working terrier

[dogs-n-natives 1,182]

cheers wexford mate i apprieciate your answer. would you say that is the view of most earth dog owners? my thought would be( and this is only my opinion, i dont want to offend anybody) a working terrier would be a terrier that did any form of pest control that was asked/expected/required of it

fair point mate

 

But terriers exist purely because of earthwork, this is their true line of work. Yes they will take to other jobs, and do them well. So for me a 'working terrier' is an earth worker, a digging dog.

[wexford Pa 84]

cheers wexford mate i apprieciate your answer. would you say that is the view of most earth dog owners? my thought would be( and this is only my opinion, i dont want to offend anybody) a working terrier would be a terrier that did any form of pest control that was asked/expected/required of it

Exactly dogs n natives, terriers for terrier work which in turn are working terriers which is earth work.. Yes they can do other jobs and can do them well but if a terrier cant do earth work its not a working terrier..

[paulk73 151]

cheers guys , thanks for your thoughts, and opinions. atb

[unforgiven 0]

Reading a book just now and cme accross this topic, heres a little insite ..

 

The work of a terrier is,or was,the destruction of vermin-rats,weasels,stoats,hedgehogs,foxes,otters and ofcourse badgers-and the word terrier originally implied a small dog used for this purpose. With the coming of dog-shows owners were providedwith another object for which such dogs might be bredand used-the winning of prizes to be awarded for make and shape and general apperance-and at the present time far more terriers are bred for show than for work. There are in the British Isles many distinct breeds most,if all,ofwhich originated in working strains.It is difficult to believe that an Airedale or a Kerry Blue of the size of modern representatives of those breeds could have been used to bolt fox, but the Skye, the Scottish or Aberdeen, the Dandie Dinmont, the Border, the York-shire, the Bedlington, the Irish, the Welsh the Wire and Smooth Fox-terriers, the Sealyham and others are undoubtedly the descendants of hard-bitten little dogs employed in the keeping down of vermin.

There are those who belive that the annual hound show held at Peterblorough has done infinite harm to the foxhound, in that it has caused masters of hounds to breed for looks rather than work. While not necessarily supporting that view, I think none will deny that there must be temptation to use a stallion hound one which has taken a coveted first at Peterborough, even if his capabilities in the field are only mediocre,rather than the hound which though he can drag up to and unkennel his fox when no other hound in the pack can own the line, and moreover is a tireless worker with a beautiful voice, yet lacks certain of those points of conformation which the show-bench requires.The rule that no hound may be exhibited unless it belongs to a recognised pack, and the natural desire of all masters of the hounds to show sport and kill foxes,ensures that the working capabilities of the hounds selected for breeding are not entirely lost sight of, but the same cannot be said of terriers for show use there dogs for work, in fact not many have the opportunity, consequently the present-day studbook terrier is, gernerally speaking, a dog which even with careful training will not make a first class working terrier. This remark applies more particularly to those breeds which have been bred for show for Generations.

It must be borne in mind that the fact that the terrier will kill a rat does not entitle it to be classed as a "working terrier"; this term usually applied to one which has been entered to fox otter or badger. A terrier may be "of a working stain" but it is not, sticktly speaking, a "working terrier" until it has been to ground and faced fox, otter or badger in the dark, and it is not a really good working terrier until it can and will do very much more than that. A dog which has earned the title may be a likened to a man in the days of our forefathers who won his spurs on the field of battle ; it is an honour not to be in herited but to be fought for.

Hope that clears most up .

[gripperbhoy 5]

Argee with the above

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Reading a book just now and cme accross this topic, heres a little insite ..

 

The work of a terrier is,or was,the destruction of vermin-rats,weasels,stoats,hedgehogs,foxes,otters and ofcourse badgers-and the word terrier originally implied a small dog used for this purpose. With the coming of dog-shows owners were providedwith another object for which such dogs might be bredand used-the winning of prizes to be awarded for make and shape and general apperance-and at the present time far more terriers are bred for show than for work. There are in the British Isles many distinct breeds most,if all,ofwhich originated in working strains.It is difficult to believe that an Airedale or a Kerry Blue of the size of modern representatives of those breeds could have been used to bolt fox, but the Skye, the Scottish or Aberdeen, the Dandie Dinmont, the Border, the York-shire, the Bedlington, the Irish, the Welsh the Wire and Smooth Fox-terriers, the Sealyham and others are undoubtedly the descendants of hard-bitten little dogs employed in the keeping down of vermin.

There are those who belive that the annual hound show held at Peterblorough has done infinite harm to the foxhound, in that it has caused masters of hounds to breed for looks rather than work. While not necessarily supporting that view, I think none will deny that there must be temptation to use a stallion hound one which has taken a coveted first at Peterborough, even if his capabilities in the field are only mediocre,rather than the hound which though he can drag up to and unkennel his fox when no other hound in the pack can own the line, and moreover is a tireless worker with a beautiful voice, yet lacks certain of those points of conformation which the show-bench requires.The rule that no hound may be exhibited unless it belongs to a recognised pack, and the natural desire of all masters of the hounds to show sport and kill foxes,ensures that the working capabilities of the hounds selected for breeding are not entirely lost sight of, but the same cannot be said of terriers for show use there dogs for work, in fact not many have the opportunity, consequently the present-day studbook terrier is, gernerally speaking, a dog which even with careful training will not make a first class working terrier. This remark applies more particularly to those breeds which have been bred for show for Generations.

It must be borne in mind that the fact that the terrier will kill a rat does not entitle it to be classed as a "working terrier"; this term usually applied to one which has been entered to fox otter or badger. A terrier may be "of a working stain" but it is not, sticktly speaking, a "working terrier" until it has been to ground and faced fox, otter or badger in the dark, and it is not a really good working terrier until it can and will do very much more than that. A dog which has earned the title may be a likened to a man in the days of our forefathers who won his spurs on the field of battle ; it is an honour not to be in herited but to be fought for.

Hope that clears most up .

 

 

[jack1988 0]

as long as they find , hold and stay 2 the end thats good enough for me