saluki x

[matmorgan 49]

always shyed away from the saluki cross.i admire the shear stamina of them but all i hear is bad stuff about there behavior.like not returning when called and generally being a bit ignorant..doing what they please type thing.is this true or as i have a small suspicion is it because these dogs are used on huge feilds to do really long coarses and people who do this MAY not require a level of obedience.i believe theres 1 or 2 out there with obedient ones but is this because of some other dog thrown in the mix??.maybe one off the reasons i have a bit off a grudge is coss the pikeys just let them roam free on me dads farm.dont do wonders 4 my lamping.if they only would come and ask i would take um lampin [bANNED TEXT] me.any way enough wingin.what they like lads enlighten me please.atb.mat

[Wolly 4]

ihave a suluki bull grey and she is obedient not tryed her on a field as she doesnt walk on a lead but she comes when i shout her you might get the odd one but i wouldnt say its all suluki crosses

[skycat 6,173]

Im ,my experience the main trait that people can't cope with is that a Saluki type needs a huge amount of work and stimulation if it is not to go nuts through boredom. They also have an incredibly high prey drive and want to hunt all the time: this is most obvious when they are between 1 and 2 years old and they just want to hunt and catch non stop: if you don't get them out and catching they will take any opportunity to go off and do their own thing. And they go completely deaf on you: its not that they are difficult as such, it is just that their drive overrides everything else.

 

Take a Saluki type or pure Saluki out working every day, be it ferreting, bushing or coursing and they will work with you just fine, but you do need to build that bond from day one. I keep mine in the house and we have a brilliant bond, but if you left such a dog sitting in the kennel all day, then took it out and expected it to behave like other dogs you'd be tearing your hair out.

 

Meerihunter on here who works pure Salukis has some spot on things to say about Salukis: read through his past posts on these dogs: says it all!

[sambam 8]

i think skycat has hit the nail on the head, i have a saluki x pup around 8-9 month old and although he has collie and bull in him aswell he has a huge amount of drive, even when i take him to the shop hes in hunt mode. hes jus starting to relise hes not to pull when on the lead. when off lead hes either using his nose in the bushes or chasing imagenary rabbits round the fields at full speed in either case hes usualy deaf to recall but always stays close a loud whiste and change direction has him running towards me but iv yet to have him walkin to heel for more than 10 seconds. basic trainning has taught me a new level of patiance but hes getting there. in the house i can tell him to sit and wait in the kitchen and hide a rabbit skin and tell him to go find and he retrives but outside is a different story. i have to be carfull as were i walk him the woods are packed with roe and i know one day ill hear that screaming of a roe which dont bother me but its always busy round there with other dog walkers and i might get into bother .skycat is rigth about the fact they need alot of stimulation as if hes bored he can be a b*****d, hell pinch things, or dive on me as he loves to play fight but when hes had a good walk and run about he just sleeps and relaxes. i dont know if its a saluki trait but hes realy exitable towards people and dogs and sumtimes stock which im working to correct

[saluki bouy 690]

i have a 2 and a half year old saluki cross she is 3 quarters saluki and a quarter greyhound . and shes brilliant bond really well with her shes lost without me and am lost without her. she does have a very high prey drive and has had since day one . had her from a pup an made a couple of mistakes when training her but the only time she puts a foot wrong when lamping now is she clears the first feild of bunnys if she misses the first she is slipped on then after that doesnt put a foot wrong all night. only thing i will say isdoesnt have a very high pain tolerance

[SMART DOG 340]

ive had a couple of saluki crosses and i find them to be a little ignorant till you get that close bond with them...

 

the one im running now has just started to mature and she is now starting to show promise, she was so immature i never took her to the field till 13 months old and even then it was a real slow start all because if i let her off that leader she ran like the wind and went like the wind for a good few hours i was really wanting to give up on her as a duck egg but i kept going had her on the long lead and finally cut out her mad dashes and by 16 month she was allowed to be introduced to the little bunnys which i must say she was torturing them but still wasn't putting her on the big rabbits as she still seemed a little odd if like so after a good 200 rabbits under her belt and 22 month in sept gone she was allowed to flush old hartley for the first time and it just seemed as she been doin it for years so i really think letting them mature before trying to settle them into the hunting way is the way to go on. many a men i no would have bulleted this bitch but i was determined not to fail on her

[merle24 61]

always shyed away from the saluki cross.i admire the shear stamina of them but all i hear is bad stuff about there behavior.like not returning when called and generally being a bit ignorant..doing what they please type thing.is this true or as i have a small suspicion is it because these dogs are used on huge feilds to do really long coarses and people who do this MAY not require a level of obedience.i believe theres 1 or 2 out there with obedient ones but is this because of some other dog thrown in the mix??.maybe one off the reasons i have a bit off a grudge is coss the pikeys just let them roam free on me dads farm.dont do wonders 4 my lamping.if they only would come and ask i would take um lampin [bANNED TEXT] me.any way enough wingin.what they like lads enlighten me please.atb.mat

 

Hi mate hows the pup doing,, I reckon them salukis are very clever and very sensitive dogs ancient breed left to roam and do there own thing, to get best out of them i think you need them either in the house with you, or if in the pen they need to be out and about with you everyday, think they need that bond and they respond more to familiar actions than word commands, imo they are far less domesticated and closer to the wild side than most other breeds, for this reason its only fair we should meet them halfway, my mate has a pure saluki dog, 4 month old now i think, goes eveywhere with him and never wanders too far away from his side, recalls and jumps good.

