Arrested

[Roebuck Rod 6]

I,ve had many chases, and few court apearences for poaching. It was back in my teens mostly, I'm 44 now. 1983 Got caught with 2 rabbits and a lamp. one lurcher. coming out a field. 2 old bill. Nicked me for poaching. Wouldnt take my dog, said he was gonna leave it there. I kicked of. Got assault charge to, Wareham majistrates day and a half trail. Guilty on poaching, not guilty on assault. sentence. Bind over to keep the peace for one year. How much did that cost. six months later, in pusuit of game, namely deer. two lurchers. Took swabs from dogs mouths, went guilty. £200 fine. Wareham majistrates. Wareham police had poaching patrols for deer hunters and would have kits to swab dogs. It was red hot. Got chased a fare few times by keepers and farmers. Got caught pheasant shootng with catapult, Blandford majistrates court. My solicoter said give him the maximum penalty. They wasnt amused when they came back out to sentence me. The maximum sentence was 50 quid. Ha Critchel, crambourne chase, probally hotest place in country for the last 300 yrs (look it up) Didnt stop me. Had keepers ram me, My mate ran one over, broke his leg. Dangerous place to be, guns pointed at me. but being young thrived on danger. Police stopped me once with keepers. Took me on. Keepers cut my wires in car, f****d me old austin 1300 GT. So i politly returned a favour by cutting barbed wire fences all night for miles. Thats how it was back then. But i would go to salisbury plains on hares every sunday, Only got hassle once, keeper threatened to shoot dogs. Army in tanks drove past. they just nodded, didnt care. Now im polite, and apologise unless they go to far. I dont go for the chase no more, just drive at 30mph, fook em. Too old for all that. too old to care. Got stopped last week right in countryside,pitch black. by old bill. Dog and lamp up, They wasnt bothered too much. It was dark and they were bit trashed. Once my name come back on pnc, They jumped back in car and fooked off. One officer reconised my son who was a national champion boxer. They couldnt of been more polite. THE KEEPERS WERE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR TROUBLE YEARS AGO BUT CHECK THIS OUT,

 

Records of violent clashes date back at least to 1322, when a fight between keepers and poachers was reported.

But the bloody heyday was the 18th century when, according to the late Desmond Hawkins, Cranborne Chase's main historian, deer were poached "on an industrial scale"

In his Anecdotes and History of Cranborne Chase, first published in 1818, Chettle clergyman William Chafin describes the murder of a gamekeeper called Tollerfield as he made his way home from an Easter service at Fontmell Magna in 1738.

 

"He was found quite dead, having been most dreadfully beaten and bruised with bludgeons or clubs and his skull fractured."

 

Several suspects were apprehended but no-one was ever charged for want of evidence.

 

Another keeper was beaten to death by sticks and staves at Vernditch, near Woodyates.

 

One of the culprits, called Wheeler, was executed and hung in chains before his remains were "rescued" by his accomplices and thrown down a deep well, chains and all.

 

Perhaps the most notorious clash occurred at the spot known as Bloody Shard Gate in Bussey Stool Walk in December 1780.

 

On one side was a group of deer-stealers, who had "assembled at Pimperne" and were armed with vicious weapons called swindgels, similar to flails used for threshing corn.

 

On the other was a similar number of keepers armed with "sticks and short hangers".

 

The poachers attacked first, breaking one keeper's kneecap, which rendered him lame for life, and breaking another's ribs, an injury that eventually caused his death.

 

The keepers fought back, inflicting "dreadful cuts and wounds" on the deer-stealers, who were forced to surrender.

 

The gang's leader, a Pimperne man called Blandford, who happened to be a sergeant in the Dragoons, suffered the worst injury, having his hand severed from the arm just above the wrist.

 

Blandford was carried to a nearby lodge, where Chafin, visiting next morning, "saw his hand in the window".

 

Blandford and his companions were initially sentenced to seven years' transportation but this was commuted to "indefinite imprisonment" on account of their "great suffering" from their wounds in prison.

 

The dragoon's hand, meanwhile, was buried in Pamphill churchyard "with full military honours".

