riohog 5,701 Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 patience is the answer , once they fully bond with you and feel secure the dog will be fine , if you cant deal with a sal x dont think about getting a full blood ...good luck Quote Link to post
Guest Daks Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 There is not that much saluki in the makeup of youre dog mate, imo oppinion a shock collar is not the way to go with training a dog with a fair amount of saluki in its makeup, more likely to work against you imo. better to work with them than try to force them from what i have witnessed, they dont react well to harsh treatment imo. merle sorry, i dont quite get what you mean on the above comment??? my pup is a saluki whippet grey x saluki grey so with the help of my o/h and txting the lad i bought him off we have worked out he is just under half saluki and half grey with around an 1/8 whippet so how does that make him have not that much saluki??? to be fair though if i had put the cllar on my first x when he was here he'd of gone mad at me, this one though has tok to it very very well as i say two shocks on high settings then just the beep on the sie and he is right as rain, i had him out for a 6 mile walk and he recalled everytime he;s getting loads loads better before the collar he wouldnt of gave a sh*te bout what i say but now he;s a differant dog. i will not be using the collar when it comes to training my pure saluki at first as he is causing me enough problems as it is, howling all the time!!!! although if i try try nd try to give him commands and he continues to ignore me il slap it on him for a bit but watever i try il keep you all posted cheers...daks rio, do you not think though that sometimes x's can be worse than the real thing?? my pure pup is so much more relaxed than the other he doesnt bugger off for miles and miles, sleeps most of the day the only prob i have is when it comes to putting him in his crate or kennel then he goes mental, the advice i had so far indicates he's ferfull of it or what reason i havent got a clue??? il crack it he is getting better now after 3 days of just letting him out for the toilet, putting him in either the crate or kennel for a few mins at a time to have some food, then the door gets open and he does what he likes for a bit then back outsie and the process is repeated until bed time lol pain in the ass bt hopefully itl break the cycle and show him its not a bad place afterall, oh finally i think he is scared of the dark!!!!!! have you ever known a dog to be?? he howled last night agai so i put the light on and said "SIT" went out and never hard a peep outta him till today i then relised the light was on!!! lol regards...daks Quote Link to post
riohog 5,701 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 There is not that much saluki in the makeup of youre dog mate, imo oppinion a shock collar is not the way to go with training a dog with a fair amount of saluki in its makeup, more likely to work against you imo. better to work with them than try to force them from what i have witnessed, they dont react well to harsh treatment imo. merle sorry, i dont quite get what you mean on the above comment??? my pup is a saluki whippet grey x saluki grey so with the help of my o/h and txting the lad i bought him off we have worked out he is just under half saluki and half grey with around an 1/8 whippet so how does that make him have not that much saluki??? to be fair though if i had put the cllar on my first x when he was here he'd of gone mad at me, this one though has tok to it very very well as i say two shocks on high settings then just the beep on the sie and he is right as rain, i had him out for a 6 mile walk and he recalled everytime he;s getting loads loads better before the collar he wouldnt of gave a sh*te bout what i say but now he;s a differant dog. i will not be using the collar when it comes to training my pure saluki at first as he is causing me enough problems as it is, howling all the time!!!! although if i try try nd try to give him commands and he continues to ignore me il slap it on him for a bit but watever i try il keep you all posted cheers...daks rio, do you not think though that sometimes x's can be worse than the real thing?? my pure pup is so much more relaxed than the other he doesnt bugger off for miles and miles, sleeps most of the day the only prob i have is when it comes to putting him in his crate or kennel then he goes mental, the advice i had so far indicates he's ferfull of it or what reason i havent got a clue??? il crack it he is getting better now after 3 days of just letting him out for the toilet, putting him in either the crate or kennel for a few mins at a time to have some food, then the door gets open and he does what he likes for a bit then back outsie and the process is repeated until bed time lol pain in the ass bt hopefully itl break the cycle and show him its not a bad place afterall, oh finally i think he is scared of the dark!!!!!! have you ever known a dog to be?? he howled last night agai so i put the light on and said "SIT" went out and never hard a peep outta him till today i then relised the light was on!!! lol regards...daks like i said patience !! once they feel secure with owner and surroundings there fine ..but that applies to all dogs Quote Link to post
yukonite 0 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 hi daks my mate has offerd to borrow me a shock collar but iv been told not to use them with a saluki type dog can you give me abit more infomation about there use might be ok if its like a canni-calm where you can set it just to make a sound and not zap it. used one on a gsp as a last resort in case he got to close to the A19. iv a 8 week saluki greyhound x will put it on him if need be but not to fry him Quote Link to post
