BULLDOUG 199 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I'm going to add my tuppence in here. I'm never one to join the BNP bandwagon or the so-called racist posts, but here is my real life experience in relation to local councils and ethnic minorities. 1) When mum and dad split up (he was a bit of a nutter to say the least), her and us kids were on the streets. Our 'dad' was waiting back at home with a kitchen knife for us... We presented to the council, only to be told they had nowhere for us to go. Tough titty. Mum said we'd best be sleeping in their offices then, unless they wanted her murder and that of four children on their conscience? They put us in a one room B&B and then a shared-access homeless unit for a week. When we asked what the delay was (we were stuck in the middle of nowhere with no money, no clothes, nothing) we were told the council were busy.... seeing to the Pakistani immigrants who were currently being housed in the local 5* hotel. We'd lived (and in mum's case worked) life-long in the UK and got thrown to one side, so that some immigrants could be tended to in a five star fecking hotel. Nice. 2) This year a family of black immigrants moved into my mum's street. They seem perfectly nice and decent, and started trying to make friends in the street. Fair play. A few weeks ago while the local housing dept was refitting the kitchens in every property in the street, the family disappeared. They turned back up this week, after work men had been in their place for 6 times longer than anyone else's house. The woman of the family couldn't wait to tell all her "friends" in the street what had happened. She wasn't content with a new home in the UK, fully paid for by the taxpayer. She wasn't content with that home only having a new kitchen fitted like everyone else on the estate either. She'd phoned the housing up, and TOLD them that she wanted a new living room, kitchen floor and suite, new bathroom suite and so on. They told her sorry, there's not money in the budget to do that unless it's essential repair works - they can't give one and not the other. Her reply? (this is from her own words remember, not hearsay)... "If I wasn't black, and a foreigner, you'd have done this no problem. You're racist!".... And do you know? They walked straight into it. They put her and her family in the aforementioned hotel and gutted her house, knocking down and rebuilding interior walls, new plastering and decorating, new floors, new kitchen, new bathroom, new bedroom suites.... and they even landscaped her gardens, front and back (this authority won't even mow the lawns of disabled residents as it's "too expensive" - they just get "tidy notices" served on them)... all at your expense. The woman was quite proud of herself, bragging she "likes to play the race card and get stuff - all the time"... and apparently doesn't understand why her neighbours are chewing their teeth about it?? Welcome to NuLab Britian with its PC councils too scared to say no to anyone who isn't white. Yes we can blame them for being bloody scroungers, not to mention ungrateful b*****ds considering they came to the UK with nothing and are just out for all they can get. But at the same time, doesn't most of the blame lie with local and national government which is only too happy to drop its trousers and bend over to these demanding parasites to begin with? I can't see how they get that much housing benefit, they only give you so much towards the cost of the rent. It doesn't work like that any more mate. Local Housing Allowance is set at the "middle rate" for a given borough's housing market (i.e. you get enough money to afford to privately rent at least the cheapest 50% of properties on the market in any given month). WHICH 50% of that market is determined by how many adults and children are in your household. So if you take for example Mr and Mrs Smith and their child, they'd be entitled to the two bedroom house rate (one room for an adult couple living together as married, and one room for up to two children under 12). When you have 16 Pakistanis living in a house (and god knows how many bedrooms claimed for), in an up-market borough, you can literally afford to rent a mansion. Whereas white/British people have to live in the town they're already resident/born in, and aren't "allowed" to move areas on public funds (your claim would be rejected unless you had a tie to the town), "ethnic minorities" simply turn up and say "I want to live in Kensington... meet my 16 sons and daughters"... and voilà . Massive housing payouts as described in the article in the OP. Check for yourself if you don't believe me mate, it's ridiculous! I feel simular problems are being experienced by thousands of people all over Britain, i feel for you and everyone else who are/were suffering due to multiculteral Britain. But im interested as ive voted for the BNP ever since i could (my wife also). You say you would not jump on the BNP band wagon, but is there an alternative? I would like to hear from any party who are prepared to take the drastic action needed to even attemt to put our country back to the state it should be. Even with severe action, i feel it may be far to late for Britain to again be great. Now for a moment forget reccesion etc, i think it does people the world of good to be reminded the values of what they have but who else will stand this country back on its feet?