 

 

Another battle with fatal consequences took place in 1791, after 10 gamekeepers lay in wait for a persistent and "villainous gang of deer-stealers at Rushmore Walk.

 

The poachers, also ten in number, were wearing protective "bee-pot" hats, made of straw in the manner of beehives.

 

But this was not enough to save one poacher, who died instantly after being struck in the temple by a keeper's staff.

 

"A most desperate engagement immediately ensued," writes Chafin. "Many wounds were given and received on both sides."

 

Some poachers escaped but others were convicted and transported for life.

 

The final event reported in Chafin's book occurred in December 1816, less than two years before publication.

 

It involved four poachers from Donhead, including a soldier from the Wiltshire Cavalry, threatened two of Lord Rivers' Bussey Stool Walk keepers at gunpoint.

 

But the intrepid keepers refused to capitulate, instead attacking the poachers with their hangers, wounding one in the head, another in the neck.

 

One of the poachers was captured and the others dropped their weapons and fled.

 

Their jailed companion, aggrieved at being deserted, took revenge by dobbing in his colleagues, two of whom were subsequently transported for seven years.

 

Despite the violence, surviving legends of the poachers tend to have a romantic flavour.

 

An inscription on a tombstone in Sixpenny Handley churchyard notes that when deer-stealing was at its height, poachers used to lift the lid of the tomb and hide the carcases inside until they had a chance to move them on

[hickymick 37]

Just heard two young lads arrested near Lockerbie, for having a hare in the van (soft lads) by wildlife officer, charged and 3 lurchers and van confiscated pending charges.

Be careful out there.

am sure these hare's were road kills they picked them up for dog food,on way back from hunting rabbits?but the wildlife officer needs to prove his job is worth doing with arrests nd numbers of people he can stop hunting,, great job for an ANTI hope wildlife officers go with all new goverment cut backs maybe lads with perrmish in this area need to go out nd pick a few road kill hares up to make this officer look like the dick he his?? :sick:

Edited January 20, 2011 by hickymick

[wild rover 548]

Just heard two young lads arrested near Lockerbie, for having a hare in the van (soft lads) by wildlife officer, charged and 3 lurchers and van confiscated pending charges.

Be careful out there.

am sure these hare's were road kills they picked them up for dog food,on way back from hunting rabbits?but the wildlife officer needs to prove his job is worth doing with arrests nd numbers of people he can stop hunting,, great job for an ANTI hope wildlife officers go with all new goverment cut backs maybe lads with perrmish in this area need to go out nd pick a few road kill hares up to make this officer look like the dick he his?? :sick:

 

The two lads got off, after 6 months of having van and dogs confiscated, the bill for homing the dogs was thousands that the scottish public had to pay, should never have gone to court, typical bungling, no proof that they were as scottish law says intentionally hunting hares.

[whin 463]

had plenty run ins over the years ,enough to fill a book but its not been the police thtas the bother its have ago heroes and informers and silly eejits you have took out in passed go behind your back and dont realy no the lie of the land ,and make things hot

[bri1970 22]

they should have got rid , but it also makes you fuc***g sick the stupid laws our country got, we should all start hunting people in parlement with our dogs and guns.

got rid? What are you on about? May aswell stay in the f*****g house if your going to chuck everything you catch away for fucks sake.

I get stopped all the time, just think about what your doing and work 'WITHIN THE LAW' its not hard to do.... there should never be a prosecution unless there is actual video evidence of the whole hunt from the time the dog was cast. Taking a gun helps.

 

some coursing men have been ditching their catch for years.personally i use everything i take and would pack in if i had to resort to dumping the catch.

[BORDERSCOT 3,816]

All the idiots talking about ditching game arent sportsmen in my eyes, thats just killing for killings sake.

The law can be bent if you use your head, stash the game, drop the dogs and come back for it. Carry a gun etc.

It also reduces your chances considerably of being pulled if you dont thrash around fields in a subaru legacy with trackies tucked into your socks filnging bull xs out the window. :11: Fecking twats.

Keep in with the farmers, theyre on your side if you do.

