.222 V .223

[Big Dog222 0]

The age old debate: .222 V .223. It may be an old debate until you are like me, about to change your rifle which is a .222 and can't make your mind up wheather to stay with what you know or go for something new?????????

 

What is it for? I shoot fox mostly by lamp. I love the .222 but as foxes get more lamp shy they don't come in so far so the .223 may be better. That said being honest there is only so far I can shoot out to of sticks (100yrds) and need to be prone to go further. I have shot fox at 180yrs with the .222.

 

So what do I do?? I really can't decide . Once I change that's it I can't reverse it for years to come.

 

Is there really a big difference. I think the .223 would give me a more positive hit at 200yrs with more energy if using 55g vmax.

 

Has anyone used both over a longer time who can give objective feedback.

[Deker 3,478]

The age old debate: .222 V .223. It may be an old debate until you are like me, about to change your rifle which is a .222 and can't make your mind up wheather to stay with what you know or go for something new?????????

 

What is it for? I shoot fox mostly by lamp. I love the .222 but as foxes get more lamp shy they don't come in so far so the .223 may be better. That said being honest there is only so far I can shoot out to of sticks (100yrds) and need to be prone to go further. I have shot fox at 180yrs with the .222.

 

So what do I do?? I really can't decide . Once I change that's it I can't reverse it for years to come.

 

Is there really a big difference. I think the .223 would give me a more positive hit at 200yrs with more energy if using 55g vmax.

 

Has anyone used both over a longer time who can give objective feedback.

 

 

I've not had a .222, but know those that have/do, I have a .223 and there is not a lot of difference at all, but logically a .223 is the tool to buy today over a .222.

 

But if you already have a .222 you are not going to notice any great difference at all to a .223, perhaps just an edge!

 

If the situation does dictate a change of gun I would nevertheless suggest you consider a .223 carefully!

 

Both are more than capable of fox at the distance you suggest and further!

[Mr_Logic 5]

given that you have a 222, and are thinking about reaching out that bit further, 22-250 may be better for you.

 

223 is a good calibre, better than 222 in terms of energy, but the difference is so slight it's not worth changing from one to the other, merely that if you have neither, 223 is the one to get.

 

22-250 will give you a good bit more velocity than either one, and as such represents something properly different.

[JohnGalway 1,043]

Been shooting rabbits out to 285 with my .223 lately, once I get more used to the longer range stuff it'll easily go farther. Farthest fox so far for me is 270, which surprised me by feeling real easy. Try the .223, roll your own brass soldiers if you can and don't look back.

 

I'm using 40 grain Hornadys and have shot several foxes over 200 yards, they don't complain, they just go down and lights out if I do my bit. 55 grain will give you better performance in the wind but more drop, depends really how far out you want to shoot the red lads.

Edited November 21, 2009 by JohnGalway

[jamie g 17]

as said your not going to get much more performance. so i would keep what you have or go up to 22/250 lazer flat and anything over dial over

[bob.243 8,800]

as said your not going to get much more performance. so i would keep what you have or go up to 22/250 lazer flat and anything over dial over

Here here, .22-250 is the one.

[coldweld 65]

given that you have a 222, and are thinking about reaching out that bit further, 22-250 may be better for you.

 

223 is a good calibre, better than 222 in terms of energy, but the difference is so slight it's not worth changing from one to the other, merely that if you have neither, 223 is the one to get.

 

22-250 will give you a good bit more velocity than either one, and as such represents something properly different.

 

 

Fully agree !!

[deerstalker32 0]

forget the .22-250 you could run faster than that!

what you want is the 5.6x61 vom hofe super express

[Big Dog222 0]

Hi guys, thanks for the honest objective feedback, I appreciate it. I had this reply ready to post and lost it so this one will be brief. I have only ever use a 22/250 once in the USA on a one day shoot out with a friends M8s which it is worth noting one gun was a Thompson Sub Machine Gun and an AR15. Ok what happened to brief. In N. Ireland where I live field are much smaller than what you guys shoot on.

 

Here is my fears of buying a 22/250 for lamping:

~ Noise at night (even though I would still moderate it)

~ Muzzel flash impacting night vision

~ Recoil moving me of the target eye line when fired

~ Extra cost to feed.

