NIGHTSHADOW 3 Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Alright i am new to dogs but i am as keen as hell. I can't get any dogs for a few years max but i am doing all my research and hopefully getting out with a few mates so i can make a good choice. Anyway i want a dog as a good ferreting companion but mostly lamping. My first thoughts were a small lurcher with some collie in? But as i just said i know f**k all. However before the ban what would people consider the minimum size for a dog to take fox? Not to kill outright just hold it until a bull type gets there. Blair has tried to stop young lads like me enjoying field sports but i can still ask Is size a big factor or are we talking about ball size instead Hopefully in a few years i can have my own little pack i can't wait. I have been out and i can't stick to lurchers or terriers so i will be getting a patterdale and i need help choosing the lurcher. Maybe even a Boerboel if i have the room because i f*****g love them and maybe it will help kill some stuff :whistle: Hi I have just got back in with with my 22" bullxgrayhound bitch we have just taken a fox and three rabbit in one hour. in my opinion it the breeding not the size Quote Link to post
Guest Nightwalker Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Hi I have just got back in with with my 22" bullxgrayhound bitch we have just taken a fox and three rabbit in one hour. in my opinion it the breeding not the size Given that this site is heavily monitored by journos, antis and the like, I assume that you are one of this site's non-UK members or you wouldn't be posting about lamping foxes on an open forum. In the UK prior to the recent change in the law I would have suggested an ideal test of your views i.e. that accompanied by a friend with a camera and a good knowledge of first aid you take your 22" dog down to the West Country or across to the Midlands and slip him on a nice big mature red stag. Assuming he even managed to get in contact with it, your friend could post pictures of the remains of the dog once the stag had finished goring and kicking him. If you managed to connect with the stag before he had finished with your dog and if you survived your encounter with 350-400lbs of well armed and angry stag, then once you came out of hospital you could have come back on here and told us whether you still considered a 22" dog to be ideal for large game. Quote Link to post
Guest Nightwalker Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 (edited) Nightwalker what cross of dog was you using when running the big stuff mate? and was it all doubled up or single handed? cheers Joe Over the last 30 years I have run large species of deer with various longdogs including: greyhounds, collie, bull, saluki, bedlington & deerhound crosses. The reds that I saw taken several years ago (and prior to the recent change in the law), were taken in the daytime, on permission by deerhounds and deerhound/greys. I have only seen reds taken in the South West where they are very, very large. I saw several hinds taken single handed and doubled up and a couple of stags taken doubled up. Those stags down South are huge. Deerhounds were bred for reds up North but down South the reds can weigh near twice as much as deer struggling to survive on the open hills and take a lot more stopping, even with that said, I know people who have run them on the open hill in Scotland and they can still take an awful lot of stopping. Of course this is all just of historical interest now though, until we get the Blair junta out and the unjust law repealed none of us are running deer at all and its just rats and rabbits for the big dogs in the UK. Edited September 25, 2006 by Nightwalker Quote Link to post
dickyboy 1 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Nightwalker knows what he's talking about..............i don't have the experience he has but have spent 2 years studying deer of all species, don't claim to know alot but nightwalkers spot on Quote Link to post
NIGHTSHADOW 3 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Hi I have just got back in with with my 22" bullxgrayhound bitch we have just taken a fox and three rabbit in one hour. in my opinion it the breeding not the size Given that this site is heavily monitored by journos, antis and the like, I assume that you are one of this site's non-UK members or you wouldn't be posting about lamping foxes on an open forum. In the UK prior to the recent change in the law I would have suggested an ideal test of your views i.e. that accompanied by a friend with a camera and a good knowledge of first aid you take your 22" dog down to the West Country or across to the Midlands and slip him on a nice big mature red stag. Assuming he even managed to get in contact with it, your friend could post pictures of the remains of the dog once the stag had finished goring and kicking him. If you managed to connect with the stag before he had finished with your dog and if you survived your encounter with 350-400lbs of well armed and angry stag, then once you came out of hospital you could have come back on here and told us whether you still considered a 22" dog to be ideal for large game. nightwalker No1 I was not talking about deer nor was the young lad No2 thanks about your advice ref antis but does life stop because thay say so No3 I am sorry to say good bye as I have only been watching this forum for six week silly me thought it was great to read other peaple comment on a sport I love very much not to be put down for trying to help bye bye Quote Link to post
Guest JOEB Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Do I sense a touch of the old PMT Sally me dear?? :whistle: :whistle: JOEB Quote Link to post
Guest Nightwalker Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Hi I have just got back in with with my 22" bullxgrayhound bitch we have just taken a fox and three rabbit in one hour. in my opinion it the breeding not the size Given that this site is heavily monitored by journos, antis and the like, I assume that you are one of this site's non-UK members or you wouldn't be posting about lamping foxes on an open forum. In the UK prior to the recent change in the law I would have suggested an ideal test of your views i.e. that accompanied by a friend with a camera and a good knowledge of first aid you take your 22" dog down to the West Country or across to the Midlands and slip him on a nice big mature red stag. Assuming he even managed to get in contact with it, your friend could post pictures of the remains of the dog once the stag had finished goring and kicking him. If you managed to connect with the stag before he had finished with your dog and if you survived your encounter with 350-400lbs of well armed and angry stag, then once you came out of hospital you could have come back on here and told us whether you still considered a 22" dog to be ideal for large game. nightwalker No1 I was not talking about deer nor was the young lad No2 thanks about your advice ref antis but does life stop because thay say so No3 I am sorry to say good bye as I have only been watching this forum for six week silly me thought it was great to read other peaple comment on a sport I love very much not to be put down for trying to help bye bye Bye, Bye. Quote Link to post
NIGHTSHADOW 3 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Do I sense a touch of the old PMT Sally me dear?? :whistle: :whistle: JOEB Sally is not who she say she is ??? Quote Link to post
Guest furryferter Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 SEE YA SALLY Quote Link to post
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