merle24 61 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) There is not that much saluki in the makeup of youre dog mate, imo oppinion a shock collar is not the way to go with training a dog with a fair amount of saluki in its makeup, more likely to work against you imo. better to work with them than try to force them from what i have witnessed, they dont react well to harsh treatment imo. merle sorry, i dont quite get what you mean on the above comment??? my pup is a saluki whippet grey x saluki grey so with the help of my o/h and txting the lad i bought him off we have worked out he is just under half saluki and half grey with around an 1/8 whippet so how does that make him have not that much saluki??? to be fair though if i had put the cllar on my first x when he was here he'd of gone mad at me, this one though has tok to it very very well as i say two shocks on high settings then just the beep on the sie and he is right as rain, i had him out for a 6 mile walk and he recalled everytime he;s getting loads loads better before the collar he wouldnt of gave a sh*te bout what i say but now he;s a differant dog. i will not be using the collar when it comes to training my pure saluki at first as he is causing me enough problems as it is, howling all the time!!!! although if i try try nd try to give him commands and he continues to ignore me il slap it on him for a bit but watever i try il keep you all posted cheers...daks rio, do you not think though that sometimes x's can be worse than the real thing?? my pure pup is so much more relaxed than the other he doesnt bugger off for miles and miles, sleeps most of the day the only prob i have is when it comes to putting him in his crate or kennel then he goes mental, the advice i had so far indicates he's ferfull of it or what reason i havent got a clue??? il crack it he is getting better now after 3 days of just letting him out for the toilet, putting him in either the crate or kennel for a few mins at a time to have some food, then the door gets open and he does what he likes for a bit then back outsie and the process is repeated until bed time lol pain in the ass bt hopefully itl break the cycle and show him its not a bad place afterall, oh finally i think he is scared of the dark!!!!!! have you ever known a dog to be?? he howled last night agai so i put the light on and said "SIT" went out and never hard a peep outta him till today i then relised the light was on!!! lol regards...daks What i mean is mate, it depends which way his HEAD has thrown, if its thrown the whippet/grey side then you will get away with using a shock collar, although in that case you shouldnt need to, but ifyoure dogs head had thrown the saluki side of the gene pool then imo you would be better off binning the shock collar as i think its probably one of the worst things you could do to a dog with such a sensitive mentality, as they will not associate the shock as other dogs may do. As you say you wouldnt put the collar on youre full saluki so you know the crack and the point iam trying to make, shocking them will break the bond youve built up with them and knock you back a good way, any harsh treatment and they rebel, they are extreemly clever dogs as you will know, and dont forget easily. Everyone to there own i surpose but i would never use a shock collar to train a dog with a decent amount of saluki blood in it makeup. A shock collar is really a last resort for any dog imo. Edited December 2, 2009 by merle24 Quote Link to post
ian 1 36 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 always shyed away from the saluki cross.i admire the shear stamina of them but all i hear is bad stuff about there behavior.like not returning when called and generally being a bit ignorant..doing what they please type thing.is this true or as i have a small suspicion is it because these dogs are used on huge feilds to do really long coarses and people who do this MAY not require a level of obedience.i believe theres 1 or 2 out there with obedient ones but is this because of some other dog thrown in the mix??.maybe one off the reasons i have a bit off a grudge is coss the pikeys just let them roam free on me dads farm.dont do wonders 4 my lamping.if they only would come and ask i would take um lampin [bANNED TEXT] me.any way enough wingin.what they like lads enlighten me please.atb.mat if you get the right saluki or saluki cross it will the best dog you have ever had i got 5 saluki crosses they all come back and they all do what i ask of them at night none of them got any bull in them just greyhoud and whippet i would nt have any other breed Quote Link to post
sambam 8 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 hi all the reason i havent got the shock collar yet is i want to try to get him up to scratch without it first and like some have said use it as a last resort but i may use it to stock break as i havent had him off lead with sheep yet and the other day he went to bolt after a horse and rider that was running past i turned around and he was about 50 meters away from me running for the horse a quick whistle n shout and he stopped in his tracks and returned. hes been round sheep and horses at least 3 times aweek since about 15 weeks old as i got him at 13 weeks and had to get him jabbed ect Quote Link to post
