im sick of these idiots

[rabitin girl 16]

There are some owners who will never make a good dog. Those are the ones who are serial dog peddlars.

 

They will keep getting shot because their dog can never measure up to their mates' dogs or to the dog stories on here.

 

They could have potentially the best dog in the country in their hands, but because of their inadequacy as trainers, the dog is ruined and passed on. The next dog steps up to the mark and the same fate awaits it.

 

The ones frequently with dogs for sale or swap on here are those sh1t dog handlers that I am alluding to.

 

Dave

 

 

Spot on

[comanche 2,937]

So to everyone who says a dogs for life etc, if you own a dog, you done evverything you could with it and it still didnt do the job is was bred to do, you would keep it? Might aswell own a shitzu if thats the case.

 

Come on get real it cost the same to feed a bad'un as it does a good'un and if your attatuide is "its the best becuase its mine", well that speaks volumes and im glad i dont run the dogs with you.

Nothing wrong with rehoming a dog somewhere where it will actually be welcome and loved despite its percieved shortcomings .One man's meat is another's poison and all that .

The problem is that so many people expect instant success just because they have bought the trendy cross of the moment . The one that everyone says is the bee's knees and that all other kinds of lurcher are just not up to it.

How often have we heard something like , "I had a saluki x whatever but it was cr*p so I swapped it for a beddie x grey x bull [bANNED TEXT] my mate was gettin rid of ".

These gems of dog ownership wisdom coming from an 18 year old lad and refering to a couple of 14 month old pups ..Mere babes!

With the best will in the world not everyone is suited to dog ownership and where working dogs like lurchers and terriers are concerned some owners can find themselves outclassed at every turn by the dimmest puppy.

Some people even make a mess of training a point and shoot ,sliplead dog. Others could be given a perfectly trained ,top performing dog as a gift from the Gods and still would,nt be happy and would probably end up messing the dog up and swapping it for a playstation .

The strange thing is that habitual dog swappers are often the sort of owner who has very simple needs in the way of a working dog .

The sort of people who genuinly want an all- round,multi-tasking dog are the sort of people who put in the time,overcome problems and form a real bond with their dog that lasts a lifetime.

But for some the grass will always be greener -especially if they've already messed up their own lawn by playing football on it before the seed had been given a chance to take root ...

[Alaunt 4]

not all dogs make the grade and sadly it costs just as much to feed and good one then a bad one

[killa-combo 142]

right i have being coming on here a few year now and the amount of people who have got rid of dogs because they getting a new one is unreal my lurcher isnt the best but i keep her non the less a dog is for life man

people dont have room for shit dogs in there kennels, in some peoples eyes a shit dog is not worth feeding, a good dog earns its keep imo

[littletimmy 71]

So to everyone who says a dogs for life etc, if you own a dog, you done evverything you could with it and it still didnt do the job is was bred to do, you would keep it? Might aswell own a shitzu if thats the case.

 

Come on get real it cost the same to feed a bad'un as it does a good'un and if your attatuide is "its the best becuase its mine", well that speaks volumes and im glad i dont run the dogs with you.

Nothing wrong with rehoming a dog somewhere where it will actually be welcome and loved despite its percieved shortcomings .One man's meat is another's poison and all that .

The problem is that so many people expect instant success just because they have bought the trendy cross of the moment . The one that everyone says is the bee's knees and that all other kinds of lurcher are just not up to it.

How often have we heard something like , "I had a saluki x whatever but it was cr*p so I swapped it for a beddie x grey x bull [bANNED TEXT] my mate was gettin rid of ".

These gems of dog ownership wisdom coming from an 18 year old lad and refering to a couple of 14 month old pups ..Mere babes!

With the best will in the world not everyone is suited to dog ownership and where working dogs like lurchers and terriers are concerned some owners can find themselves outclassed at every turn by the dimmest puppy.

Some people even make a mess of training a point and shoot ,sliplead dog. Others could be given a perfectly trained ,top performing dog as a gift from the Gods and still would,nt be happy and would probably end up messing the dog up and swapping it for a playstation .

