WILF 46,485 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) I dont want to march with anyone.......I probaly wont like most of you! you dont want to secure the future of our sports...? No.......folk will either continue to do what they do or they wont, hopefully most of them wont. A complete repeal now would be a free for all for every little chav and scroat and there teams of stupid mates.... Edited December 17, 2009 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dso88 15 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 count me in if its close enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,796 Posted December 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Well ladies and gentlemen I've just got off the phone to the head of press at BASC. A nice chap with time to help, here's his advice...... A march would be best served after the election due to so many MP's standing down across the parties. This means we would only be protesting to MP's on their way out not in so are inclined to do nothing. So the time of the march would be after 10/06/2010 at the latest Write letters to all local MPs and up-coming candidates asking their views on hunting, state your views on the letters. Request a reply, the more mail in their boxes the more they feel pressured to do something. There will be a site which will have all candidates names on and their constituencies so letters can be fired off when this is ready. Conservatives if they get in may offer what is known as a free vote on the act, this is why we must pressure the local MPs with letters to make them hear as it is they who will be voting. Just to add.... This government have banned; the right to unauthorised demonstration in the capital. A woman was bundled off a couple of weeks ago for reading out (quietly) the names of the war dead outside parliment. She was charged under the prevention of terrorism ACT. The right to have a go slow was also banned on all of Britains roads after the truckers fuel protests. We will have too liaise with the police to arrange times, routes and dates which will be vetted and sanctioned or referred for changes. If they don't like it they produce an act that rides over us roughshod AND WE ALLOWED IT I've got a load more info and things that need to be done before this gets off the ground and so does every single person who wants to march get those letters fired off now and later. Kie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) I don't know wether my experience or lack of it is a factor? I think a march is a good idea depending on its focus and emphasis If anyone is hoping a march will help repeal any anti hunt legislation, I think they're being a wee bit niave? If the march was seen as a celebration of working dogs involved in centuries old rural pursuits!! and the climax of any march was to hand in a petion in support of hunting with dogs!! I think it could be seen as more acceptable to an ignorant and ill-informed public? I think the emphasis should be, after years of draconian legislation that "Were' still here! In larger numbers than ever! Our way of life still goes on! and thousands of us still work our dogs in the traditional way and your legislation on the whole has been unworkable and for the majority un-enforcable? therefore its a bad law? that! had bugger all to do with animal welfare it was aimed at what was/is, seemed as an eletist group (some may say?) eg: the mounted packs and the rest of us were also discriminated against without thought? I think the slogan should be "STILL HERE and STILL HUNTING" There's a tradition in these Isles of sticking two fingers up to adversity! lets just do that and let them see we'll never stop or give up our dogs or lifestyle!!!!!!!! Tom They're side tracking you? and want your support for their campaigns, rather than the other way about!!They also have a blinkered view about how politics work in other parts of the UK? The Tory's will never be a majority party here in Scotland and our anti hunting legislation is decided by a Scottish Parliement. I can't see The Countryside Alliance promoting the campaign below here in Scotland, Tom Again!! they want your suport to strengthen the MFHA's posistion but the will not help out at grass roots level (Feckin Tossers) Tom Kieran I think we spoke briefly yesterday. At the moment I would suggest that you consider putting your, and your friends, efforts behind the Vote OK operation which is supporting pro hunting candidates and MPs in marginal constituencies. What we need above all is a government which is committed to repealing the hunting act and a house of commons with a majority of support for repeal. Vote Oks website is here: http://www.vote-ok.co.uk/ Does come across a little condescending doesn't it???? FT your a man of experience in these matters,is there a better way of protesting or a way of getting the best possible result,what would you suggest? Higgins. Edited December 17, 2009 by Foxgun Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sexy_Shot 5 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 I Cannot say i agree more, allthough i wouldnt know what to say to my local mp im willing to give it a go, and maybe invite him to a days shooting on a local beat Cheers Trevor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
higgins 75 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Well ladies and gentlemen I've just got off the phone to the head of press at BASC. A nice chap with time to help, here's his advice...... A march would be best served after the election due to so many MP's standing down across the parties. This means we would only be protesting to MP's on their way out not in so are inclined to do nothing. So the time of the march would be after 10/06/2010 at the latest Write letters to all local MPs and up-coming candidates asking their views on hunting, state your views on the letters. Request a reply, the more mail in their boxes the more they feel pressured to do something. There will be a site which will have all candidates names on and their constituencies so letters can be fired off when this is ready. Conservatives if they get in may offer what is known as a free vote on the act, this is why we must pressure the local MPs with letters to make them hear as it is they who will be voting. Just to add.... This government have banned; the right to unauthorised demonstration in the capital. A woman was bundled off a couple of weeks ago for reading out (quietly) the names of the war dead outside parliment. She was charged under the prevention of terrorism ACT. The