im sick of these idiots

[#1poacher 8]

hi all i went and bought my dog 11 yrs ago now and he was 6 wk when i got him and he still catches for me no probs

[higgins 75]

a had a pure bred grew for just over 5 year an while she nipped a few rabbits she was pretty much useless as a hunting dog !! but a stuck wi her an she was in better condition than most lurchers av seen !!! she was my big lassie an a stuck wi her cos a loved her an wanted to repay her loyalty to me by being a good master to her an giving her the best of everything !!!!! although useless for hunting she fu "*in tried her heart out !! an a couldnt ask for anymore from her !!!! RIP big GB.....

just the companionship and loyalty is worth more in my book,don't get me wrong

i want my dogs to work but it has to be they want to work not because i force it,i would never have a dog that has to forced to work,but the dog genuinely 100% loves working,that's all i ask,but i value them even more if they are loyal and good companions for they never ask much from me and many a dog has made life worth living for just being there when humans do your head in,

Higgins.

[comanche 3,032]

not all dogs make the grade and sadly it costs just as much to feed and good one then a bad one

 

100% right and I know what type I would rather be feeding.

 

If I buy a puppy and he is not up to the job I bought him for when he gets older, should I have to keep this dog for his whole life time? No! I bought him as a working dog and if he dont work what good is he to me??

And before everyone blames the owner for the dog not working right, that is the true in some cases but not all.

I definately wouldnt keep a working dog that wasnt up to his job out of sentiment, if you have a dog that is a good worker and a pet then alls well and good, but at the end of the day if you want a worker it has to beable to work to warrant keeping it, its not a pet its meant to be your worker you have to beable to differentiate between the two.

Many a good dog has been sold and bought, surely thats how people aquire them. And there are many dogs sold because of genuine reasons.

I am more concerned about the kids left out on the streets getting into trouble while their parents are too busy working, drunk or drugged up somewhere, than I am about the odd dog coming into the wrong hands.

But thats me...

Very valid points .Just as some pet dogs would be happier in a working home some working dogs might be well suited to being passed on to good pet homes .Gun dog trainers looking for their next trial champion often sell-on dogs that do'nt make the grade but are still good enough for the average shooting man.

But if one of your dogs failed to make the grade would you try to find a good non-working home ,pass the pup on with honest advice about his failings but point out that at least it was obedient due to the hard work you'd already put in,would the dog be so messed in the head that only a bullet would save it and its subsequent owners years of misery , or would it be?:

 

"Dog (enter made-up pedigree consisting of fashionable breeds of the day) for sale, (enter price that is just low enough to attract attention without appearing desperate ).Just ready for starting .No time/work forces sale etc Etc ."

PS "consider swap (play station?)".

 

That's the difference between someone who has genuinly put their best into a working dog only to have it not make the grade and someone who basically thought that simply exchanging cash for a pup was an instant gateway to owning a "rabbit -killing machine ,capable of taking the "heaviest of quarry" - "pre ban of course",(do people really think those two phrases equate to some sort of get out of jail card ? )with instant obedience and let's not forget plenty of "drive".At nine months of age of course! .

[BULLDOUG 199]

a had a pure bred grew for just over 5 year an while she nipped a few rabbits she was pretty much useless as a hunting dog !! but a stuck wi her an she was in better condition than most lurchers av seen !!! she was my big lassie an a stuck wi her cos a loved her an wanted to repay her loyalty to me by being a good master to her an giving her the best of everything !!!!! although useless for hunting she fu "*in tried her heart out !! an a couldnt ask for anymore from her !!!! RIP big GB.....

just the companionship and loyalty is worth more in my book,don't get me wrong

i want my dogs to work but it has to be they want to work not because i force it,i would never have a dog that has to forced to work,but the dog genuinely 100% loves working,that's all i ask,but i value them even more if they are loyal and good companions for they never ask much from me and many a dog has made life worth living for just being there when humans do your head in,

Higgins.

 

 

The thing is buddy, once youve made that real bond with a dog they will work themselves into the ground for you, not many a man will see there dog give you there all (only a dog man)

[BULLDOUG 199]

not all dogs make the grade and sadly it costs just as much to feed and good one then a bad one

 

100% right and I know what type I would rather be feeding.

 

If I buy a puppy and he is not up to the job I bought him for when he gets older, should I have to keep this dog for his whole life time? No! I bought him as a working dog and if he dont work what good is he to me??

And before everyone blames the owner for the dog not working right, that is the true in some cases but not all.

I definately wouldnt keep a working dog that wasnt up to his job out of sentiment, if you have a dog that is a good worker and a pet then alls well and good, but at the end of the day if you want a worker it has to beable to work to warrant keeping it, its not a pet its meant to be your worker you have to beable to differentiate between the two.

Many a good dog has been sold and bought, surely thats how people aquire them. And there are many dogs sold because of genuine reasons.

I am more concerned about the kids left out on the streets getting into trouble while their parents are too busy working, drunk or drugged up somewhere, than I am about the odd dog coming into the wrong hands.

But thats me...

Very valid points .Just as some pet dogs would be happier in a working home some working dogs might be well suited to being passed on to good pet homes .Gun dog trainers looking for their next trial champion often sell-on dogs that do'nt make the grade but are still good enough for the average shooting man.

But if one of your dogs failed to make the grade would you try to find a good non-working home ,pass the pup on with honest advice about his failings but point out that at least it was obedient due to the hard work you'd already put in,would the dog be so messed in the head that only a bullet would save it and its subsequent owners years of misery , or would it be?:

 

"Dog (enter made-up pedigree consisting of fashionable breeds of the day) for sale, (enter price that is just low enough to attract attention without appearing desperate ).Just ready for starting .No time/work forces sale etc Etc ."

