bullmastiff 615 Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 From 4-5 months old,get them in a field with ewes in lamb, they won't think about it after that! did it with the springer and the poor bugger ran straight into an electric sheep fence, got caught up and had recieved a fair few shocks by the time we managed to get him free. A keeper friend used an electric fence to stop his terrier running in a couple of whacks from one of them when it trys to get through to the sheep soon changes their mind Quote Link to post
FastDogz 155 Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 if still a no go get it put down, No dont put it down if you cant train it rehome it as a pet or something where it wont see livestock Or at least wont be loose near them. But be careful ive seen dogs shot up before on our old livery yard because they were spooking the horses...Need to get it stopped now otherwise it will end up dead anyway No offence Ian its a case of everyone differs on this i just dont agree with healthy dogs put to sleep .. Quote Link to post
twelsh 348 Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 its easy to stop them a 22 bullet gun Quote Link to post
ratcher 69 Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 its always best to brake dogs to live stock when they are young before they get to six months i find is the easiest its a must for ainy running dog jmo Quote Link to post
brock 11 Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 just try to brake them again,its a long hard process but can be done,i remember the fools on her telling me to put my dog down because the same thing happened,the bitch now lamps through sheep and runs daytime through sheep,its a nuisance tho as its always in the back of your mind. Quote Link to post
Guest MOLLY Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 its a nuisance tho as its always in the back of your mind. And it always will be once you've had a dog who has done that, even with the dogs who dont, im always watching 'just in case', never let my guard down again. MOLL. Quote Link to post
logman 0 Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 I have a bunch of Dogs here. They don't leave my property or they'll be shot. Simple as that. Here 'Stock is King. My little JR pup, eleven weeks old now, already knows not to f*** with my goats or donkey. She'll follow me about and will enter the stables. But she will not f*** with 'stock. Bottom line is: That's the only way a Dog should be brought up, if it's ever to get near 'stock. Or, as said above, someone will shoot them. Dead. Sounds a lot like my school of dog training mate,they learn early, its no problem for example, If it chases sheep, its a wolf, not a dog in my book. Quote Link to post
colliejohn 840 Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 First things first...your using this text talk bullshit so you have received a warning... Secondly...I wouldn't go advertising the fact your dog has worried some livestock....personally I would let the dog know its not to go for them, a slap round the lugholes..or whatevers needed ...and if it still persisted an electric collar..if still a no go get it put down, it will get you in big trouble.....better to break them as pups or not go anywhere near livestock which can be quite hard sometimes.. first things first, someone else on this thread used text talk so why as hasn,t he received a warning,i think your getting to personal and to far carried away with this. regards collie john. Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 First things first...your using this text talk bullshit so you have received a warning... Secondly...I wouldn't go advertising the fact your dog has worried some livestock....personally I would let the dog know its not to go for them, a slap round the lugholes..or whatevers needed ...and if it still persisted an electric collar..if still a no go get it put down, it will get you in big trouble.....better to break them as pups or not go anywhere near livestock which can be quite hard sometimes.. first things first, someone else on this thread used text talk so why as hasn,t he received a warning,i think your getting to personal and to far carried away with this. regards collie john. John, I'm not going into this shit anymore...the person you mention did receive a warning, and had them also previously....stop looking for arguements.. Quote Link to post
Guest oldskool Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 (edited) these text talking arguments are wearing very thin folks,, what about these electronic collars do they all deliver a shock or do they all vibrate like the one the lad in the pet shop tried to flog me? im pretty sure the vibration one wouldnt work that well with a dog that has his blood up Edited September 14, 2006 by oldskool Quote Link to post
Toni_Dave_17 0 Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 after having a good few working herders, as a lot of you have stated, its very very hard to get the dog to stop after its done it once. in my opinion, as IanB says a clout acros the lugoles makes your statement rather clear, and if it continues, dont take the dogs near fields with life stock. farmers are having hard enough time keeping stock up as it is with out boys letting their dog get away with things like this. TD17 Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 I had a tritronics ordered it from a distributor in the states, 2 mile radius and really packed a punch on the highest setting... Some vibrate, some beep, some are electric...the vibrate and beep functions are only really warnings to the dog to let him know hes doing something wrong, nowhere near as severe as the main shock settings...I don't really like them but if they sort a problem dog out there worth the money... Quote Link to post
mrcuban 0 Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 these text talking arguments are wearing very thin folks,, what about these electronic collars do they all deliver a shock or do they all vibrate like the one the lad in the pet shop tried to flog me? im pretty sure the vibration one wouldnt work that well with a dog that has his blood up The one i got gave a shock,but bought it from usa on ebay and had to get a convertor to charge it. Im not sure of their legal status in this country, i think the electric shock type is illegal or about to become illegal. The one ive got has 8 levels of correction. I tried it on myself first and level 2-3 gave quite a jolt!. I took my dog, a whippet, to where it had previously worried some sheep. I wasnt sure if 2-3 level was enough so i put it on 5, a bit too high looking back. I ignored the dog and advanced into the field sure enough as soon as the sheep started cantering off the dog gave chase. As soon as it got within 20 yards i let it have it Sapp!! I know it might seem cruel but it was quite funny. Like something in a cartoon the dog just stopped dead and ran cowering back.The dog was very subdued for the rest of the walk. I cant recommend them enough for stopping stockworrying. My model is a sport dog, sport hunter 1200, 3/4 mile range 8 levels. Ive only used it twice on two different dogs the results are immediate. How good they would be on bull cross or collie cross i dont know. However level 8 im sure would drop the dog to the ground! Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Mrcuban I'm 100% on highest setting the dog would hit the ground...but in the wrong hands they can do a lot more harm than good... Quote Link to post
mrcuban 0 Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Mrcuban I'm 100% on highest setting the dog would hit the ground...but in the wrong hands they can do a lot more harm than good... Yes i agree they are a last resort and are not to be used indiscriminately. However my dog had worried sheep on three occasions before. Resulting in me charging after it pleading and cursing it to stop. Alas it was to no avail the dog has to be punished in the act for it to connect the pain with the action. Quote Link to post
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