lamm 0 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Hi, First post. When I had my SGC granted initially I declared that I had no intention of storing guns at home. This has now changed but was after some advice. I live in a new build house that has very little brick in its structure. My local FEO indicated that installing the cabinet in the loft secured to the rafters. What would in your opinions be the best methods for acheiving this obviously the rafters being wood not concrete/brick. Cheers Quote Link to post
iamduvern 62 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Hi,  First post.  When I had my SGC granted initially I declared that I had no intention of storing guns at home.  This has now changed but was after some advice.  I live in a new build house that has very little brick in its structure.  My local FEO indicated that installing the cabinet in the loft secured to the rafters.  What would in your opinions be the best methods for acheiving this obviously the rafters being wood not concrete/brick. Cheers Can you not secure it to the gable ends brickwork?? Quote Link to post
riohog 5,701 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 if you do as your feo recomends ,well it must be right if he says so Quote Link to post
chippy28 1 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Hi, First post. When I had my SGC granted initially I declared that I had no intention of storing guns at home. This has now changed but was after some advice. I live in a new build house that has very little brick in its structure. My local FEO indicated that installing the cabinet in the loft secured to the rafters. What would in your opinions be the best methods for acheiving this obviously the rafters being wood not concrete/brick. Cheers Would of thought coach screws into your ceiling joists would be the best bet mate or have you not got blockwork gables in the loft to fix to. hope this helps mate Quote Link to post
dave1372 83 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 I had the same problem. Coach screws will be fine. You may find you need to drill a couple of extra holes in the back of the cabinet to ensure you get enough solid fixings on the rafters. Lets face it by the time it takes someone to break into my house (without my two neighbours who are policemen,get past the dog, get into the loft, break into the cabinet, then lets face it they bloody deserve them after all the effort lol! Quote Link to post
lamm 0 Posted December 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 thanks chaps regarding the gable ends its chip board but not really sure whats behind it whether is brick or plaster. will have to drill a test hole through to see. thanks again Quote Link to post
epo 2 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 i put mine in the loft was a reet tw4t getting it in the loft rawl bolted it to the chimney breast only to find its not square so had to bang a load of rapid cement round it then fitted a walking floor and cemented and screwed to that the copper turned up stuck his head in the loft told me to swing on the cabinate then passed it lol didnt even check if he could get a bar behind it ect Quote Link to post
dave1372 83 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 i put mine in the loft was a reet tw4t getting it in the loft rawl bolted it to the chimney breast only to find its not square so had to bang a load of rapid cement round it then fitted a walking floor and cemented and screwed to that the copper turned up stuck his head in the loft told me to swing on the cabinate then passed it lol didnt even check if he could get a bar behind it ect I had 3 cabinets checked that way....just stuck his head in the loft and that was it lol!....I did hear of another one locally that the bugger was swinging off it with all his might!..I guess I got lucky. Quote Link to post
dave1372 83 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 thanks chaps regarding the gable ends its chip board but not really sure whats behind it whether is brick or plaster. will have to drill a test hole through to see. thanks again Probally insulation then a membrane , then brick. Easier to fix to the floor and less likely to compromise your NHBC! Quote Link to post
epo 2 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 i put mine in the loft was a reet tw4t getting it in the loft rawl bolted it to the chimney breast only to find its not square so had to bang a load of rapid cement round it then fitted a walking floor and cemented and screwed to that the copper turned up stuck his head in the loft told me to swing on the cabinate then passed it lol didnt even check if he could get a bar behind it ect I had 3 cabinets checked that way....just stuck his head in the loft and that was it lol!....I did hear of another one locally that the bugger was swinging off it with all his might!..I guess I got lucky. asked me two questions 1 do you drink my reply no am always on call 2 are you depressed my reply no copper "in that case i have no problems in recomending you for your tickets" Quote Link to post
mangy1983 51 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 lol same thing was aked of me last night followed by a, "you seem like a pretty decent guy so no problems in granting your ticket". Just got to wait for the local plod 2 pass the land for a .223 centerfire. Quote Link to post
andy s410c 60 Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 If your house is new build it'll more than likely be cavity wall ie breeze block,thermalite block?? I had same concerns my FLO told me to cut out the plasterboard & fix the cabinet to the block. Rawl bolts & chemical anchor,job done around the cabinet i filled the gap with chemical anchor the FLO was happy with that. If your FLO has told you the loft is the place to be, best to keep him happy. Quote Link to post
lamm 0 Posted December 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 I am more than happy with the loft suits me to be in there to be honest was just concerned about securing to the joists but have found these SPAX screws 10mm thick 120mm long should secure well enough Quote Link to post
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