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rainmaker 7 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I feel simular problems are being experienced by thousands of people all over Britain, i feel for you and everyone else who are/were suffering due to multiculteral Britain. But im interested as ive voted for the BNP ever since i could (my wife also). You say you would not jump on the BNP band wagon, but is there an alternative? I would like to hear from any party who are prepared to take the drastic action needed to even attemt to put our country back to the state it should be. Even with severe action, i feel it may be far to late for Britain to again be great. Now for a moment forget reccesion etc, i think it does people the world of good to be reminded the values of what they have but who else will stand this country back on its feet?? Unfortunately mate, while I agree with a lot of the stuff the BNP says, I don't feel they're a viable alternative. I've emailed their HQ TWICE about their policies and received no replies. It's all very well emblazoning websites with rhetoric about immigrants and drumming up support by playing on the common man's needs and frustrations; but when you look past that, a lot of their policy is sketchy and ambiguous at best. I emailed to ask about their welfare policy, disability policies, and rural policies. I made clear these were things that affected me personally, that I was a "floating vote" and that I wanted to know more about what the party was planning, and what it had to offer aside from the headline stuff about immigration. How would voting BNP improve and/or impact on MY life, should they get into power? No replies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BULLDOUG 199 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I feel simular problems are being experienced by thousands of people all over Britain, i feel for you and everyone else who are/were suffering due to multiculteral Britain. But im interested as ive voted for the BNP ever since i could (my wife also). You say you would not jump on the BNP band wagon, but is there an alternative? I would like to hear from any party who are prepared to take the drastic action needed to even attemt to put our country back to the state it should be. Even with severe action, i feel it may be far to late for Britain to again be great. Now for a moment forget reccesion etc, i think it does people the world of good to be reminded the values of what they have but who else will stand this country back on its feet?? Unfortunately mate, while I agree with a lot of the stuff the BNP says, I don't feel they're a viable alternative. I've emailed their HQ TWICE about their policies and received no replies. It's all very well emblazoning websites with rhetoric about immigrants and drumming up support by playing on the common man's needs and frustrations; but when you look past that, a lot of their policy is sketchy and ambiguous at best. I emailed to ask about their welfare policy, disability policies, and rural policies. I made clear these were things that affected me personally, that I was a "floating vote" and that I wanted to know more about what the party was planning, and what it had to offer aside from the headline stuff about immigration. How would voting BNP improve and/or impact on MY life, should they get into power? No replies. Oh right, thats not good enough really is it, i think at the moment with the court case they are un able to recruit new members but thats not an excuse to ignore valid emails. Im gonna look into that myself Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 If I was a hungry immigrant I'd want to come here and rip this country for all it's worth, and for those immigrants that do come here for that purpose I don't blame them! Why not when it's just being given up to you like that? The blame most definitely has to lie with the politicians who have allowed this to happen to us. It's mad when you think about it though, after years of Great Britain ruling the world with it's mighty Empire, Us Brits are be the ones moaning about invading immigrants lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 2) This year a family of black immigrants moved into my mum's street. They seem perfectly nice and decent, and started trying to make friends in the street. Fair play. A few weeks ago while the local housing dept was refitting the kitchens in every property in the street, the family disappeared. They turned back up this week, after work men had been in their place for 6 times longer than anyone else's house. The woman of the family couldn't wait to tell all her "friends" in the street what had happened. She wasn't content with a new home in the UK, fully paid for by the taxpayer. She wasn't content with that home only having a new kitchen fitted like everyone else on the estate either. She'd phoned the housing up, and TOLD them that she wanted a new living room, kitchen floor and suite, new bathroom suite and so on. They told her sorry, there's not money in the budget to do that unless it's essential repair works - they can't give one and not the other. Her reply? (this is from her own words remember, not hearsay)... "If I wasn't black, and a foreigner, you'd have done this no problem. You're racist!".... And do you know? They walked straight into it. They put her and her family in the aforementioned hotel and gutted her house, knocking down and rebuilding interior walls, new plastering and decorating, new floors, new kitchen, new bathroom, new bedroom suites.... and they even landscaped her gardens, front and back (this authority won't even mow the lawns of disabled residents as it's "too expensive" - they just get "tidy notices" served on them)... all at your expense. The woman was quite proud of herself, bragging she "likes to play the race