The strange thing is that habitual dog swappers are often the sort of owner who has very simple needs in the way of a working dog .

The sort of people who genuinly want an all- round,multi-tasking dog are the sort of people who put in the time,overcome problems and form a real bond with their dog that lasts a lifetime.

But for some the grass will always be greener -especially if they've already messed up their own lawn by playing football on it before the seed had been given a chance to take root ...

 

So what is your point? You replied to my post but never answered the question or referred to anything i posted within your response???

 

As for the age comment what aload of shite. Plenty of stupid older fellas in the game too. All age means is one step closer to death ...

[all.rounder 3]

There are some owners who will never make a good dog. Those are the ones who are serial dog peddlars.

 

They will keep getting shot because their dog can never measure up to their mates' dogs or to the dog stories on here.

 

They could have potentially the best dog in the country in their hands, but because of their inadequacy as trainers, the dog is ruined and passed on. The next dog steps up to the mark and the same fate awaits it.

 

The ones frequently with dogs for sale or swap on here are those sh1t dog handlers that I am alluding to.

 

Dave

spot on mate you said it all.

[irishnut 297]

ive had some great dogs and some useless twats that just wouldnt work, these useless dogs i've had were given to people as pets, never as working dogs, i always neutered them before giving away to stop a crap line,

only ever given 2 dogs away, both springer spaniels, excellent obedience for a pet, but they were both hard mouthed, chased game and hated water, but were perfect for pets, my aunt still has hers and my cousins dog got hit on road 4 or 5 years ago.

most real dog men put too much work into a dog to pts, just because they dont work, but if it was dangerous or totally untrainable i'd put it down, even though its hard putting a pal of 1 1/2 or 2 years down

Edited December 20, 2009 by irishnut

[SEAN3513 7]

the problem is that to many people are trying, and succeeding to ONLY make money from breeding, there are not interested in breeding lines, where it goes, or for what purpose.

 

we all know how cute and irresistable new pups are, whatever the breed.......and this is what the "peddlers" play on to sell.

 

if you buy a good dog from known lines, you have a better chance of owning a decent dog, but people insist on buying "multi cross" dogs expect them to perform from day one without any input or training.....then re-sell them because "they dont have time" or "too many dogs" and the old favourite " selling for a mate".

 

 

you have NO rights as a dog owner.........ONLY responsibilities and the sooner people take this on board the better imo.

 

i love dogs.....but have no interest in breeding......any dog i have gets spayed/neutered.........simply because accidents happen.......and could i live with having to get rid of the pups, to people i dont know, to make a quick buck, or even give them away and not know their future??????......certainly not.

 

regards

 

sean

[chimp 299]

if the dogs a jacker i would say get rid and start again and when i say get rid of it i dont mean stick it in the 'for sale' section on thl.

 

if you got a dog to work and cant do the job why have in your kennels? working dogs are a tool for the job

[comanche 2,937]

So to everyone who says a dogs for life etc, if you own a dog, you done evverything you could with it and it still didnt do the job is was bred to do, you would keep it? Might aswell own a shitzu if thats the case.

 

Come on get real it cost the same to feed a bad'un as it does a good'un and if your attatuide is "its the best becuase its mine", well that speaks volumes and im glad i dont run the dogs with you.

Nothing wrong with rehoming a dog somewhere where it will actually be welcome and loved despite its percieved shortcomings .One man's meat is another's poison and all that .

The problem is that so many people expect instant success just because they have bought the trendy cross of the moment . The one that everyone says is the bee's knees and that all other kinds of lurcher are just not up to it.

How often have we heard something like , "I had a saluki x whatever but it was cr*p so I swapped it for a beddie x grey x bull [bANNED TEXT] my mate was gettin rid of ".

These gems of dog ownership wisdom coming from an 18 year old lad and refering to a couple of 14 month old pups ..Mere babes!

With the best will in the world not everyone is suited to dog ownership and where working dogs like lurchers and terriers are concerned some owners can find themselves outclassed at every turn by the dimmest puppy.

Some people even make a mess of training a point and shoot ,sliplead dog. Others could be given a perfectly trained ,top performing dog as a gift from the Gods and still would,nt be happy and would probably end up messing the dog up and swapping it for a playstation .

