whats the better

[stubby 175]

Im after a cheap semi, something I aint going to cry if it gets dirty/scratched, have of course been looking at a synthetic hatson escort, but now a YILDIZ has come into the question too, if Im honest I have no idea on the internal workings of these guns, so in your eyes, is one better, or are they roughly the same

[bicykillgaz 1]

i've never seen the yildiz so cant comment on that i know there .410 o/u are nice though, i have owned a hatsan escort and really regret letting it go as long as you use cartridges over 65mm long and 28g and over preferably 30g+ they are great guns and keep it clean just because its cheap doesn't mean it should be abused like some people do!

 

like i say i loved mine and am gutted i got rid of it, don't listen to gun snobs who say they are shit, if you look after it and can shoot with it you'll hit just as much as if it was a browning, berretta or benelli

 

have fun what ever you decide on mate

[JohnGalway 1,043]

Baikal MP-153, much more reliable than the hatstands.

[fensaluki 35]

I know many will say that you get what you pay for and fair dues this is correct but if you look after them any of these guns will give you great value for money mate.Just a mattter of which one feels better to you.

ATB

[Silvertip 1]

My Escort is great, cant fault it for the price. no idea about the other one tho. The Hatsan had a bad reputaton for feed faults to begin with but i think they have cleared it up with the later models, or so it seems with mine.

[dave1372 83]

If you do a bit of research you will probablly find that they are both made in the same factory in Turkey. I have a webley 810f wildfowler and I believe at that time they came from Turkey, hence this explains why it is useless! lol!

Edited December 12, 2009 by dave1372

[Deker 3,478]

Difficult this one, as some know I have had a near death experience with a Hatsan, allegedly they have got better, but if you get a used one it could be an early one which putting it kindly could be classed as dangerous!!!

 

So from my point of view anything but...

 

Does it have to be a semi, plenty of inexpensive guns about, even from Turkey which are quite reasonable..????

[Colster 1]

Gaz has it right imo, Hatstands are fine but don't put small loads through them, they really don't like it.

[mandog 37]

I have the escort and the rib is not straight with the barrel.

 

I would put an extra £100 towards a berreta mate.

[mandog 37]

Before any confusion settles in i meant a secondhand berreta.

[ol26 2]

ive bought a second hand browning phoenix, cracking semi auto and not too much.

[charlie caller 3,654]

Dont waste your money on either mate,they are crap,either save up and buy the best IE benelli,or buy a second hand decent make,franchi are good a mate of mine got a synthetic one SH for 400quid,and its a really nice gun never jams,he bought it after being infuriated by a brand new hatstand he got kept jamming all the time,nasty cheap and horrible dont do it mate youl regret it i promise good luck

 

CHARLIE CALLER

[salukiwhippet 6]

First up, does it have to be a semi? Pumps are cheaper, more versatile and more reliable. If it does have to be an SA, then I'd look for a secondhand beretta 303 or similar. My mate got one, multichoke in good order for about £350 and I reckon it will outlast any escort. Two of our beaters have escorts, one has had no trouble with his, the other bust the firing pin first time out. Seems most are OK, but if you get a friday afternoon special, you're in for trouble.

 

James

[dave1372 83]

Before any confusion settles in i meant a secondhand berreta.

I would second that.....It follows the saying 'buy cheap you buy twice'! save yourself the misery bite the bullet and spend a little extra.....why take the chance?