100% digging terriers

[scent 509]

I was just wondering how long did it take most of the experienced terrier men that are at it years to to finally get that terrier that you can call 100%.From the time you got your first terrier how long did it take or even how many terriers did it take that you could finally say to yourself ,i have a 100% digging dog or bitch in my kennell

i think every case would be differnt scent it depends on the quary a lot and i think the ground you work i.e tight earths small bitch old sets big dog horses for corses but when it happens and you know the dog is 100 per sent its the bolllocks

i understand what you mean pal ,i suppose if your start buying working dogs instead of pups it might happen aolt sooner aswell

scent the only way you ll get workers is to rear well bred pups and take your chance who in there right mind is going too sell a proper working terrier think about what your saying

i know what your saying dee but in fairness i got 2 working dogs for mates in the last 2 years and the dogs aint put a foot wrong YET .I agree with you though in what your saying pal.Have you ever bought a working terrier that you were happy with

Edited December 5, 2009 by scent

[freem 25]

i don't know lads, i know sometimes a lad might be getting out of the dogs for health reasons or break up with the missus etc. but generally if someone is selling a genuine working terrier its more likely to be stroked from somewhere or has flaws that they're not telling you about.

 

for me anyway, half the craic is from rearing and bringing on either your own pups or friends pups

at least you know then what's gone in to them and can give them the best chance

[wexford Pa 84]

Freem ur dead right, the best way is bringin up ur own from stock u well know..

but if i broke up wit the mrs id get more dogs not sell em

Edited December 6, 2009 by wexford Pa

[top terrierman 90]

its a hard one answer i have had a few that i was very happy with and alot that i wasnt.its all about bringing on the right stuff and geting out their and trying them.their are alot that dont make it trust me scent i have had my fair share of bad ones but not for long as for buying 100 per cent working dogs it dosent happen.

 

 

[drifter 1 50]

I will quote a well known genuine terrierman off here who has had more than his fair share of top shelf terriers throughout his career He has said to me many times "everybody has there five minuites of fame in this job" meaning you will have a yard of grafters at times and "get you by terriers" at others.

They arnt all world beaters and differnt people look for different things in a dog but as another well known terrierman told me "its all about getting the best tune out of the fiddle you have got" and if your dogs please you and give you the sport you want then that is all you can ask of them.

 

atb drifter

[fionn 21]

iv had my fair share of bad luck the last few year myself.I started off buying so called well bred pups that were really off shit that i later learned.I had a few digs with them but they walked when the goin got tough.At the moment iv another 2 well bred pups here ,one of which is a russell bitch and a pattxrussell that i got off kevin m .Even the working bitch i have here at the moment is on a yellow card.Just seems like a never ending cycle to try get a right good dog or bitch.Sometimes i feel like bashing me head off a wall

scent mate all been there u need to start digging with genuine digging men you have to learn off them remenber the man on top of ground has to be as good as the dog underground

when u get a good dog uknow then iv paid thousands for so called digging dogs and well bred terriers theres a few good terriermen in waterford go to them for ur pups and asks to go along for dig too see parent working they say everyman will get one great dog keep trying my opinion keep the faith

[GET THEM OUT (.)(.) 39]

i have ruined a few terriers in the past, but i have learnt by my mistakes,

i did buy a 100% working terrier that got put thro some proper graft but stuck it to the end, ,

i later sold that dog for very litte money because of personaly isuses,

atm, i have a pattx spaniel she is 4 year old but i wouldnt change her for the world, no she isnt 100% to a terrier man, but she is 100% for the work i need, i can shout her out the deepest of earths, she will stay to charlie when needed but is also a great bolter, yes a few times she will show, bufore she gets stuck in, i dont just use her for digging so thats mainly were her work comes in, , most terrier lads wouldnt give her the space in the kennel but horses for courses n all that,

[NBW Terrier 16]

...Just seems like a never ending cycle to try get a right good dog or bitch.Sometimes i feel like bashing me head off a wall

 

I've got the same feeling.

 

Some years ago I bought a 6yrs old pattxrussell and she is the best dog I've ever seen. Very ugly but the beauty comes from her work. The only problem with her she is unable to be pregnant. That's why she was sold out, the guy didn't mentioned before. We have covered her 3 times with no result. ...never ending cycle to try get a good one must go on...

