Shamo 319 Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 Little bit of nostalgia. You Tube.....'Rabbits and Badgers(1923) Pathe' news. Says 'Blue Terriers' don't know if older name for 'Kerry Blue' Quote Link to post
stop.end 4,079 Posted July 9, 2015 Report Share Posted July 9, 2015 That's the thing I don't claim to know much about Kerry blues but there was blue/slate coated terriers for hundreds of years nowhere near as big and bulky as the Kerry blue, then the KC brigade made them popular at shows set a standard and conformation and then the Kerry blue became a breed with a wind in the willows story to go with it.... a fella used to do a small bit with us 90-91 he had 2 different ones at different times and another man I knew had 1 so I have been around 3... never thought there was much use for the so called Kerry blue to be truthful! 1 Quote Link to post
bushranger 19 Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 To settle the origin and History of the Kerry Blue, its a variant of the Irish Terrier and would be campaigned by Gerard Pierce as a Fighting dog and general purpose farm dog, he was a breeder and breed club treasurer of the Irish blue Terrier club, for 10 years, many of today's dogs can be traced back to his tested dogs. when England started showing Kerry Blues and trimming begun he rejected it stating they should be shown in the rough. So when In Ireland it was accepted to trim Kerrys in the English fashion he used his wheaten colored Kerrys, because they were not breeding true for color yet, to start the soft coated wheaten Terrier, the first Wheaten champion belonged to him. He gave it a fancy history as he had done before when breeding Kerry Blues, so as to get the dog recognized as a breed. So both breeds are nearly same thing different color, but in its pure form, pure registered I think he could still be the King of the Irish Terrier Breeds. 2 Quote Link to post
bushranger 19 Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Pierse stating Kerry the breeds utility in Ireland Quote Link to post
bushranger 19 Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 http://ingrus.net/kerry/en/details.php?id=3182 Quote Link to post
bushranger 19 Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 As you can see Black and tan pup and Wheaten colored pups in pure Kerry blue Terrier litter. The Black and Tan Terrier is said to be a common ancestor to the Irish Terrier who in the beginning came in wheaten and blue also Black and tan, until only red was permitted. 1 Quote Link to post
bushranger 19 Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) The Irish Kennel club was responsible for creating the Irish Badger tests of gameness, and they were Kerry Blue Terrier people, Many thought dog fighting was the maximum test of gameness, but that was ilegal by then. Edited July 11, 2015 by bushranger Quote Link to post
Lenmcharristar 9,721 Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 Good reading bushranger 1 Quote Link to post
Lusitano 294 Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 History is 1 thing the bottom line is that in today's day and age the irish and kerry have a bad reputation with working folk... The Irish terrier is another breed that I've heard rumours of some examples being worked by a select few but to this day I've not found them! 1 Quote Link to post
bushranger 19 Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) I think the most qualified opinions here know what a working strong dog looks like or feel like going over them under the coat feeling whats there, and how they should behave. If they have a likening for any of the Irish Terrier breeds go and look at the parents and get a pup...none of them are suitable breeds for everybody, you have to like terriers, you personality has to go with them, I can tell you of a litter of Kerry, that 3 of the pups were bought as pets one put down, the other was given away to a boar hunter and the other ended up given away to an active old pensioner that loved the dog and attitude. Dogs inherit there parents characteristics most usually, But for work you will have to test and see, some people need more dog for the work they intend they should look to another breed. But the Kerry Blue in its best examples will still perform to a degree as his forefathers did before, that is my opinion, Edited July 13, 2015 by bushranger Quote Link to post
bushranger 19 Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 I had 3 show staffords before,, also an apbt x sbt, and I enjoy the Kerry Blue. Quote Link to post
THE GENERAL 1,982 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) Terriermen at a show in the 60s. Co. Carlow I believe. Edited June 1, 2016 by THE GENERAL 10 Quote Link to post
THE GENERAL 1,982 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 James Eddie with Hacketstown Jack 4 Quote Link to post
Lenmcharristar 9,721 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 James Eddie with Hacketstown Jackis the line of hacketts town hack still going??? I'd def love one of the wheatens Quote Link to post
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