Alot of the coursing lads arent after a biddable dog though they just want a pure stamina running machine that can stick behind a hare for a good time on big opens. they get left in the pen for weeks on end then straight in the motor onto the feilds slip on a hare and if missed the hare, they will just want to hunt and hunt they know no different coupled with the fact they dont have a respectfull bond with the owner and its no surprise that salukis have a bad name as regards obiediance.

A pure saluki crossed with a good old strain line bred bitza lurcher will create some usefull hybrid vigour. keep me posted on Bess mate atb.

[Guest Daks]

hi, i have had saluki x's for 10 years my last and best was a 1st x sal grey he was awsome and was doing fox at 7 monts old which was far too young but in the day i was young and wanting to get out hunting which i paid for in the long term as he was really knackered by the time he was 8r old!! he won me obidiance up at pontop pike, helmsley and a show down in warminster he was the bollocks couldnt of got a beter dog, he'd retrieve when it suited him but always stayed near my side until i told him to get on, he'd do anything and everything single handed he was mint.

i have a saluki whippet grey 8 month old now, he is a little t**t, he chews, he bothers the other dog all the time, has broke my pure saluki pups rib i found out today!!!! and is generally a pain in the butt however watching him run is magnificent he just eats the ground its unreal he's like a bullet hasnt learned to turn yet!! which has caused me some panik at times in the woods lol

i have to agree the hunting instinct is huge in these dogs my old saluki grey 1st x was a little git as a pup too but he grew out of it at about 15 months!!! mine is spot on on the lead and im slowly getting him out of the deaf ear syndrome with the use of an elecy collar (they do work and really really well)

my pure kc reg pup is 4 1/2 - 5 months i think?? he runs for britain after the other pup will go all day but his problem is he is miserable as feck screams, digs, poo's in his food you name it he does it when in the kennel and crate he's hard work he doesnt want to know me just the other dog so gaining a bond is very hard, i hope that when he grows up he'l come right as i have thought about taking his head off his shoulders a few times but i have to try try and try some more it isnt the dog that fails its the handler, hence why salukis have such a bad rep for being ignorant etc etc but you have to think if the peope who have them spend the time with them and not just leave them banged up in a kennel all day then expect them to be like a collie x they would work and work well for you as they must see your part of the team (although i am pretty sure they are bred not to be a pack animal hence the term "free spirited will do what they like when they like"?? someone will correct me on that if i am wrong) if your creative and have people you can ask advice from when you get stuck it helps you alot so to all those on here that give good advice and not smart arsed comments then good on you, your a credit to the site atb...daks

 

pics of my old dog just before he had to be pts

[sambam 8]

hi daks my mate has offerd to borrow me a shock collar but iv been told not to use them with a saluki type dog can you give me abit more infomation about there use

[miketrap24 1]

had my first saluki x when i was about 13years old she was given to me when some one else had failed with her . she was a first cross salx grey stubourne took a lot of time to get a bond with her but it was never the same as if i hada her from a pup . she took fox rabbit hare regular and tbh done me proud allways had that bit off a stubourne streak in her lol being so young my self learnt to live with her faults as i did,nt know any better she lived till she was 14years old and when she went i did,nt get another till now lol 26years later but this time from a pup of 6 weeks old my aim from the start was to keep on top of him and put the work in obiediance /bond/recal he is now 13 weeks old his cross is 3/4saluki 1/8grey/1/8 whippet he lives in house with me and the bond is great, dog will follow me any where lead training was a breeze andsit was just as easy but tbh iam putting the time in with him and expect to put a sh1t load more before i can say hes right imo they do need a lot off work but it will be worth it in the end

 

will get some pics up of him when i get the wife to do it for as i havent a bloody clue myself lol

[merle24 61]

hi daks my mate has offerd to borrow me a shock collar but iv been told not to use them with a saluki type dog can you give me abit more infomation about there use

 

A saluki,, and a shock collar,, .

[matmorgan 49]

cheers all.good info.want to get a second dog.to be fair i dont think it would be fair or practical to get a saluki cross.after all what ive just read from your posts just dont think its for me.if i was going to be a one dog man i would consider it.have trained some good gun dogs and would enjoy the challenge.but having kids as i do can undo 3 months training in 3 minutes.my first pup i got from merle 24 on here.i know you cant tell this early[8 weeks ish]but theres something about the pup.think shes gonna be really steady.and a breeze to train.there you go ive put the mockas on it already lol.atb.mat.

[Guest Daks]

hi daks my mate has offerd to borrow me a shock collar but iv been told not to use them with a saluki type dog can you give me abit more infomation about there use

 

A saluki,, and a shock collar,, .

