redeye jedi 39 Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 hello ive just got my first ferret last week and its a jill and ive heard you have to mate them or they die is this true or just a myth cheers as this is your first ferret IMO the best idea would be to put a sniped hob over her this year then once you've got more experience, if it suits you and you can find homes for the kits then breed from her next time. ATB REDEYE. Top advice mate...give yourself a pat on the back.... Darryl pat... pat.... thanks mate. Quote Link to post
anton 0 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 how do you no when your jill is in season ov just got one yesterday hi Rob mate this is what she will look like when in season , the vets a sheriffe hill , do jill jabs or FERRET PORN!!!! LOL :clapper: Quote Link to post
johnmac666 2 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 how do you no when your jill is in season ov just got one yesterday hi Rob mate this is what she will look like when in season , the vets a sheriffe hill , do jill jabs or FERRET PORN!!!! LOL :clapper: can you imagine the neighbours phoning the police saying there is a man next door taking pictures of ferrets pee thing lol, you can also get her "Implanted ", this is a new ish procedure which is similar to having a microchip put in, i have just had my Hob & Jill implanted about a week ago, costs £37 approx lasts 18 months , Jill jab is £12, having her neutered will cost a similar price, both have pros & cons, at the moment though there is only a little research & data availible about implants but looks promising, just make sure you do regular health checks on your ferret & you will easily notice any changes, good luck & congrats on getting your first ferret they grow on you, i started with 2 & have 4 now, regards ..john Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Ey up The main reason for jills to die if not brought out of season is anemia, I lost one to this a while back and swore it would never happen again.For years I had a big vasectomised hob and never had a bit of bother. He died (a very ,very happy old age ) and my new hob will line my jill this year and all going well will be snipped after that. Only hassle with this is having to work a ferret thats worth aboot 60 quid Not breeding from a jill may cause problems later on so my advice would be to get her thorugh this season and then think about breeding from her maybe next year. Good luck and if anyone has any views on my advise or experience ,please share as I am always willing to learn. Cheers all Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 When using vasectomised hob or jill jab why isnt anyone mentioning jills coming back into season after 6week in my experience, Am I the only one to have this happen? Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I have only used the jill jab once and that was on the anaemic ferret mentioned above to try and get her out off season asap.She died right after it and although I know this was my fault I have never used the jab since so cant comment on it too much. I leave my snipped hob in with the jills and yes I have seen them come back into season , seen this a few times actually , but with him in there they just come out off season again after being lined and I have never seen any ill effects of this. I have also seen a phantom pregnancy (was in with a snipped hob that was proven sterile) that went full term and the jill gave birth to a small fetus type item ??? strange and only seen it once. Cheers Quote Link to post
The one 8,503 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 When using vasectomised hob or jill jab why isnt anyone mentioning jills coming back into season after 6week in my experience, Am I the only one to have this happen? Y.I.S Leeview Thats why i prefer a snipped hob mate as for the last couple of years my jills have returnded back into season 3 and 4 times each Quote Link to post
slingshot82 32 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 If you arent wanting to breed the jill, I would say put a neutered hob over the back of her when she comes in season. You may need to do this a couple of times per breeding season because in my experience, they sometimes come into season more than once. Some people get two litters of kits in the 1 season from their jills but its not reccommended as it takes too much out of the poor things. ATB buddy Quote Link to post
Moe 108 Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 If you arent wanting to breed the jill, I would say put a neutered hob over the back of her when she comes in season. You may need to do this a couple of times per breeding season because in my experience, they sometimes come into season more than once. Some people get two litters of kits in the 1 season from their jills but its not reccommended as it takes too much out of the poor things. ATB buddy it will have to be a vasectomised hob not nuetered,as these have no sex drive .i once took a ferret for the snip, and it came back neutered,wasnt best pleasedcalled the vet a useless ,and after a lot of arguing got another done free,and did not pay for first. Quote Link to post
slingshot82 32 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 If you arent wanting to breed the jill, I would say put a neutered hob over the back of her when she comes in season. You may need to do this a couple of times per breeding season because in my experience, they sometimes come into season more than once. Some people get two litters of kits in the 1 season from their jills but its not reccommended as it takes too much out of the poor things. ATB buddy it will have to be a vasectomised hob not nuetered,as these have no sex drive .i once took a ferret for the snip, and it came back neutered,wasnt best pleasedcalled the vet a useless ,and after a lot of arguing got another done free,and did not pay for first. Didnt know how to spell vasectomised lol, so just put neutered. Thanks. Quote Link to post
farmerkev09 105 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 i have a pet ferret that i dont work she is a small jill and she is in a large cage at the side of the kennels as far away from the other ferrets as possible and i have never breed her and she is 3 year old all i can say is keep her and the cage clean very clean while she is in season and you should be ok or i just have been lucky Quote Link to post
farmerkev09 105 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 mate the jills with a hob that has been neutered and it should bring the jill out of season this will then reduce the risk of death Quote Link to post
Coneytrappr 30 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 i have a pet ferret that i dont work she is a small jill and she is in a large cage at the side of the kennels as far away from the other ferrets as possible and i have never breed her and she is 3 year old all i can say is keep her and the cage clean very clean while she is in season and you should be ok or i just have been lucky Why do you keep them seperate mate? Quote Link to post
Mick C. 229 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 I'll just add, jills dont automatically die if not mated or given a jab years ago more jills died, but I reckon this came about by the conditions they were kept in, left in dirty hutches and fed on milk and bread, resulting in diahorria, when the jill was in season, the vulva swells, being close to the ground its a good entry point for infection, thus jills died and we got the "old wives tale" that unmated jills die we now look after our ferts alot better, feed them a decent diet and keep cages clean, therefore jills are less likely to get infections to prove a point, my daughter has two pet jills living indoors, large hutch, fed only on dry food, plus loads of other "human consumables" now its there 3rd year, the 1st we had the jill jabs done, the 2nd year we never bothered, yet they are both running around quite happy as I type Yes i think you are probebly right. I have not bred my ferrets in the past and they seemed to be ok.Must be a bit of a discomfort when they are well in season though. Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 (edited) Yup A clean cage is a given anyway this will help avoid infection while in season There are 2 points to this. If you do not breed from a ferret there may be problems with her in later life, Hips etc If you do not do something to bring her out of season, she keeps losing blood and this may lead to Anemea which can kill them. Loads of people are happy with the jab ,you may need more than one jab per year if she has more than one bout "in season" My view is a Vasectomised (not neutered) hob is the best way but not every one has this choice. You may wish to hope for the best , but in my view ,if you do this you MUST keep an eye on her and keep checking her for signs of ill health. Lethargy,,gone off her food, pale couloring of the skin(not always easy to spot on a polecat type , and a sure sign of blood loss problems is a blue tinge to her gums. I awlays hate to sound like a scare mungerer, it`s not as bad as it sounds written down. But if your new to ferrets it`s alway best to have as much info as possible. Good luck and let us now how you get on Edited February 21, 2010 by Rake aboot Quote Link to post
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