Hollie 21 Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 I'm sure i have read on here that you shouldn't breed a whippet/beddie with another whippet/beddie Can anyone give me info as to why not?? I know Bedlington terrriers can carry Copper Toxicosis but i just wanted to clarify if you can/should put these mixes together sorry for being Quote Link to post
the lamping ferreter 160 Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 I'm sure i have read on here that you shouldn't breed a whippet/beddie with another whippet/beddie Can anyone give me info as to why not?? I know Bedlington terrriers can carry Copper Toxicosis but i just wanted to clarify if you can/should put these mixes together sorry for being no reasion why not its just puting a lurcher x lurcher Quote Link to post
daz280597 4 Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 cant see why not ya can put anything over any dog ya like yours been beed together so how ya think they keep the lines going Quote Link to post
jarvie 0 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 its the same arguement for breeding any 2 1\2 crosses together theres a chance of pups throwing back to one of the parents ie if you breed 2 1\2cross beddy whippets together you are bound to get a pup going back too much to the beddy thus being too small for the job hope this helps Quote Link to post
miss lurcher bitch 319 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 i did this breeding 3 times a few yrs back all turned out good dogs atb mlb Quote Link to post
Wild_and_Irish 11 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Any 1/2 x to 1/2 x will give pups throwin more to one side than the other because genes don't work like fractions, the only lurcher x lurcher I think you're not supposed to breed is a merle x merle because it will throw white pups which sometimes end up being deaf. Quote Link to post
sh 08 17 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Pardon lol Quote Link to post
omark 0 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Good topic...Yes,you can breed two bedlington based lurchers together..,provided the bedlingtons which have been used to create the lurchers you plan to breed from were tested and declared free from copper -toxicosis. otherwise you run the risk of mating together two potential carriers of the disease,which will mean that a percentage of your pups will be healthy BUT also be genetic carriers of the disease to pass on to future generations OR,some could be full blown with the disease. This means they are born with a liver which retains copper salts,this usually kills them from about the age of 2yrs onwards. There is already enough dogs bred for the show benches full of inhereted genetic disorders,without us..,people trying to breed good HEALTHY working dogs,adding to the problems long term. Hope this helps. Quote Link to post
k94v 12 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Good topic...Yes,you can breed two bedlington based lurchers together..,provided the bedlingtons which have been used to create the lurchers you plan to breed from were tested and declared free from copper -toxicosis. otherwise you run the risk of mating together two potential carriers of the disease,which will mean that a percentage of your pups will be healthy BUT also be genetic carriers of the disease to pass on to future generations OR,some could be full blown with the disease. This means they are born with a liver which retains copper salts,this usually kills them from about the age of 2yrs onwards. There is already enough dogs bred for the show benches full of inhereted genetic disorders,without us..,people trying to breed good HEALTHY working dogs,adding to the problems long term. Hope this helps. hi omark at what age would you get a pup tested for copper toxicosis iam geting a pup soon the sire is a working beddy and the dam is a working whippet thanks and regs steve Quote Link to post
Hollie 21 Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Good topic...Yes,you can breed two bedlington based lurchers together..,provided the bedlingtons which have been used to create the lurchers you plan to breed from were tested and declared free from copper -toxicosis. otherwise you run the risk of mating together two potential carriers of the disease,which will mean that a percentage of your pups will be healthy BUT also be genetic carriers of the disease to pass on to future generations OR,some could be full blown with the disease. This means they are born with a liver which retains copper salts,this usually kills them from about the age of 2yrs onwards. There is already enough dogs bred for the show benches full of inhereted genetic disorders,without us..,people trying to breed good HEALTHY working dogs,adding to the problems long term. Hope this helps. Thank you That makes perfect sense Quote Link to post
omark 0 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Hiya k94v,idealy the sire to your pup could have been tested before putting him across the whippet. Doom and gloom aside though this disorder is nowhere near as rampant as it once was. Couldnt really advise you on what age to get a pup tested,you would be better asking a good vet. What i can tell you is that a pup bred like yours{beddy terrier mated to whippet} will never manifest problems of copper toxicosis,at the worst it could be a carrier. If it were me mate i wouldnt worry yet,id see whether or not your pup turns out an exellent worker. If u decide in the future its worth breeding from then maybe get it tested before you decide to get it mated,cos for breeding you dont need to be 100 percent...,you need to be 110 percent! Quote Link to post
k94v 12 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Hiya k94v,idealy the sire to your pup could have been tested before putting him across the whippet. Doom and gloom aside though this disorder is nowhere near as rampant as it once was. Couldnt really advise you on what age to get a pup tested,you would be better asking a good vet. What i can tell you is that a pup bred like yours{beddy terrier mated to whippet} will never manifest problems of copper toxicosis,at the worst it could be a carrier. If it were me mate i wouldnt worry yet,id see whether or not your pup turns out an exellent worker. If u decide in the future its worth breeding from then maybe get it tested before you decide to get it mated,cos for breeding you dont need to be 100 percent...,you need to be 110 percent! thanks for the info mate iam geting this pup for work ect not to breed with later on unless it tests clear agian thanks for info regs steve Quote Link to post
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