Guest Daks Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 hi all the reason i havent got the shock collar yet is i want to try to get him up to scratch without it first and like some have said use it as a last resort but i may use it to stock break as i havent had him off lead with sheep yet and the other day he went to bolt after a horse and rider that was running past i turned around and he was about 50 meters away from me running for the horse a quick whistle n shout and he stopped in his tracks and returned. hes been round sheep and horses at least 3 times aweek since about 15 weeks old as i got him at 13 weeks and had to get him jabbed ect hi, i wouldnt (in my opinion which means nothing!)thought you would need to use one as it sounds like its a canny dog anyway, at least he stopped and returned mine before i used the collar wouldnt of gave 2 hoots about what i shouted and kept going until "he decided he'd had enough"!!!! this is why i used the collar in the first place as i said in previous reply he is really really good now and comes back pretty much asap 99% of the time, just keep going as i say sounds to me like your doing a good job atvb...daks Quote Link to post
sambam 8 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) edited as i forgot to write anything Edited December 3, 2009 by sambam Quote Link to post
sambam 8 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 hi all the reason i havent got the shock collar yet is i want to try to get him up to scratch without it first and like some have said use it as a last resort but i may use it to stock break as i havent had him off lead with sheep yet and the other day he went to bolt after a horse and rider that was running past i turned around and he was about 50 meters away from me running for the horse a quick whistle n shout and he stopped in his tracks and returned. hes been round sheep and horses at least 3 times aweek since about 15 weeks old as i got him at 13 weeks and had to get him jabbed ect hi, i wouldnt (in my opinion which means nothing!)thought you would need to use one as it sounds like its a canny dog anyway, at least he stopped and returned mine before i used the collar wouldnt of gave 2 hoots about what i shouted and kept going until "he decided he'd had enough"!!!! this is why i used the collar in the first place as i said in previous reply he is really really good now and comes back pretty much asap 99% of the time, just keep going as i say sounds to me like your doing a good job atvb...daks thanks daks hes a good dog most of the time i even called him off 2 roe yesterday, i turned around to see what he was up to and he was right on there arse about 100-150 yards away across a field. i suppose im just fussy and want the best out of him. like when hes 20-30 feet infront and i call him he looks at me and carries on walking, it gets right on my tits. hes an exitable dog so i think ill use the collar when l let him off lead for the first few times around sheep. i might try a long lead to try and correctthe smaller issues atb sam Quote Link to post
MissRhianL 70 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I have a saluki greyhound x, hes 7 months old now, when he was younger the problem that i had with him was that if you took him out for a walk, when it was time to get back in the car he would sit about 15ft from you, if u called him he wouldnt budge an u wud have to go to him and literally pick him up and put him in yourself. As he has gone older he has snapped out of it an as soon as u open the car hes in before you know it. We have a really good bond hes been livin in the house this past month, but the only 2 things that makes my blood boil sometimes is that 1. i have just started takin him out in the night to get him used to the lamp and have him to follow it, hes getting pretty good as he knows there is somethin on the end of the lamp, but if you let him off he will run his heart out yeah, but the bugga wont come back after u have knocked the lamp off cause he knows theres somethin there an will hunt on, and i dont know wat i can do as i need some advice on how to get him to snap out of this and actually listen to me when i call his name. 2. we go out for a walk and some times u call him to come back, he will turn his head to look at you and maybe if hes in the mood he will meet u half way. And its a few minutes then to get him to come to you unless u walk the other half. It makes ur blood boil sometimes as when u really want him to come back hes not bothered, but i cant fault him all the time as some days you take him out he is there on every command. you just gotta take it day by day. He will retrieve anythin for me but once wer out on the field thats a whole different story haha it does come down to time, but what u gotta think hes only 7 months old, every dog matures at diferent ages. ATB Quote Link to post
charlie boy 85 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 a complete want of a cross the worse the more % of saluki bred into them disobidient and as daft as a brush , unless its big field running i wouldnt bother . stick to other xs better in every other way. Quote Link to post
Guest fence_hopper Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 sounds like you got your handfull there rhian Quote Link to post
MissRhianL 70 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 sounds like you got your handfull there rhian Aw some days they are more than a handful, its mad cause then other days hes brilliant, it just dont make sense Quote Link to post
artic 595 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Its hard not to repeat what good advice some members have mentioned on here. The sal x grey for me is the ideal cross and i must add that deerhound added to the mix, well then you have the most dedicated, loyal, brave grafting dog to use for your pest control. The problem comes when owners become too excited and enter the dog too early. Bond,bond and bond not just saluki x's but any dog. Then the obidience comes into play, the steadyness, the stock breaking (espeacially saluki x's). Once all these have been drummed into your dog the rest will follow. Enter too early and all else will fail. They are a great type if you are MATURE enough to have one. Quote Link to post
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