Just crossed my mind

[whippeter69 88]

Sorry, just a though, i was just sat thinking when this crossed my mind.

 

If you've got a semi-auto chambered to 3inch (76mm) that could only hold 2 in the mag and one in the chamber, if you were to out 65mm carts in the mag, wouldn't you get 3 in making the semi auto 3+1, making the shogun illegal, or am i wring, sorry, just when i think about these things, it really bugs me, i mean iv been sat with the tape measure trying to work it out

Edited December 24, 2009 by whippeter69

[Deker 3,478]

Sorry, just a though, i was just sat thinking when this crossed my mind.

 

If you've got a semi-auto chambered to 3inch (76mm) that could only hold 2 in the mag and one in the chamber, if you were to out 65mm carts in the mag, wouldn't you get 3 in making the semi auto 3+1, making the shogun illegal, or am i wring, sorry, just when i think about these things, it really bugs me, i mean iv been sat with the tape measure trying to work it out

 

You need a new tape measure ...

76+76=152

65+65+65=195

 

Not going to fit..ATB!!

[whippeter69 88]

OK got you on that one. But wouldn't the magazine spring be fully compressed and don't some semi autos have an extra bit of space t stop the spring from being fully compressed

[whippeter69 88]

What i mean is a 3" semi auto would have say 7.5" in the magazine. Making it 190mm divide by 3 = 63 making it a 3+1

[SportingShooter 0]

Go and try it

 

You can't get three 65mm shells in there unless the magazine has been altered in some way since proof as the proof house checks it out

 

Its a nice idea I know, but its still against them statutes

[Deker 3,478]

What i mean is a 3" semi auto would have say 7.5" in the magazine. Making it 190mm divide by 3 = 63 making it a 3+1

 

With a shotgun of current UK spec you are not going to get the extra one in without a bit of engineering.

 

Obviously, in many other countries more carts are allowed, and the manufacturers have a way of dealing with this.

 

Best not to play with it unless you want to go down the FAC route!!

[whippeter69 88]

What i mean is a 3" semi auto would have say 7.5" in the magazine. Making it 190mm divide by 3 = 63 making it a 3+1

 

With a shotgun of current UK spec you are not going to get the extra one in without a bit of engineering.

 

Obviously, in many other countries more carts are allowed, and the manufacturers have a way of dealing with this.

 

Best not to play with it unless you want to go down the FAC route!!

Yess, i have considered an FAC, but i think il wait until im 17, then it will be much easier to buy my own guns and ammo

[wakey87 2]

I have tried this and no you can't

altho you can get 3+1 in a gun chambered 3.5" but doing so is illegal.

[RicW 67]

Stick to Imperial measure! 3" x 2 = 6". You could get 3 x 2" cartridges in tho'. Illegal and not worth the effort but possible.

 

Ric

[Colster 1]

Met some bloke out walking his dog while ferreting a few weeks back and he was bragging about how he could get 4 2 1/2" carts in his Browning. Which I thought was a bit daft considering he didn't know me or my mate, either of us could have been off-duty police or FEO's.

 

Whether you can do it or not, don't... unless you want to have your Shotgun declared Section 1 and then you know you're in the clear and legal.

[rjimmer 4]

I've never had a S/A but I have the impression from others posts that the action of a 3.5" gun, unless it is adjustable, would not work with 2" cartridges.

[RicW 67]

I've never had a S/A but I have the impression from others posts that the action of a 3.5" gun, unless it is adjustable, would not work with 2" cartridges.

 

Likewise, but I think that a 3" gun would just about work, and could take 3 x 2". I am open to correction from those who actually know what they are talking about tho'!

 

Ric

[stubby 175]

is it really worth it, all this for an extra cart and to then be illegal

if you cant hit a bird with 3 carts, will a 4th make any difference

[HUnter_zero 58]

Met some bloke out walking his dog while ferreting a few weeks back and he was bragging about how he could get 4 2 1/2" carts in his Browning.

 

My mate has a browning semi and he can get 3+1, illegal as it may be, he has a restriction cert from the proof house.

 

John

[vwt4 0]

Met some bloke out walking his dog while ferreting a few weeks back and he was bragging about how he could get 4 2 1/2" carts in his Browning.

 

My mate has a browning semi and he can get 3+1, illegal as it may be, he has a restriction cert from the proof house.

 

John

I had a Browning years ago and it was set for the number of cartridge amounts with a metal disc on a steel rod in the cartridge tube ie 2+1 for normal shotgun if you turned it to fac you could slide the disc further up the rod allowing to fit more shells and it was proofed and set at this, if you had a normal shotgun licence you moved the disc at your own peril and you became an illegal firearm holder.

I also had 2 Beretta semi autos chambered for 3'' magnum, you could put a 3and a half in them but once you fired the first one it would jam trying to recycle the second one, because of the lengh of the crimp, we got around this by getting 3 half magnum 56gram cartridges from John Forsey guns which had a rolled crimp with a little clear plastic disc in the end and these cycled fine we were then concerned with the proofing of the barrel as it was only proofed for 3 inch cartridges so we bought a 3 and half magnum baikal semi auto from Edward brothers and these guns would fire anything.

We used the guns for goose shooting,and occasional fox,my opinion for what its worth is generally by the time you have unloaded 3 shots flying birds or running animals have become out of range for a fourth cartridge, my shooting buddy had an fac semi auto and he rarely got the fourth shot off.