 

 

Couldn't agree more on this mate. If you set out mob handed then you're looking for trouble!!! A little thought and pre-planning is all it takes to stay one step ahead of trouble!!!

[kipperfox 7]

has any one got a link to a hunting with longdogs legislation so i can show the wan ers when there tryin to be clever and take my dogs of me be handy to carry with me!

[jonansuki 21]

me and me mate went out sunday morninng ferreting netting up an a women passes us staring see what we were up to she gets so far pulls her phone out next thing a landrover comes down an picks her up i thought she was just scared off or something so any way we moved away let things settle down and have a brew the land owner turns up with this women and guy in landrover we have permo there so we waved to him he came over with women sayin that we were badger baiting lol because of the little purse nets ha ha the land owner told her straight and that we were just rabbiting she was an anti landowner wasn't botherd looked like they woke him up tho lucky not to lose land

[akton 15]

some great times were had years ago between us and them ,but with modern technology NV and infrared cameras and the police helicopter its not fun anymore.

When you enjoyed the chase and got away you would sit and laugh about it afterwards but now with the power the courts have its no good

 

times are hard and the only way to go it legal with permission

 

good luck to the boys and hope you get your dogs and car back

[x38 179]

I,ve had many chases, and few court apearences for poaching. It was back in my teens mostly, I'm 44 now. 1983 Got caught with 2 rabbits and a lamp. one lurcher. coming out a field. 2 old bill. Nicked me for poaching. Wouldnt take my dog, said he was gonna leave it there. I kicked of. Got assault charge to, Wareham majistrates day and a half trail. Guilty on poaching, not guilty on assault. sentence. Bind over to keep the peace for one year. How much did that cost. six months later, in pusuit of game, namely deer. two lurchers. Took swabs from dogs mouths, went guilty. £200 fine. Wareham majistrates. Wareham police had poaching patrols for deer hunters and would have kits to swab dogs. It was red hot. Got chased a fare few times by keepers and farmers. Got caught pheasant shootng with catapult, Blandford majistrates court. My solicoter said give him the maximum penalty. They wasnt amused when they came back out to sentence me. The maximum sentence was 50 quid. Ha Critchel, crambourne chase, probally hotest place in country for the last 300 yrs (look it up) Didnt stop me. Had keepers ram me, My mate ran one over, broke his leg. Dangerous place to be, guns pointed at me. but being young thrived on danger. Police stopped me once with keepers. Took me on. Keepers cut my wires in car, f****d me old austin 1300 GT. So i politly returned a favour by cutting barbed wire fences all night for miles. Thats how it was back then. But i would go to salisbury plains on hares every sunday, Only got hassle once, keeper threatened to shoot dogs. Army in tanks drove past. they just nodded, didnt care. Now im polite, and apologise unless they go to far. I dont go for the chase no more, just drive at 30mph, fook em. Too old for all that. too old to care. Got stopped last week right in countryside,pitch black. by old bill. Dog and lamp up, They wasnt bothered too much. It was dark and they were bit trashed. Once my name come back on pnc, They jumped back in car and fooked off. One officer reconised my son who was a national champion boxer. They couldnt of been more polite. THE KEEPERS WERE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR TROUBLE YEARS AGO BUT CHECK THIS OUT,

 

Records of violent clashes date back at least to 1322, when a fight between keepers and poachers was reported.

But the bloody heyday was the 18th century when, according to the late Desmond Hawkins, Cranborne Chase's main historian, deer were poached "on an industrial scale"

In his Anecdotes and History of Cranborne Chase, first published in 1818, Chettle clergyman William Chafin describes the murder of a gamekeeper called Tollerfield as he made his way home from an Easter service at Fontmell Magna in 1738.

 

"He was found quite dead, having been most dreadfully beaten and bruised with bludgeons or clubs and his skull fractured."

 

Several suspects were apprehended but no-one was ever charged for want of evidence.

 

Another keeper was beaten to death by sticks and staves at Vernditch, near Woodyates.

 

One of the culprits, called Wheeler, was executed and hung in chains before his remains were "rescued" by his accomplices and thrown down a deep well, chains and all.

