Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Looks a handy dog to have on board he does TT. Quote Link to post
Get_On 3 Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 ok lads just wondering are wheaten terriers any good for hunting cover, ditches etc? thanks bill. The Dam of my pup was a pure Wheaten and the sire was a Wheaten x Bull (pictured) both worked cover very very well and are used on fox drives in Cumbria.So from what little i know i would say yes! Awesome Looking Dog.. Quote Link to post
smithwicks 182 Posted December 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 WELL SAID TT, WHEATENS ARE NOT FOR WORKING COVER. THEY ARE BRED FOR DIFFERENT WORK. YOU DON'T RUN A SHEEPDOG ON FOX DO YOU? wel actually a friend of mine had a sheep dog a few year ago that barked on foxs through cover Quote Link to post
jamie2004live 163 Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 this is the dog these are old pics he bred it to a greyhound bitch and got some handy lurchers. he was only young in the first picture. thats a very immpesive lookin dog i like him Quote Link to post
sounder79 80 Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 WELL SAID TT, WHEATENS ARE NOT FOR WORKING COVER. THEY ARE BRED FOR DIFFERENT WORK. YOU DON'T RUN A SHEEPDOG ON FOX DO YOU? wel actually a friend of mine had a sheep dog a few year ago that barked on foxs through cover a collie will hunt mad bud and a good wheaten will go through any cover,we had one before and he"d hunt away with the terriers no bother,but they dont bark and youd lose them fast.youd want to know the area before you let them go,if you knew there was no game around you could. Quote Link to post
Hepher 86 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 THERE'S STRONG DOGS AND EARTHDOGS, WHY MIX THE 2? DIFFERENT DOGS FOR DIFFERENT JOBS. Quote Link to post
jimmys shop 182 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 THERE'S STRONG DOGS AND EARTHDOGS, WHY MIX THE 2? DIFFERENT DOGS FOR DIFFERENT JOBS. Why not? Its worked in the past. Quote Link to post
freem 25 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 THERE'S STRONG DOGS AND EARTHDOGS, WHY MIX THE 2? DIFFERENT DOGS FOR DIFFERENT JOBS. caps lock bud, there's no need to shout Quote Link to post
Hepher 86 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 THERE'S STRONG DOGS AND EARTHDOGS, WHY MIX THE 2? DIFFERENT DOGS FOR DIFFERENT JOBS. caps lock bud, there's no need to shout NOT SHOUTING I ALWAYS USE CAPPS Quote Link to post
smithwicks 182 Posted December 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 ok back to the thread lads.!! so any body else got any pics or thoughts they would like to share? Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,586 Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 THERE'S STRONG DOGS AND EARTHDOGS, WHY MIX THE 2? DIFFERENT DOGS FOR DIFFERENT JOBS. Never a truer word said.For starters you are putting mute dogs into your line.If your dog or bitch(ground dog)needs gameness from a wheaten she or he is no good anyway(get rid of it dont breed from it)If your dog or bitch is good enough put her to a good earth dog like herself.Locators or not earth dogs should make noise dont breed it out of them.If you are in to HEAVY digging the pups would be useless as they will get broke up and not last two seasons.I have seen idiots(not talking about anybody on this site)digging with such dogs and the more he got broke up the bigger macho mans head got.ITS THE MY MICKEY IS BIGGER THAN YOUR SYNDROME Quote Link to post
jimmys shop 182 Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 THERE'S STRONG DOGS AND EARTHDOGS, WHY MIX THE 2? DIFFERENT DOGS FOR DIFFERENT JOBS. Why not? Its worked in the past. and hopefully will work again ,Liam nobody wants dogs smashed up ,we have left that behind us several years ago.I personally believe that if you breed this type of terrier cross that you have watched and studied both dogs working patterns and temperment for years before you make the decision to breed a litter ,think back when bull was added to russells to throw them that bit of gameness ,and also several lines of black dogs .So if after several seasons of one of these cross,es proving themselves beyond doubt ,Do we not breed of her cos it might be to hard for the game and remain mute .Ive had several mute dogs and knew before i dropped them in what the outcome of the dig would be ,unfortunatley that type of gameness in dogs is slowly fading away as i believe theres not as many guys getting able to try dogs to a standard we where able to in the 80s .So my personal belief is put in gameness where it is needed .HORSES FOR COURSES . Quote Link to post
