JohnGalway 1,043 Posted December 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Here's a question, how does a person keep badgers out of these traps? Seeing as how ordinary snares aren't baited. Quote Link to post
OldTrapCollector 377 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Here's a question, how does a person keep badgers out of these traps? Seeing as how ordinary snares aren't baited. I would also be interested to hear the answer to this question OTC Quote Link to post
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted December 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 I would also be interested to hear the answer to this question OTC I know the American sites sell different types of lures as a trigger bait. I wonder can it be that specific, I must email them and ask. Quote Link to post
OldTrapCollector 377 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 (edited) OTC Edited December 13, 2009 by OldTrapCollector Quote Link to post
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted December 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 You can't beat the yanks for a quick reply. This is what I asked. "I have been looking at your collarum trap, and talking to friends about it. The thing we have been wondering about is has the trap been tested in areas containing badgers as well as canines. Over here in Ireland the badger is a protected species and anyone caught killing one can get in a lot of trouble. I like the collarum as another tool in the arsenal against the red fox, but am concerned about badgers getting caught up in them, both for their sake, equipment damage and the associated destruction of the immediate area by the caught badger. Can you shed any light on the above for me please?" This is what I got back. "To my knowledge the Collarum was tested in two locations that contain populations of badgers, i.e. Texas and Colorado. In the 10+ years of my involvement with the Collarum I have never heard or seen it catch a badger. The Collarum is SPECIES-SPECIFIC , meaning it will only capture species that elicit a "bite & pull" response. This limits it to capturing canines only. It will not catch cats of any type, raccoon, etc. for that very reason...............they don't bite and pull, and I don't believe a badger would elicit this response either. Thats not to say they won't set the device off by pawing it, or playing with it, but they won't be captured." Quote Link to post
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted December 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 One of the short sighted problems with this trap is that it was never tested on foxes in Canada - none of their traps are. It appears that the boffins at DEFRA have accepted that since it works on coyotes it will, therefore, work on our foxes. And they don't have badgers there either - at least not like ours. I cannot imagine for one second that it won't catch badgers - if it doesn't then I would dearly love to know how it differentiates between one and the other ... Any one know? 120-2?? OTC Just wondering why you specify Canada OTC. I know, or at least I think, that the grey fox is the more numerous fox in the USA but they have red lads over there too. Their badgers are different though, you're right. Quote Link to post
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted December 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 First email was to WCS, just fired off another to Magnum Quote Link to post
OldTrapCollector 377 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 (edited) OTC Edited December 13, 2009 by OldTrapCollector Quote Link to post
OldTrapCollector 377 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 (edited) OTC Edited December 13, 2009 by OldTrapCollector Quote Link to post
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted December 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Strange that they don't trial fox traps as you say. Probably be Monday before Magnum get back to me. What're the DOC traps by the by? Quote Link to post
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted December 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Strange that they don't trial fox traps as you say. Probably be Monday before Magnum get back to me. Not for the first time I'm wrong Magnum are enquiring into the badger situation, they've received a few similar questions to mine. Quote Link to post
moley 115 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 i,m quite suprised that the collarum is getting such a bad press from you lads on here without giving it a go , even if its used to catch urdan foxes or in certain situations , then surely another string to any trappers bow is a good one, these things are fitted with breakaways and stops just like the ones glen is showing everyone so they can be species spacific and release badgers and cats just like the snares we use now Quote Link to post
OldTrapCollector 377 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 i,m quite suprised that the collarum is getting such a bad press from you lads on here without giving it a go Who said that I hadn't tried the trap? OTC Quote Link to post
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted December 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 i,m quite suprised that the collarum is getting such a bad press from you lads on here without giving it a go , even if its used to catch urdan foxes or in certain situations , then surely another string to any trappers bow is a good one, these things are fitted with breakaways and stops just like the ones glen is showing everyone so they can be species spacific and release badgers and cats just like the snares we use now I haven't used it. I'd just like to clarify I've no intention of giving the trap bad press either. I quite like the idea. Like everything new I've a few questions all the same. Quote Link to post
OldTrapCollector 377 Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Has anyone with any experience with using the Collarum trap got any feedback on its performance in the field? PM me if you don't want to post on the open forum - but I would be interested to hear what you have to say OTC Quote Link to post
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