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Used both today in a b*st*rd of a place and both were as good as each other,the ortovox box imo is a bit more sturdy than the b&f but the b&f collar is imo more bite proof than the ortovox transmiter.As for the arrow bit ignore them and go with the readings and they both make the same horrid bleap when in use,just adding it was such a sh*ty place we used both boxes(dog had a b&f collar on)to make sure the readings we were getting were right.

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