PS "consider swap (play station?)".

 

That's the difference between someone who has genuinly put their best into a working dog only to have it not make the grade and someone who basically thought that simply exchanging cash for a pup was an instant gateway to owning a "rabbit -killing machine ,capable of taking the "heaviest of quarry" - "pre ban of course",(do people really think those two phrases equate to some sort of get out of jail card ? )with instant obedience and let's not forget plenty of "drive".At nine months of age of course! .

 

 

To some a dog is a meer commodity, these people i pity because they are blind.

[pink head 28]

right i have being coming on here a few year now and the amount of people who have got rid of dogs because they getting a new one is unreal my lurcher isnt the best but i keep her non the less a dog is for life man

if its no good it got to go. why keep a dog and waste your time. bang it and get something tidy in your kennel

 

Very Macho "BANG IT AND GET ANOTHER:? Trouble is 9 times out of ten these ruined dogs are not being culled there being passed from pillow to post and IMO this is abuse.

 

If your Macho enough to put the cur dog to sleep then go for it, but the so called hard men very often find there not as tough as they thought when it comes to culling there dog and pass the problem on, which IMO is usually a worse fete for the poor dogs.

 

 

In my experience in life i have never come across a more loyal friend than my dogs, so i repay this loyalty by showing them the same respect.

 

ATB THE BULLDOUG

who put 10p in you. ive got a 8yr old russel in my run that is retired and will die in my run. but if she hadnt been any good she wouldnt of been in there. or i wouldnt sell a shit dog to some mug on here.

[BULLDOUG 199]

right i have being coming on here a few year now and the amount of people who have got rid of dogs because they getting a new one is unreal my lurcher isnt the best but i keep her non the less a dog is for life man

if its no good it got to go. why keep a dog and waste your time. bang it and get something tidy in your kennel

 

Very Macho "BANG IT AND GET ANOTHER:? Trouble is 9 times out of ten these ruined dogs are not being culled there being passed from pillow to post and IMO this is abuse.

 

If your Macho enough to put the cur dog to sleep then go for it, but the so called hard men very often find there not as tough as they thought when it comes to culling there dog and pass the problem on, which IMO is usually a worse fete for the poor dogs.

 

 

In my experience in life i have never come across a more loyal friend than my dogs, so i repay this loyalty by showing them the same respect.

 

ATB THE BULLDOUG

who put 10p in you. ive got a 8yr old russel in my run that is retired and will die in my run. but if she hadnt been any good she wouldnt of been in there. or i wouldnt sell a shit dog to some mug on here.

 

 

And your point?

[comanche 3,032]

Dog and daughter .Pictures taken ten years apart but was there any doubt that this pup was with us for good? -no

Edited December 19, 2009 by comanche

[higgins 75]

Do you all remember the terrier song?There should be another song similar to that

to cover all the breeds and emphasis should be put on loyalty,companionship

and bonding,maybe there are a few budding poets on here that could pen an immortal

dog song,might save the world of a few misplaced dogs,

Higgins.

[littletimmy 71]

So to everyone who says a dogs for life etc, if you own a dog, you done evverything you could with it and it still didnt do the job is was bred to do, you would keep it? Might aswell own a shitzu if thats the case.

 

Come on get real it cost the same to feed a bad'un as it does a good'un and if your attatuide is "its the best becuase its mine", well that speaks volumes and im glad i dont run the dogs with you.

[BULLDOUG 199]

So to everyone who says a dogs for life etc, if you own a dog, you done evverything you could with it and it still didnt do the job is was bred to do, you would keep it? Might aswell own a shitzu if thats the case.

 

Come on get real it cost the same to feed a bad'un as it does a good'un and if your attatuide is "its the best becuase its mine", well that speaks volumes and im glad i dont run the dogs with you.

 

 

If the dogs no good then put it in the ground and take responsibility for your own misfortune and dont pass it on to the next man so he can do the same after breeding the arse out of it, then the poor dog has a litter by a different owner every 6 months til its f****d then tied to a post.

 

 

A DOG MUST BE FIT FOR PURPOSE YES

[littletimmy 71]

now whose being macho

 

Agree with that though, pet home or pts

[tdavepat 8]

There are some owners who will never make a good dog. Those are the ones who are serial dog peddlars.

 

They will keep getting shot because their dog can never measure up to their mates' dogs or to the dog stories on here.

 

They could have potentially the best dog in the country in their hands, but because of their inadequacy as trainers, the dog is ruined and passed on. The next dog steps up to the mark and the same fate awaits it.

 

The ones frequently with dogs for sale or swap on here are those sh1t dog handlers that I am alluding to.

 

Dave

[BULLDOUG 199]

now whose being macho

 

Agree with that though, pet home or pts

 

Just putting my chest back in lol. Just hate seeing dogs being abused

[BULLDOUG 199]

There are some owners who will never make a good dog. Those are the ones who are serial dog peddlars.

 

They will keep getting shot because their dog can never measure up to their mates' dogs or to the dog stories on here.

 

They could have potentially the best dog in the country in their hands, but because of their inadequacy as trainers, the dog is ruined and passed on. The next dog steps up to the mark and the same fate awaits it.

 

The ones frequently with dogs for sale or swap on here are those sh1t dog handlers that I am alluding to.

 

Dave

 

Same here