CharlieT 32 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I thought the law states you cant shoot a fox with anything less than 40gn? Rules out an HMR then !!!, although many of us have ours so conditioned. Quote Link to post
TOPPER 1,809 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 i wouldn t even dream of using an air rifle for a fox i used a .410 pistol , i have a .22 pistol as well but i pref the .410 Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I read it years ago but im buggered if i know where,duno if it still stands?? \ As far as I am aware there is NO specific law relating to calibres/power/loads when shooting fox. There are general laws relating to cruelty which means you would need to use adequate power to deal with them humanely. Anyone else got anything to add... Cheers Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Anyone any advice or experience on the best tool for humane dispatch. For dispaching foxes only from traps. Cheers Airborne Needs qualifying more..... If they are in open traps/snares then a 410/9mm garden gun or shotgun has a good chance, a 12ft lb air rifle is far from satisfactory, you will have a job keeping him still to get it anywhere close. If they are in caged traps then rifles and shotguns are a health and safety issue and not for consideration, you need a pistol, 410/9mm again or .22lr is very capable, but they still run around in the cage a lot on the whole, so great care is needed. Yes, a 12ft lb air rifle is capable of killing a fox but should not be anyones first choice! Drowning in the cage is another option, but one I have NEVER liked, even for the rats!! Quote Link to post
leegreen 2,152 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Drowning in cages, I just couldn't do it. Quote Link to post
waz77 15 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Some usefull info here http://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/index.aspx?articleid=461 Quote Link to post
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 A fekin air rifle ? LOL thats brutal, do the job right. Ive seen a fox run on after a fair pelt with a shotgun, hardy animals. Quote Link to post
ratattack 111 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Anyone any advice or experience on the best tool for humane dispatch. For dispaching foxes only from traps. Cheers Airborne Needs qualifying more..... If they are in open traps/snares then a 410/9mm garden gun or shotgun has a good chance, a 12ft lb air rifle is far from satisfactory, you will have a job keeping him still to get it anywhere close. If they are in caged traps then rifles and shotguns are a health and safety issue and not for consideration, you need a pistol, 410/9mm again or .22lr is very capable, but they still run around in the cage a lot on the whole, so great care is needed. Yes, a 12ft lb air rifle is capable of killing a fox but should not be anyones first choice! Drowning in the cage is another option, but one I have NEVER liked, even for the rats!! I think you will find that drowning ANY animal is highly cruel and very illegal. Shoot it with a suitable weapon for the job. A .22lr pistol, 410/9mm pistol is perfect for the job. An air gun is NOT a suitable weapon for HUMANE dispatch, yes it may kill it but not as well as any of the afore mentioned weeapons designed for the job patience is the key to a humane dispatch with a pistol, far too many people just stick one in it to slow it down if it won't sit still. In 7 years of using a .22 pistol for dispatch in a headshot i needed 6 2shots out of nearly 700 animals to kill cleanly. Quote Link to post
quicksilver 0 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Anyone any advice or experience on the best tool for humane dispatch. For dispaching foxes only from traps. Cheers Airborne i used pit bull cross greyhounds they do the job well lol was wondering when someone would mention that. You said what I was thinking Quote Link to post
spanj 11 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Anyone any advice or experience on the best tool for humane dispatch. For dispaching foxes only from traps. Cheers Airborne If you need to dispatch in urban areas a shotgun could get you nicked big-time. Fuzz recommend sub-12 air rifle Ric Under no circumstances could this ever be considered humane. Think you need to recheck your facts Ric, see where you're coming from ref sg but airguns ........ jeez you'll give tha antis a field day ! coppers too come to that Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Anyone any advice or experience on the best tool for humane dispatch. For dispaching foxes only from traps. Cheers Airborne Needs qualifying more..... If they are in open traps/snares then a 410/9mm garden gun or shotgun has a good chance, a 12ft lb air rifle is far from satisfactory, you will have a job keeping him still to get it anywhere close. If they are in caged traps then rifles and shotguns are a health and safety issue and not for consideration, you need a pistol, 410/9mm again or .22lr is very capable, but they still run around in the cage a lot on the whole, so great care is needed. Yes, a 12ft lb air rifle is capable of killing a fox but should not be anyones first choice! Drowning in the cage is another option, but one I have NEVER liked, even for the rats!! I think you will find that drowning ANY animal is highly cruel and very illegal. Shoot it with a suitable weapon for the job. A .22lr pistol, 410/9mm pistol is perfect for the job. An air gun is NOT a suitable weapon for HUMANE dispatch, yes it may kill it but not as well as any of the afore mentioned weeapons designed for the job patience is the key to a humane dispatch with a pistol, far too many people just stick one in it to slow it down if it won't sit still. In 7 years of using a .22 pistol for dispatch in a headshot i needed 6 2shots out of nearly 700 animals to kill cleanly. I think we are singing from the same hymn sheet, but perhaps I didn't word it too well, I do not and NEVER have drowned anything! And whilst I can confirm 100% that a 12ft lb air rifle is capable of killing a fox (we all know it is capaple of killing people as well), it is not up for consideration in about 99.99% of circumstances! (never say never)!!! Quote Link to post
HUnter_zero 58 Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 (edited) [ As far as I am aware there is NO specific law relating to calibres/power/loads when shooting fox. There are general laws relating to cruelty which means you would need to use adequate power to deal with them humanely.Anyone else got anything to add... Cheers That is bang on, and correct. You may shoot a fox with whatever calibre rifle or shotgun you wish as you will not be breaking the law BUT if you cause unnecessary suffering to the fox there exists a whole world of legislation purposely designed to make your life a living hell. John Edited December 4, 2009 by HUnter_zero Quote Link to post
RicW 67 Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 (edited) [ As far as I am aware there is NO specific law relating to calibres/power/loads when shooting fox. There are general laws relating to cruelty which means you would need to use adequate power to deal with them humanely.Anyone else got anything to add... Cheers That is bang on, and correct. You may shoot a fox with whatever calibre rifle or shotgun you wish as you will not be breaking the law BUT if you cause unnecessary suffering to the fox there exists a whole world of legislation purposely designed to make your life a living hell. John A while back there was a thread on this, started as I recollect by Big Noel. He traps urban foxes and applied for a variation for a .410 shot pistol. It was flatly refused and he was told to use sub-12 air-rifle. This is another area where the FEO calls the shots. (Sorry!). A lot of people posted in to say they had had the same experience. Isn't possession of a 22lr pistol illegal? That's why British Olympic shooters have to go abroad to practise. There will need to be special legislation to allow 22lr pistol shooting in the 2012 Olympics. Ric Edited December 4, 2009 by RicW Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 BASC has a very well written paper here: Here Tells you pretty much everything you need to know. Quote Link to post
bedrock 16 Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 i used pit bull cross greyhounds they do the job well lol was wondering when someone would mention that. You said what I was thinking Since when has a bull cross been a firearm? Don’t post useless comments on something you know nothing about. Quote Link to post
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