card and get stuff - all the time"... and apparently doesn't understand why her neighbours are chewing their teeth about it?? Welcome to NuLab Britian with its PC councils too scared to say no to anyone who isn't white. Exactly the same thing happened here on my estate. An African woman and her child were allocated the flat opposite where I live about 6 years ago. Before she moved in they sent a team of workman in, and put a whole new fitted kitchen in. At the time, other residents were waiting for replacement units, but were told al they could have was one new base unit and a wall cupboard. One of the neighbours took exception to this, and duly complained. Some time later, a housing inspector came out, and made them take the new kitchen out rightly saying she wasn't entitled to it, and fitted the bog standard same kitchen that everybody else got. This woman kicked up a fuss, and within about a week the full kitchen was refitted again. We all had new kitchens about 3 years back, and surprise surprise, she got another new one.... This same woman had a dispute with my friends who live above her, about their sons ferret cage amongst other things, they've lived in their flat for 17 years, and have never had a problem with other neighbours. She'd phoned the council to say there was 'dead animals hanging out of the cage' amongst other things. They had a visit off the RSPCA amongst other things, along with a council officer who both said the hutch was more than adequate and the animals were clean and in good health. She also had a visit from another housing officer, and policewoman who was the equality officer for our local force. Apparently she was claiming she'd been racially abused! This was the second time they'd had the police at the door for this, the first time she phoned the police and said she'd been abused but didn't know what my mate had said. This time it was because during a heated argument in which my mates mrs was repeatedly called 'white trash', she'd told her that if she wasn't happy living here, why didn't she move back to, wait for it, Milford Haven a town about 20 miles away where she'd moved here from! The officer admitted that she'd played the race card before in the past, (unwarranted) and they were keeping an eye on her. I can't see how they get that much housing benefit, they only give you so much towards the cost of the rent. It doesn't work like that any more mate. Local Housing Allowance is set at the "middle rate" for a given borough's housing market (i.e. you get enough money to afford to privately rent at least the cheapest 50% of properties on the market in any given month). WHICH 50% of that market is determined by how many adults and children are in your household. So if you take for example Mr and Mrs Smith and their child, they'd be entitled to the two bedroom house rate (one room for an adult couple living together as married, and one room for up to two children under 12). When you have 16 Pakistanis living in a house (and god knows how many bedrooms claimed for), in an up-market borough, you can literally afford to rent a mansion. Whereas white/British people have to live in the town they're already resident/born in, and aren't "allowed" to move areas on public funds (your claim would be rejected unless you had a tie to the town), "ethnic minorities" simply turn up and say "I want to live in Kensington... meet my 16 sons and daughters"... and voilà . Massive housing payouts as described in the article in the OP. Check for yourself if you don't believe me mate, it's ridiculous! I do believe you mate, I best get the wife pumping out the sprogs.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Scum out! and take kiz with em, fooking sell out c**t Don't you just love an intelligent conversation. It wouldn't matter if it was a polite reply you got though would it Kiz, because you've got your view on it and everyone else is just a racist if they don't have the same view. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/video/2009/nov/11/glasgow-north-east-byelection Go to 2:40 on this video and it says it all. This was a video made just before the Glasgow east election. The Gardian reporter interviews 3 local lads and find that they aren't going to bother voting because they feel the politicians don't care about them, then he interviews a somali who says something to the tune of "I'm going to vote for Lib dem because of all the things she did for me/us. helped financially, clothed and taken out". So in a nutshell the children of the tax pay get bugger all and some newly arrived gets everything. Its bloody shocking but it is buying votes in my opinion. The politicians especially Labour can see they have thousands of disafected voters in their traditional safe areas so they've imported new voters from abroad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poacher3161 1,766 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Just got back in and the wife has said a forighner has phoned from an employment agency wat has this country become [bANNED TEXT] you have to relie on immagrants for a job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bob.243 8,607 Posted December 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Just got back in and the wife has said a forighner has phoned from an employment agency wat has this country become [bANNED TEXT] you have to relie on immagrants for a job There was a deep coffee coloured one working for immigration checked my passport once, when I returned into Heathrow from overseas, he was just checking to see if I were a fit and proper person, to come into my own country. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poacher3161 1,766 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Just got back in and the wife has said a forighner has phoned from an employment agency wat has this country become [bANNED TEXT] you have to relie on immagrants for a job There was a deep coffee coloured one working for immigration checked my passport once, when I returned into Heathrow from overseas, he was just checking to see if I were a fit and proper person, to come into my own country. Thats nothing you now have to have two items of evidence that you are a british citezen [bANNED TEXT] applying for jobs in s.yorks due to the uncontrolled ileagel immagrants that have enterd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bob.243 8,607 Posted December 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Just got back in and the wife has said a forighner has phoned from an employment agency wat has this country become [bANNED TEXT] you have to relie on immagrants for a job There was a deep coffee coloured one working for immigration checked my passport once, when I returned into Heathrow from overseas, he was just checking to see if I were a fit and proper person, to come into my own country. Thats nothing you now have to have two items of evidence that you are a british citezen [bANNED TEXT] applying for jobs in s.yorks due to the uncontrolled ileagel immagrants that have enterd What you say Poacher, doesen't surprise me in this f****d up country. That time I came into Heathrow, I was returning from Canada, a place I love, and guess what, it was a similar type person that checked my passport going out of Canada as it was when I returned to my own country, yes Canada's going down the slippery slop too, it's riddled with them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,046 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) If I was a hungry immigrant I'd want to come here and rip this country for all it's worth, and for those immigrants that do come here for that purpose I don't blame them! Why not when it's just being given up to you like that? The blame most definitely has to lie with the politicians who have allowed this to happen to us. You say that mate but at what point do these people have to take responsibility for their own actions.....and clearly being a first class ponce is their own choice leading to their own actions......i mean im sure not every immigrant who comes here has absolutely no alternative,they are not going to die if they stay put.......so where along the way do we stop being so sympathetic and say hang on a minute these people have no pride in themself or their country/race..... I left my own part of this country because i was sick of living with immigrants.....and moved to a nicer/better part of the country....i felt a total sell out,like i betrayed my own area....and thats because i moved 30 miles away !! These ponces come here waving their little flags and putting their countries stickers in their cars like they are so proud....bollocks proud,if they was proud of their country they wouldnt have deserted it !....greedy no pride c**ts i would bet less than 5 % of immigrants who come here absolutely genuinely have no choice,and even then,are we the first port of call from places like poland,of course we are not....we just pay more than anywhere else ! Edited December 2, 2009 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Only when people start to vote will the politicians start to listen. The best thing everyone can do is vote for a party that wants to stop imigration or at least slow it down. UKIP is one and obviously the BNP. Even if the BNP are a bit suspect they can't be as bad as the Labour party who've sold out this country and dragged us in to wars that are none of our business. If they want people to stop voting for the fringe parties they'll have to start listening to what the majority of this country wants. Next election will be very interesting as UKIP are fighting the Tories who should be natural allies to them and the BNP are fighting Labour in Barking where then have something like 9 councilors all ready. If anyone looked at the video I posted earlier it's British people like that that could make all the difference by voting but of course the political parties don't want them to pay attention to politics so are happy to give them a bit of dole to spend on drugs and sat in front of the telly. There are still more of us that foreign people. Finally for the record while I do find certain groups of people a bit disgusting because of the way I've seen them behave I don't have a problem with race and I think there are many people out there who've been accused of racism where they are actually prejudice against cultural ways instead. I find that to be perfectly acceptable as stoning people to death, restricting womens rights, under aged marrages, forced marrages etc etc are all deplorable. I don't look at nice well dressed people of different colour skins and hate them for it and I'll bet most people are the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bob.243 8,607 Posted December 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Well done the Swiss < http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/world/europe/8385069.stm > Quote Link to post Share on other sites
droid 11 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 BNP are fighting Labour in Barking where then have something like 9 councilors all ready. Barking. That's rather appropriate for the BNP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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