any dogs nature to give up something as precious.

 

I found retrieval live to hand the most difficult task to train. So easy to reverse everything and destroy trust.

 

I have currently one soft mouthed dog who retrieves live to hand and who started out as a hard mouthed non retriever.

 

My second dog is a hard mouthed, part-way retriever who started out as a soft mouthed live retriever.

 

It's an ongoing project, one that will never be completed. But that is part of the challenge and joy of getting small parts of the jigsaw in place.

 

Dave

my bitch use to retrieve live to hand until my mates jealous dog slipped the lead and started bothering and fighting with mine for the rabbit since that day she wont do it i think if you want the most out of your dog you should only go with you and your dog as bad habbits are easy to pick up and very hard to overcome or atleast until your dog is fully trained

 

100% what I believe and I split my dogs into separate nights.