right to have a go slow was also banned on all of Britains roads after the truckers fuel protests. We will have too liaise with the police to arrange times, routes and dates which will be vetted and sanctioned or referred for changes. If they don't like it they produce an act that rides over us roughshod AND WE ALLOWED IT I've got a load more info and things that need to be done before this gets off the ground and so does every single person who wants to march get those letters fired off now and later. Kie Summer would be the best time to march anyway for most people i think,also this allows us more time to recruit significant numbers and organise everything better, maybe get our profile raised ahead of the march,if the media pick this up then country folk who don't hunt but still support us may join as not every Fieldsports folk are on here or Moochers and we need to get this message out to those people.We will have time to evaluate all the options and suggestions,so can we restrict any negative comments and just have constructive input only as this will reinforce the positive aspects of this protest, Higgins. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) Promotion/profile and interest should be drummed up at the smallest lurcher and terrier club show, throughout 2010 to the largest countryfairs, it should be about the ordinary working dog enthusiasts who must also be seen as voters and members of the public same as everyone else and not about raising the profile of any large organisation, eg:SACs, BASC, CA etc: if there's enough interest their support will follow?, they won't want to be left behind? I'd hate any of those bugger's to make massive amounts of money from us to cover their salaries and unpopular junkets? Tom Edited December 17, 2009 by Foxgun Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
higgins 75 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Couldn't agree more with you Foxgun Tom,especially the emphasis about representing 'ordinary' folk who vote and just enjoy their fieldsports,i think maybe this time we can get all those large organisations to back and support us this time round,THEY NEED US not the other way around.good points there Tom, Higgins. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernIreland 0 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 sounds good to me, have about six otherlads that are up for it aswell mushroom. in my opinion we should just do it and decend on them, do not give autorities time to be ready for it, they will just cage us like animals like they have done in the past, we shud just go and have a meet and a unity of fieldsports. the people in london need to know that we as normal folk just want to have our ways, our culture. n.i Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Little Butch 16 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Time we stood together as one and let It be known that the Law's stop f**k all and Is pointless! Butch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
higgins 75 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 I dont want to march with anyone.......I probaly wont like most of you! you dont want to secure the future of our sports...? No.......folk will either continue to do what they do or they wont, hopefully most of them wont. A complete repeal now would be a free for all for every little chav and scroat and there teams of stupid mates.... ignore the scrotes and chavs for now,i expect most genuine hunting folk will report them and weed them out from the hunting community or at least be vigilant enough amongst themselves to sort the wheat from the chaff,but right now we just want to gather enough people for this then multiply enough support,your all in this,later we can discriminate the reckless and unruly amongst us, Higgins. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
higgins 75 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 sounds good to me, have about six otherlads that are up for it aswell mushroom. in my opinion we should just do it and decend on them, do not give autorities time to be ready for it, they will just cage us like animals like they have done in the past, we shud just go and have a meet and a unity of fieldsports. the people in london need to know that we as normal folk just want to have our ways, our culture. n.i WE have to be bigger than the last march collectively,even if it means getting granny's signature on her deathbed,get signatures and numbers,these are more evidently powerful than debating, Higgins. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
events co-ordinator 353 Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 When we went round the shows with the SWDA people would rather spend their money in the beer tent than on merchandise to help finance the fight against the Watson bill (Scotland. The SWDA were ordinary working dog guys almost every terrier club and lurcher club in Scotland were members and we were well organised. The NWTF played a major part in the parliamentry process and we all achieved much success. Join your local club get active! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
higgins 75 Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 (edited) When we went round the shows with the SWDA people would rather spend their money in the beer tent than on merchandise to help finance the fight against the Watson bill (Scotland. The SWDA were ordinary working dog guys almost every terrier club and lurcher club in Scotland were members and we were well organised. The NWTF played a major part in the parliamentry process and we all achieved much success. Join your local club get active! Agree with what you say,can i just mention that no club on their own will do any good,Foxgun Tom illustrates that so clearly,so the only solution left is for individuals to represent themselves and fellow hunters,then maybe the clubs and organisations will support US the ordinary folk(remember there are far more ordinary folk than any organsiation,so collectively we are much bigger)we all have to stick together NO MATTER WHAT AREA of FIELDSPORTS you participate in,our voice must be LOUDER than any fieldsports organisation,the antis and the government, Higgins Edited December 18, 2009 by higgins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeD 24 Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 I will be there and I have 3 or 4 friends who will be more than happy too, any date just give me notice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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