sharpey_93 0 Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 i recently started teaching my 1 and a half year old cocker stay , as i neglected this part of the training when it was a pup. It has been staying fine from up to a distance of 10 yards and i have only been doing it for a week and a half so far . The problem is i walk away and it sits and stays ,and i stand looking towards it showing the palm of my hand but after about 20 seconds it lies down instead of siting upright , how do i stop this ?!?!?! its realy annoying and i have been getting hold of it by the scruff and pulling it to sit position again but it doesnt seem to be curing the fault . any help willl be much appreciated cheers Quote Link to post
buggsbunny 4 Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 is it showing sings of submition when lying down? or is it lying down cos its bored? Quote Link to post
hily 379 Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 i recently started teaching my 1 and a half year old cocker stay , as i neglected this part of the training when it was a pup. It has been staying fine from up to a distance of 10 yards and i have only been doing it for a week and a half so far . The problem is i walk away and it sits and stays ,and i stand looking towards it showing the palm of my hand but after about 20 seconds it lies down instead of siting upright , how do i stop this ?!?!?! its realy annoying and i have been getting hold of it by the scruff and pulling it to sit position again but it doesnt seem to be curing the fault . any help willl be much appreciated cheers Don't keep your hand up all of the time only use it to enforce the command when you have the dog staying put start throwing a dummy to your left or right side this should stimulate some interest and make him sit up if he breaks to go for the dummy as you have thrown it to your side you should be able to get to it before the dog does and then take him back to his seat and enforce the stay command with you hand rised and a growling voice.ps dont scruff him for staying put just to get a cocker to stay without belly crawling is good. Quote Link to post
sharpey_93 0 Posted December 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 submition ? and thanks for the comment Quote Link to post
country-kid 2 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 had same problem pal... it will learn eventually..persistance marraaaa Quote Link to post
Steve McHardy 2 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 i have the same lying down problem when getting her to sit (cocker bitch 15mnths) but only on flat grass fields when shes out beating she sits upright cause she cant see me otherwise. ive just learned to live with it mine will stay as long as she can see me without moving. lifting them up by the scruff is counter productive as the dog just gets more submissive. dont know why she deos it just deos. Quote Link to post
Beechessam 0 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 i recently started teaching my 1 and a half year old cocker stay , as i neglected this part of the training when it was a pup. It has been staying fine from up to a distance of 10 yards and i have only been doing it for a week and a half so far . The problem is i walk away and it sits and stays ,and i stand looking towards it showing the palm of my hand but after about 20 seconds it lies down instead of siting upright , how do i stop this ?!?!?! its realy annoying and i have been getting hold of it by the scruff and pulling it to sit position again but it doesnt seem to be curing the fault . any help willl be much appreciated cheers Why is it an issue that she lies down? If you want her to stay and she is doing that I cant see a problem. You are trying to cure an issue that does not exist. If there is enough to keep her stimulated then she will stay up if not she may just want to chill. There should be no need for the stay command as sit means sit until your told to do something else. Quote Link to post
j davies 8 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 i recently started teaching my 1 and a half year old cocker stay , as i neglected this part of the training when it was a pup. It has been staying fine from up to a distance of 10 yards and i have only been doing it for a week and a half so far . The problem is i walk away and it sits and stays ,and i stand looking towards it showing the palm of my hand but after about 20 seconds it lies down instead of siting upright , how do i stop this ?!?!?! its realy annoying and i have been getting hold of it by the scruff and pulling it to sit position again but it doesnt seem to be curing the fault . any help willl be much appreciated cheers its your hand mate thats all she will come round be ok and it does not mater if she sits lies down as long as she does not move Quote Link to post
butcherboy 68 Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 i recently started teaching my 1 and a half year old cocker stay , as i neglected this part of the training when it was a pup. It has been staying fine from up to a distance of 10 yards and i have only been doing it for a week and a half so far . The problem is i walk away and it sits and stays ,and i stand looking towards it showing the palm of my hand but after about 20 seconds it lies down instead of siting upright , how do i stop this ?!?!?! its realy annoying and i have been getting hold of it by the scruff and pulling it to sit position again but it doesnt seem to be curing the fault . any help willl be much appreciated cheers Why is it an issue that she lies down? If you want her to stay and she is doing that I cant see a problem. You are trying to cure an issue that does not exist. If there is enough to keep her stimulated then she will stay up if not she may just want to chill. There should be no need for the stay command as sit means sit until your told to do something else. Exactly One of my cockers lies flat when doing stay training................who cares it's staying as said SIT means SIT until your told somethin else, so no need for a stay command Quote Link to post
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