 

whats wrong with a saluki x and a shock collar?? you only shock it once or twice then use the beep beep thing on the side it breaks the "gaze" as it remembers the shock it got and it then listens to you, let me guess you know best though, even though i have kept on at it for a month now and he is coming on leaps and bounds (plus i have only shocked him twice!!!) i bet you by the time mine is matured (14-15 month) he will be obidiant as any of the other dogs i have/had maybe even as good as my mates saluki collie whippet grey or his saluki bull greyhound (it came third in obidiance at chatsworth a few years ago he too had everyone telling him it wouldnt do anyting because of the cross, stubborn, head strong etc etc to be fair his was the only dog to be called of a moving lure!!) true he might not excel in every part of it but i will put him in the nlrc obidiance to see if he'l at least try to do it

matt if you dont think a saluki is for you then fair play horses for courses and all that lol i have my two and am going to get more i want 4 dogs in total as for having kids i have kids too and it doesnt influence the dogs behavior in the slightest it benefits it if im honest as the kid will run about and play with it and the dog runs about after the kid trying to pull her over lol proper funny to watch, saves me a job though so everyones happy. Whatever you decide on getting i wish you all the best cheers...daks

Edited November 30, 2009 by Daks

[matmorgan 49]

hi daks my mate has offerd to borrow me a shock collar but iv been told not to use them with a saluki type dog can you give me abit more infomation about there use

 

A saluki,, and a shock collar,, .

 

whats wrong with a saluki x and a shock collar?? you only shock it once or twice then use the beep beep thing on the side it breaks the "gaze" as it remembers the shock it got and it then listens to you, let me guess you know best though, even though i have kept on at it for a month now and he is coming on leaps and bounds (plus i have only shocked him twice!!!) i bet you by the time mine is matured (14-15 month) he will be obidiant as any of the other dogs i have/had maybe even as good as my mates saluki collie whippet grey or his saluki bull greyhound (it came third in obidiance at chatsworth a few years ago he too had everyone telling him it wouldnt do anyting because of the cross, stubborn, head strong etc etc to be fair his was the only dog to be called of a moving lure!!) true he might not excel in every part of it but i will put him in the nlrc obidiance to see if he'l at least try to do it

matt if you dont think a saluki is for you then fair play horses for courses and all that lol i have my two and am going to get more i want 4 dogs in total as for having kids i have kids too and it doesnt influence the dogs behavior in the slightest it benefits it if im honest as the kid will run about and play with it and the dog runs about after the kid trying to pull her over lol proper funny to watch, saves me a job though so everyones happy. Whatever you decide on getting i wish you all the best cheers...daks

thanks for the post daks.when training my last spaniel the basics of sit stay which dummy to retrieve and which not.i found when my kids played with her she could retrieve whatever whenever.then back to sessions with me shed run in.she get away with not staying put thanks to little girl getting her to stay,forget about the comand just given and go and play with the fairys lol.can be confusing i think for a pup to be able to know when and when not its ok to not stay this time etc.i really like the idea of a salukix but have another pup whom i think will make good allrounder.i want to train her as a gun dog aswell as all the normal other lurcher work.so to have the saluki cross would not be fair.nothing against them at all.want a second dog and could do with some thing really easy going.im thinking 3/4 grey 1/4 deer x beddy grey IF i can find such a cross.what do you think.sounds like youve cracked it with yours.cheers 4 your info and good luck with your dogs.atb.mat

[merle24 61]

hi daks my mate has offerd to borrow me a shock collar but iv been told not to use them with a saluki type dog can you give me abit more infomation about there use

 

A saluki,, and a shock collar,, .

 

whats wrong with a saluki x and a shock collar?? you only shock it once or twice then use the beep beep thing on the side it breaks the "gaze" as it remembers the shock it got and it then listens to you, let me guess you know best though, even though i have kept on at it for a month now and he is coming on leaps and bounds (plus i have only shocked him twice!!!) i bet you by the time mine is matured (14-15 month) he will be obidiant as any of the other dogs i have/had maybe even as good as my mates saluki collie whippet grey or his saluki bull greyhound (it came third in obidiance at chatsworth a few years ago he too had everyone telling him it wouldnt do anyting because of the cross, stubborn, head strong etc etc to be fair his was the only dog to be called of a moving lure!!) true he might not excel in every part of it but i will put him in the nlrc obidiance to see if he'l at least try to do it

matt if you dont think a saluki is for you then fair play horses for courses and all that lol i have my two and am going to get more i want 4 dogs in total as for having kids i have kids too and it doesnt influence the dogs behavior in the slightest it benefits it if im honest as the kid will run about and play with it and the dog runs about after the kid trying to pull her over lol proper funny to watch, saves me a job though so everyones happy. Whatever you decide on getting i wish you all the best cheers...daks

 

There is not that much saluki in the makeup of youre dog mate, imo oppinion a shock collar is not the way to go with training a dog with a fair amount of saluki in its makeup, more likely to work against you imo. better to work with them than try to force them from what i have witnessed, they dont react well to harsh treatment imo.