 

Perhaps the most notorious clash occurred at the spot known as Bloody Shard Gate in Bussey Stool Walk in December 1780.

 

On one side was a group of deer-stealers, who had "assembled at Pimperne" and were armed with vicious weapons called swindgels, similar to flails used for threshing corn.

 

On the other was a similar number of keepers armed with "sticks and short hangers".

 

The poachers attacked first, breaking one keeper's kneecap, which rendered him lame for life, and breaking another's ribs, an injury that eventually caused his death.

 

The keepers fought back, inflicting "dreadful cuts and wounds" on the deer-stealers, who were forced to surrender.

 

The gang's leader, a Pimperne man called Blandford, who happened to be a sergeant in the Dragoons, suffered the worst injury, having his hand severed from the arm just above the wrist.

 

Blandford was carried to a nearby lodge, where Chafin, visiting next morning, "saw his hand in the window".

 

Blandford and his companions were initially sentenced to seven years' transportation but this was commuted to "indefinite imprisonment" on account of their "great suffering" from their wounds in prison.

 

The dragoon's hand, meanwhile, was buried in Pamphill churchyard "with full military honours".

 

 

Another battle with fatal consequences took place in 1791, after 10 gamekeepers lay in wait for a persistent and "villainous gang of deer-stealers at Rushmore Walk.

 

The poachers, also ten in number, were wearing protective "bee-pot" hats, made of straw in the manner of beehives.

 

But this was not enough to save one poacher, who died instantly after being struck in the temple by a keeper's staff.

 

"A most desperate engagement immediately ensued," writes Chafin. "Many wounds were given and received on both sides."

 

Some poachers escaped but others were convicted and transported for life.

 

The final event reported in Chafin's book occurred in December 1816, less than two years before publication.

 

It involved four poachers from Donhead, including a soldier from the Wiltshire Cavalry, threatened two of Lord Rivers' Bussey Stool Walk keepers at gunpoint.

 

But the intrepid keepers refused to capitulate, instead attacking the poachers with their hangers, wounding one in the head, another in the neck.

 

One of the poachers was captured and the others dropped their weapons and fled.

 

Their jailed companion, aggrieved at being deserted, took revenge by dobbing in his colleagues, two of whom were subsequently transported for seven years.

 

Despite the violence, surviving legends of the poachers tend to have a romantic flavour.

 

An inscription on a tombstone in Sixpenny Handley churchyard notes that when deer-stealing was at its height, poachers used to lift the lid of the tomb and hide the carcases inside until they had a chance to move them on

you sound like my mate calpe...........back in the day... good post

[forest of dean redneck 11,526]

grew halfway between blandford and dorchester,

was great area in late 70,s early 80s when was a kid.

[Roebuck Rod 6]

'forest of dean redneck' grew halfway between blandford and dorchester,

was great area in late 70,s early 80s when was a kid.

 

Still is a great area, lived here all my life.

[Dux 5]

Simple its a road kill picked it up on the way home,, yeah i bet you did say the boys in blue,, well prove i didnt is what i would reply,, youre inocent untill proven guilty ,, they have to prove you took the hares with the dogs there and then or they carnt do shit. Just having a hare on you at the time with the dogs is not enough to stand up in a court of law if you stick to youre story,, hundreds of hares get knocked over and killed every year, it would be a waste not to take home and make a stew, recession and all that.

[beddycross 18]

just seems to be my end of scotland! warned a lad a couple of weeks ago about coming here and he did anyway and got caught. gettin permission is half the problem they just wont give it for dogs!long story short avoid SW scotland!!!

 

couple of lads i know got the motor taken off them last week down lincoln fens think lost the dog to a real good un so i say be carefull where ever you areboys and girls the laws are shit but that doesnt stop us from doing our thing on the low side

[roebuck 0]

it seems that "the heat" is on for the lampers in scotland

 

Got a bit of bother myself but i was lucky, very lucky.

I won't even take my dog up there anymore as I was stopped for having my lurched and my deer rifle you try explaining to plod it's there to find the dead beast :-(