The strange thing is that habitual dog swappers are often the sort of owner who has very simple needs in the way of a working dog .

The sort of people who genuinly want an all- round,multi-tasking dog are the sort of people who put in the time,overcome problems and form a real bond with their dog that lasts a lifetime.

But for some the grass will always be greener -especially if they've already messed up their own lawn by playing football on it before the seed had been given a chance to take root ...

 

So what is your point? You replied to my post but never answered the question or referred to anything i posted within your response???

 

As for the age comment what aload of shite. Plenty of stupid older fellas in the game too. All age means is one step closer to death ...

Little Timmy before gettin all wound up please re read my post . I think you will find that I referered to what you posted in the FIRST SENTENCE.

As for my comments about age ." I was actually recollecting an actual conversation that did involve 14 month old pups and an 18 year old "expert".

But I will agree totally with you on one point Well you are right there are some silly old duffers about after which I shall mentally shake hands with you and agree to differ. Most of em started out as silly young duffers and never learnt a bloody thing from their years of mistakes . I wish you luck with your daily journey towards death

[Wild_and_Irish 11]

The fella who sold me my pup offered me my money back and to take it back if it wasn't catchin rabbits after a year, no guessin that the right thing would have been done but he didn't need to say it,

[Fat-Ferret 857]

There are some owners who will never make a good dog. Those are the ones who are serial dog peddlars.

 

They will keep getting shot because their dog can never measure up to their mates' dogs or to the dog stories on here.

 

They could have potentially the best dog in the country in their hands, but because of their inadequacy as trainers, the dog is ruined and passed on. The next dog steps up to the mark and the same fate awaits it.

 

The ones frequently with dogs for sale or swap on here are those sh1t dog handlers that I am alluding to.

 

Dave

 

Tdavepat has an example of a dog, that if any other person had it, it would most likely have been sold 15 times by now...The Black Pocket Rocket!

 

It is nothing other than time, patience skill and a complete refusal to give up on him, that the dog has turned as he has...And from what I have seen, It is only in the past few months this has happened, a few months that wouldnt have came for anyone else as the dog would have been sold on. But Dave stuck with him and it has paid off ten fold.

 

From a head strong, "Do as I please" to a thoroughly obedient, patient and clever rabbiting dog, I believe there is a lot more to come from him. And hats off to Dave, as I know, not a lot of others would have stuck it out like he did.

 

[greg64 2,806]

if the dogs a jacker i would say get rid and start again and when i say get rid of it i dont mean stick it in the 'for sale' section on thl.

 

if you got a dog to work and cant do the job why have in your kennels? working dogs are a tool for the job

if the dogs a jacker get rid, fair enough,if you have spent a lot of time and effort on it,but a lot of people enter there dogs far to early in my opinion,and a dog the jacks at 14 month,is not the same dog at two or three years

[FightTheBan 1,147]

People who breed their dogs and then hand them out to every tom dick and harry, whether they turn up at the door with their socks tucked into their trackies or not, are just as much to blame as the lads themselves.

Some people like the idea of having a kennel full, and shift them on as they please. 90% of the pups bred advertised as 'good working lines' or '110%' arent worth their weight in shite.

 

Another thing that pisses me off is people advertising 'dog wanted, doing its job'. If you havent the time or patience to bring on a pup and get a bond with it, you arent a real dog man, you are a pretender.

 

If only good dogs were bred and only distributed to the right kind of dog men/women, the game wouldnt be so messed up.

[Hannah4181 260]

Be it workers/pets or companions . . .. ALL dogs deserve common decency in training, nutrition, understanding and respect. My dogs are pets that work a bit, if they never worked again it wouldn't be the end of my world. They will grow old and cranky with me whatever happens.

 

I do understand however that for some a "working dog", is NEEDED for a job, if the dog is unable to fulfill its purpose once all the training and understanding has been tried, then of course the dog needs to be dealt with. I genuinely believe if its the only option then culling a dog which you've cared for, trained,and bonded with must be one of the hardest acts to carry out, but one which i whole heartedly respect.