[Cleanspade 3,322]

i have ruined a few terriers in the past, but i have learnt by my mistakes,

i did buy a 100% working terrier that got put thro some proper graft but stuck it to the end, ,

i later sold that dog for very litte money because of personaly isuses,

atm, i have a pattx spaniel she is 4 year old but i wouldnt change her for the world, no she isnt 100% to a terrier man, but she is 100% for the work i need, i can shout her out the deepest of earths, she will stay to charlie when needed but is also a great bolter, yes a few times she will show, bufore she gets stuck in, i dont just use her for digging so thats mainly were her work comes in, , most terrier lads wouldnt give her the space in the kennel but horses for courses n all that,

 

 

that is what i like in a terrier. a stay till dug dog is to be admired. but to some they are a liability in an ideal world. i would like to own a dog that could stay till dug. when told. kill the quarry when asked. and shout out when needed. anyone got one for me

 

no one ever sells a good working terrier. is a very broad statement and of cource is not true. ive seen some very good terriers changing hands. and for many reasons.the terrierworld is full of sweeping statements and most of them are bollocks.

 

one of the main reasons good terriers change hands is they are owned by fannies that wouldnt know a good terrier if it jumped up and bit there arse. just remember there is no such thing as a perfect dog. and to match the perfect working dogs with good knowledgable owners. must be nigh on impossible.

 

take a long look at your present stock. as sometimes the hardest thing too get are the easiest to lose.

 

some dogs will have faults. are they genetic or are they your fault??? food for thought.

 

the reason there are so many so called shite terriers....

 

could it be that the knowledge of training and entering good stock isnt as good as it was..

 

a wee look through the hundreds of pages of the terrier section tells a story

 

early entering

 

bad entering

 

over working

 

over facing terriers.

 

testing to the max. (breaking) terriers.

 

the sportmanship atitude is rare. the whole game has changed. and not in a good way

 

super locators. a good advance . or are they. ive seen folk talking about certain terriers in a god like way only to find out they where mute. how long would they have lasted. and would they have been valued.

 

its not all down to shite terriers. and bad breeding in my opinion. allthough there is a lot of crap bred. thats just the tip of the iceburg.

[Guest rexdigger]

only ever had 1 terrier that i could safely say that it was 100% could try rabbity spots with no fear of digging a bunny never backed off always went forward rocks big earths anywhere iv had a few that didnt make the grade and got rid only last week got shot of a bitch i had for 2 years because it had the three strikes and out but also one mans 100% is another mans shite imo and as far as im concerned nobody sells a guaranteed working dog because if it was any good the lads who go out with the owner would have it also a dog should stay till dug to and see the job out

Edited December 6, 2009 by rexdigger

[GET THEM OUT (.)(.) 39]

i have ruined a few terriers in the past, but i have learnt by my mistakes,

i did buy a 100% working terrier that got put thro some proper graft but stuck it to the end, ,

i later sold that dog for very litte money because of personaly isuses,

atm, i have a pattx spaniel she is 4 year old but i wouldnt change her for the world, no she isnt 100% to a terrier man, but she is 100% for the work i need, i can shout her out the deepest of earths, she will stay to charlie when needed but is also a great bolter, yes a few times she will show, bufore she gets stuck in, i dont just use her for digging so thats mainly were her work comes in, , most terrier lads wouldnt give her the space in the kennel but horses for courses n all that,

 

 

that is what i like in a terrier. a stay till dug dog is to be admired. but to some they are a liability in an ideal world. i would like to own a dog that could stay till dug. when told. kill the quarry when asked. and shout out when needed. anyone got one for me

 

no one ever sells a good working terrier. is a very broad statement and of cource is not true. ive seen some very good terriers changing hands. and for many reasons.the terrierworld is full of sweeping statements and most of them are bollocks.

 

one of the main reasons good terriers change hands is they are owned by fannies that wouldnt know a good terrier if it jumped up and bit there arse. just remember there is no such thing as a perfect dog. and to match the perfect working dogs with good knowledgable owners. must be nigh on impossible.

 

take a long look at your present stock. as sometimes the hardest thing too get are the easiest to lose.

 

some dogs will have faults. are they genetic or are they your fault??? food for thought.

 

the reason there are so many so called shite terriers....

 

could it be that the knowledge of training and entering good stock isnt as good as it was..

 

a wee look through the hundreds of pages of the terrier section tells a story

 

early entering

 

bad entering

 

over working

 

over facing terriers.

 

testing to the max. (breaking) terriers.

 

the sportmanship atitude is rare. the whole game has changed. and not in a good way

 

super locators. a good advance . or are they. ive seen folk talking about certain terriers in a god like way only to find out they where mute. how long would they have lasted. and would they have been valued.

