camokid 125 Posted November 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 is the fox in the pic starving.. did it get away... did it die slow... is it bleeding to death.. no so what the fek u on about... it was a close cleen kill no pain and suffering for the animal l shot 1 dead fox. cause im not trying to hit them at 300 yards Quote Link to post
hiluxmk3 1 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 im saying it will kill anything you hit HIT THE FOX ON THE SHOULDER BLADE WITH YOU HMR @ 50 YDS IT WILL RUN OFF INJURED !!! we that reply are only trying to inform you of what will happen if you miss place the shotwith your hmr, i have only been shooting FOXES for 35 years what do i know,i am still learning to this day, but as for your replies YOU KNOW IT ALL KID... Quote Link to post
craigyboy 1,274 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 im saying it will kill anything you hit HIT THE FOX ON THE SHOULDER BLADE WITH YOU HMR @ 50 YDS IT WILL RUN OFF INJURED !!! we that reply are only trying to inform you of what will happen if you miss place the shotwith your hmr, i have only been shooting FOXES for 35 years what do i know,i am still learning to this day, but as for your replies YOU KNOW IT ALL KID... Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 UNfortunately camokid, looks like you are going to have to learn the hard way. Shame about the fox that you will injure by not knowing your rifle's limitations. Even bigger shame that you aren't responsible enough to heed sound advice. I'm not saying that you should not shoot the odd fox with HMR, because it will work if used correctly. However, with the attitude "This HMR will stop anything" you will inevitably run into trouble because that's utter tripe. If you were prepared to accept the round's limitations, because, on the grand scheme of things, it's just a popgun, then you could use it properly and not maim any animals or cause any suffering. But hey ho. Quote Link to post
FLATTOP 4,407 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 I have shot 1 fox with my .17 HMR at about 100 yds i dropped it but when i went up to it i had to stick another round in it to kill it not the ideal round i only use it on small prey now, when we go out we use the 223 for the foxes and the .17 for the bunnys listen to the advice mate its good advice. Quote Link to post
dave1372 83 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Well done, nice looking dog fox that, any idea how old? Quote Link to post
RicW 67 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 rabbit gun my ars.. its classed as a vermin/fox gun my feo told me and its on my licence.. yes it needs to be close up to 70 yards or so..iv taken all big stuff head shots nothings got away yet. YOU must be a good shot, hope when on the target range , you are only making 1 hole on the target sheet with all your shots , no pattern as they all go through the same hole. Head shots GREAT if between the eye and the ear, 1st time you hit in front of the eye....OFF GOES 1 VERY BADLY MAMED FOX, IT WONT DIE FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS AS THERE WONT BE ENOUGH LOSS OF BLOOD, HOWEVER IT WILL DIE OF STARVATION AS IT WONT BE ABLE TO EAT 10 - 15 DAYS SHOULD KILL IT !!!!!! listen to the advice some guys are telling you this is what this FORUM is all about, helping out others, if you want to shoot FOXES please give them a bit of respect and use a suitable calibre for the JOB. Your FAC officer is talking bull shit if he says your hmr is OK for FOX. NOT having a go at you, more aimed at the FAC officer who told you it was good for FOX....Get a 2nd opinion A few weeks ago there was a post in this forum from a guy who was bragging about shooting a fox in the eye with a sub-12 airgun. He went on to make these really funny ha-ha remarks about how when he got his HMR he would be chasing a fox with a pirate eye patch. He described himself as "Camo-kids Brother". Camokid thinks the great thing about HMR is it "smashes up rabbits". I leave you to draw your own conclusions gentlemen. RicW Quote Link to post
langouroux 14 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 camokid...... im not much of a foxer however i will say this. most people on here will have shot foxes with .17HMR and .22LR because if your out lamping and one steps in front of you then your not going to miss the opportunity of knocking over old charlie. HOWEVER most people also on here wouldn't go out intentionally for foxes with this caliber due to reasons already explained by the MAJORITY. loads of people shot foxes with the .17HMR there was even an article in sporting rifle recently about some clay pigeon champ shooting them with his .17HMR ( if my memory serves me right) but its just not a preferred fox round. i have fox for my .22LR but as it not the "preferred" caliber so i don't use it. the 22-250 and above are "real" fox calibers and should be stuck to where possible. Quote Link to post
heritage 202 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 RicW i was thinking exactly the same thing........ Quote Link to post
pink head 28 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 rabbit gun my ars.. its classed as a vermin/fox gun my feo told me and its on my licence.. yes it needs to be close up to 70 yards or so..iv taken all big stuff head shots nothings got away yet. YOU must be a good shot, hope when on the target range , you are only making 1 hole on the target sheet with all your shots , no pattern as they all go through the same hole. Head shots GREAT if between the eye and the ear, 1st time you hit in front of the eye....OFF GOES 1 VERY BADLY MAMED FOX, IT WONT DIE FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS AS THERE WONT BE ENOUGH LOSS OF BLOOD, HOWEVER IT WILL DIE OF STARVATION AS IT WONT BE ABLE TO EAT 10 - 15 DAYS SHOULD KILL IT !!!!!! listen to the advice some guys are telling you this is what this FORUM is all about, helping out others, if you want to shoot FOXES please give them a bit of respect and use a suitable calibre for the JOB. Your FAC officer is talking bull shit if he says your hmr is OK for FOX. NOT having a go at you, more aimed at the FAC officer who told you it was good for FOX....Get a 2nd opinion cruel c**t . its us lurcher boys get the shit tho Quote Link to post
dicehorn 38 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 UNfortunately camokid, looks like you are going to have to learn the hard way. Shame about the fox that you will injure by not knowing your rifle's limitations. Even bigger shame that you aren't responsible enough to heed sound advice. I'm not saying that you should not shoot the odd fox with HMR, because it will work if used correctly. However, with the attitude "This HMR will stop anything" you will inevitably run into trouble because that's utter tripe. If you were prepared to accept the round's limitations, because, on the grand scheme of things, it's just a popgun, then you could use it properly and not maim any animals or cause any suffering. But hey ho. Trying to educate pork comes to mind Quote Link to post
Dan_Smiff 2 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Good shot mate - I do however agree with the majority of the advice given in this thread, the HMR should nver be used as a full time fox tool, because it isn't one. My Steyr with my new 87gn vmax homeloads, now that's a fox tool! If you have foxes that need to be shot then you have the perfect reason for a variation - good times! Quote Link to post
camokid 125 Posted November 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 this is grate most of you sound like anti's cant belive it im within the law to shoot fox's with the 17hmr on all my 8'000 acres of land the fox in the pic did not get away hurt or bleeding. i sat there for 5 hour's in the same spot waiting for him to come along his run it was a safe 50 yard shot i was on target after zeroing in that day yes might not be a rifle perfect for a fox at 300 hundred yards shooting out your car window but if i no he will come in to a safe distance theres not an issue. thanks for the odd good coment Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 You are COMPLETELY missing the point. Nobody is saying that the fox in question was killed in any way but humanely. However, your comments, basically summarised as "HMR is awesome and it kills anything" are the sorts of comments that lead to longer shots on foxes in the future, and thus injured foxes. It is those comments that I am criticising because you're talking crap, and you NEED to listen in order to avoid issues IN THE FUTURE. And if you are shooting on 8000 acres, you need a bigger gun anyway - you will have those longer shots, very soon you will find the HMR restrictive as 100 yards isn't a long way! Quote Link to post
polski 0 Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 the 22-250 and above are "real" fox calibers and should be stuck to where possible. Why 22-250 and above? the hornet, .222, .223 are more than adequate fox calibres. Rick. Quote Link to post
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