~ Barrel wear, .22 round going much faster that the .222.

 

Like I said, I have no experience of this calibre so I am basing my opinions on my assumsions and what I have read. I would like to hear from those who have 22/250s what you think on my fears.

 

Regards

[willum 89]

i have a tika t3 lite stainless black synthetic with t8 spitting 50 grain winchester silver tips and i would say this is one awsome peice of kit very fast flat and very effective when comes to charley yes you do get a bit of a muzzle flip and the sonic crack is not that bad by the time you have the cross hair on your target and pulled the trigger your quarry is down the muzzle flip dosent come into it imo and i have never really seen muzzle flash either i would not swap mine for the world but am now thinking on the lines of 243 as a day time gun and allrounder for deer. and am looking to get nv for the 22.250. hope this answers some questions

[Big Dog222 0]

Willum, thanks it good to hear from the real deal if you know what I mean. My other problem is rifle choice. I own a Pro-Hunter Mountian Mk2 (20" barrel with ART8 Mod) Shoot great. What I don't like is the single set trigger as I have miss fire just below the fox coming up unto them. The miss was only 4 or 6" but it an unintended miss. The other problem I have with this gun is that when re-cycling a round often she will load two up and jam, a pain in the rear when a fox demands a 2nd kick. Now here is the funny bit. I have a Pro-Hunter std in 6.5x55 ss and syn and I love this gun. The standard trigger in not a heavy as the .222 and I always use that on deer, but I am alway prone on deer and have more time.

 

I wanted to change the .222 to a Sako 85 syn and SS but found out today that Sako do not do the 85 in this model in .22 or .223. So getting a good riffle in what ever round I go for seems to be getting as hard to find and making my mind up on calibre.

 

Thanks again.

[willum 89]

sako or tikka cant really go wrong never had the problem of jaming on re load or touchy trigger mine shoots like a dream. see if you can get to have a go on one somewhere or a freinds try before buy.

[Mr_Logic 5]

Hi guys, thanks for the honest objective feedback, I appreciate it. I had this reply ready to post and lost it so this one will be brief. I have only ever use a 22/250 once in the USA on a one day shoot out with a friends M8s which it is worth noting one gun was a Thompson Sub Machine Gun and an AR15. Ok what happened to brief. In N. Ireland where I live field are much smaller than what you guys shoot on.

 

Here is my fears of buying a 22/250 for lamping:

~ Noise at night (even though I would still moderate it)

~ Muzzel flash impacting night vision

~ Recoil moving me of the target eye line when fired

~ Extra cost to feed.

~ Barrel wear, .22 round going much faster that the .222.

 

Like I said, I have no experience of this calibre so I am basing my opinions on my assumsions and what I have read. I would like to hear from those who have 22/250s what you think on my fears.

 

Regards

 

In order:

 

-- Yes, it'll be a little bit louder. Not enough to worry about.

-- Doubt it will be a problem, with a moderator there isn't much.

-- Yes, you will notice this. Equally the thump will be that much louder so you will hear the strike.

-- If you're not shooting rabbits and so on, you won't notice it.

-- Same as previous.

 

HTH!

[Big Dog222 0]

This is were we have the opportunity to self-regulate and show that we are a trustworthy bunch, so:

~ Report him to the permission

~ Report your concern to the police, you are not saying this is fact, just what you have been told, it up to them to investigate.

~ You are not grassing on the shooting fraternity, you are protecting shooting sport and SPORTMEN AND WOMEN.

 

Its your call

[jamie g 17]

never seen any flash from mine when using it at night with a mod on. if you had a 22/250 with a short barrel you mite see it.

average barrel lenght is around 24 inch's tho so shouldnt be a problem.

 

as for extra noise get aq good mod and your sorted. as for the rifle does it have to be a sako ? yes build is better then most rifles but wont shoot any better then some of the other make rifles.

 

savage rifles worth a look. not as refinded as the sako but soild and accuracy will be spot on. i would go as far to say as best out the box accuracy of any factory rifle. look at the reviews they speak for them self