jimmys shop 182 Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 (edited) THERE'S STRONG DOGS AND EARTHDOGS, WHY MIX THE 2? DIFFERENT DOGS FOR DIFFERENT JOBS. Why not? Its worked in the past. and hopefully will work again ,Liam nobody wants dogs smashed up ,we have left that behind us several years ago.I personally believe that if you breed this type of terrier cross that you have watched and studied both dogs working patterns and temperment for years before you make the decision to breed a litter ,think back when bull was added to russells to throw them that bit of gameness ,and also several lines of black dogs .So if after several seasons of one of these cross,es proving themselves beyond doubt ,Do we not breed of her cos it might be to hard for the game and remain mute .Ive had several mute dogs and knew before i dropped them in what the outcome of the dig would be ,unfortunatley that type of gameness in dogs is slowly fading away as i believe theres not as many guys getting able to try dogs to a standard we where able to in the 80s .So my personal belief is put in gameness where it is needed .HORSES FOR COURSES . GAMENESS HAS TO BE IN THE DOG, YOU CANT ADD IN IN LATER !!!!!!!!! SURE WE ALL KNOW THAT ! ! ! ! ! HEADER .Thanks for reminding me as im going daft in my oul age and maybe should stick to reading books about how GENES work . Edited December 19, 2009 by jimmys shop Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,586 Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 THERE'S STRONG DOGS AND EARTHDOGS, WHY MIX THE 2? DIFFERENT DOGS FOR DIFFERENT JOBS. Why not? Its worked in the past. and hopefully will work again ,Liam nobody wants dogs smashed up ,we have left that behind us several years ago.I personally believe that if you breed this type of terrier cross that you have watched and studied both dogs working patterns and temperament for years before you make the decision to breed a litter ,think back when bull was added to russells to throw them that bit of gameness ,and also several lines of black dogs .So if after several seasons of one of these cross,es proving themselves beyond doubt ,Do we not breed of her cos it might be to hard for the game and remain mute .Ive had several mute dogs and knew before i dropped them in what the outcome of the dig would be ,unfortunately that type of gameness in dogs is slowly fading away as i believe theres not as many guys getting able to try dogs to a standard we where able to in the 80s .So my personal belief is put in gameness where it is needed .HORSES FOR COURSES . If you put wheaten back to game terriers you will most definitely see dogs getting smashed up.you also dont need to study wheatens working patterns for very long to know how good he or she is five minutes is plenty,let him in if he tries to smash everything in front of him stays there and does not bark he is a good one,if he barks or comes away he is not.I know all the stories of some people putting game dogs to Russell's and black dogs some did but plenty did not(it was also whispered behind good terrier mens backs by begrugers who had f**k all oh he has bull in them)I cant stress enough its a no no dont put game dogs near your earth dogs you will destroy them.If you need a good stud look around they are out there.or if you are not happy with what you have dont put wheaten or bull in it get rid of it. Quote Link to post
jimmys shop 182 Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 THERE'S STRONG DOGS AND EARTHDOGS, WHY MIX THE 2? DIFFERENT DOGS FOR DIFFERENT JOBS. Why not? Its worked in the past. and hopefully will work again ,Liam nobody wants dogs smashed up ,we have left that behind us several years ago.I personally believe that if you breed this type of terrier cross that you have watched and studied both dogs working patterns and temperament for years before you make the decision to breed a litter ,think back when bull was added to russells to throw them that bit of gameness ,and also several lines of black dogs .So if after several seasons of one of these cross,es proving themselves beyond doubt ,Do we not breed of her cos it might be to hard for the game and remain mute .Ive had several mute dogs and knew before i dropped them in what the outcome of the dig would be ,unfortunately that type of gameness in dogs is slowly fading away as i believe theres not as many guys getting able to try dogs to a standard we where able to in the 80s .So my personal belief is put in gameness where it is needed .HORSES FOR COURSES . If you put wheaten back to game terriers you will most definitely see dogs getting smashed up.you also dont need to study wheatens working patterns for very long to know how good he or she is five minutes is plenty,let him in if he tries to smash everything in front of him stays there and does not bark he is a good one,if he barks or comes away he is not.I know all the stories of some people putting game dogs to Russell's and black dogs some did but plenty did not(it was also whispered behind good terrier mens backs by begrugers who had f**k all oh he has bull in them)I cant stress enough its a no no dont put game dogs near your earth dogs you will destroy them.If you need a good stud look around they are out there.or if you are not happy with what you have dont put wheaten or bull in it get rid of it. Are you speaking from your own personal expierence Liam? Quote Link to post
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