 

its not all down to shite terriers. and bad breeding in my opinion. allthough there is a lot of crap bred. thats just the tip of the iceburg.

 

 

very true words, the terriers of today are not as good as they were all them years ago when the locators were none existent, , my bitch has come away from a charlie before , but she only does it when there are lurchers running around the earth of a shot goes of from the 12, maybe she does this thinking that a fox has bolted and wants in with the action ? but always re-entered and done her job, she has never killed a fox to ground, very neally on serval occasions, , but !! she has found in massive place that so called 100% terreirs have refused, she will run all day bushing, ratting, with the lurchers and pack and still do her job at the end of the day when the fox is to ground, , how many people practise locating there dogs by ear before they use there bleepers ??

[francolin 449]

for me a 100% is a dog that wont pass a live fox hole and can be trusted when he says no one home.

100% marking dog but thats a million miles from a good 100% digging dog surely pal ,is there such a beast as a 100% digger scent .you could see loads of good dogs go but theres always some thing that bit special in the next mans kennel all the best to the lads with 100% dogs LUCKY BASXXXXS

[fellman 116]

i have ruined a few terriers in the past, but i have learnt by my mistakes,

i did buy a 100% working terrier that got put thro some proper graft but stuck it to the end, ,

i later sold that dog for very litte money because of personaly isuses,

atm, i have a pattx spaniel she is 4 year old but i wouldnt change her for the world, no she isnt 100% to a terrier man, but she is 100% for the work i need, i can shout her out the deepest of earths, she will stay to charlie when needed but is also a great bolter, yes a few times she will show, bufore she gets stuck in, i dont just use her for digging so thats mainly were her work comes in, , most terrier lads wouldnt give her the space in the kennel but horses for courses n all that,

 

 

that is what i like in a terrier. a stay till dug dog is to be admired. but to some they are a liability in an ideal world. i would like to own a dog that could stay till dug. when told. kill the quarry when asked. and shout out when needed. anyone got one for me

 

no one ever sells a good working terrier. is a very broad statement and of cource is not true. ive seen some very good terriers changing hands. and for many reasons.the terrierworld is full of sweeping statements and most of them are bollocks.

 

one of the main reasons good terriers change hands is they are owned by fannies that wouldnt know a good terrier if it jumped up and bit there arse. just remember there is no such thing as a perfect dog. and to match the perfect working dogs with good knowledgable owners. must be nigh on impossible.

 

take a long look at your present stock. as sometimes the hardest thing too get are the easiest to lose.

 

some dogs will have faults. are they genetic or are they your fault??? food for thought.

 

the reason there are so many so called shite terriers....

 

could it be that the knowledge of training and entering good stock isnt as good as it was..

 

a wee look through the hundreds of pages of the terrier section tells a story

 

early entering

 

bad entering

 

over working

 

over facing terriers.

 

testing to the max. (breaking) terriers.

 

the sportmanship atitude is rare. the whole game has changed. and not in a good way

 

super locators. a good advance . or are they. ive seen folk talking about certain terriers in a god like way only to find out they where mute. how long would they have lasted. and would they have been valued.

 

its not all down to shite terriers. and bad breeding in my opinion. allthough there is a lot of crap bred. thats just the tip of the iceburg.

 

 

very true words, the terriers of today are not as good as they were all them years ago when the locators were none existent, , my bitch has come away from a charlie before , but she only does it when there are lurchers running around the earth of a shot goes of from the 12, maybe she does this thinking that a fox has bolted and wants in with the action ? but always re-entered and done her job, she has never killed a fox to ground, very neally on serval occasions, , but !! she has found in massive place that so called 100% terreirs have refused, she will run all day bushing, ratting, with the lurchers and pack and still do her job at the end of the day when the fox is to ground, , how many people practise locating there dogs by ear before they use there bleepers ??

the terriers of today are light years ahead of where they were years ago . look back in the old books mate .Tipping 5.6,7,8 terriers into a set is NOT the way to test terriers........

[marky r 25]

i once heard some one say you only know youv got a 100% digging dog when its dead or retired cause at the next dig it could come away i suppose its true in a sense but i believe you can have alot of confidence in a dog but i believe a 100% digging dog thats a rare thing in this day and age and if someone said they had one id hvae to call them a liar till the dog was retired so you know it never came away from a dig if you can see the parents work and breed best to the best the rest dont matter.

[francolin 449]

fellman have you been looking in the lucas books ect 6 dogs to ground and a large group of diggers