shotgun certificate

[borntoshoot 1]

hi all, soon me and my dad will be applying for shotgun certs, (iknow i have been saying this for months but i am deffo going to give it on very soon)

anyway, i have my referee and she has signed mine but i want to know can she also sign my dads?

 

she has known us both for 8 years and she is a teacher so should be ok for me but can she do both?

[tallpauljcb1 5]

i think so mate or ya dad can ask his boss to sign it i got me girlfriend mate to sign mine she from the council

Edited November 14, 2009 by tallpauljcb1

[andycanman 0]

As long as they are 21 or over uk resident and have known you 2 year or more anyone can sign it does not matter about there social standing.

[slogger 13]

As long as they are 21 or over uk resident and have known you 2 year or more anyone can sign it does not matter about there social standing.

Now i didnt know that bit about them being anyone over 21 , i always thought they had to be some sort of proffesional

 

Does this apply to fac too

[Deker 3,478]

hi all, soon me and my dad will be applying for shotgun certs, (iknow i have been saying this for months but i am deffo going to give it on very soon)

anyway, i have my referee and she has signed mine but i want to know can she also sign my dads?

 

she has known us both for 8 years and she is a teacher so should be ok for me but can she do both?

 

If she meets the background criteria she can sign both!

[fazerthou 2]

andycanman I think you may have got it wrong.

 

For a FAC application you must have 2 referees who can be "anybody" as long as they are not relatives or Police and over 21 and have known you for 6 months to a number of years, they both have to fill in a full reference sheet and send it in separately with out you seeing it.Each one can referee for the whole family as long as the fit the requirements.

 

On a Shotgun application you have 1 counter signature, who MUST be a professional, accountable person of standing ??? ie MP, Dentist, solicitor, Doctor, Nurse, somebody with qualification letters after their name who you have known personally for at least 2 years, and they can also sign for the whole family if you want and they the fit the requirements.

 

 

This can be quite hard for most people, and they have to be happy to sign, (when i 1st applied for mine back in the early 70's my Dr was an anti and she refused to sign it, nothing i could do about it) most Doctors will sign today no problem, but they will charge for it.

 

" WARNING"**** YOU MUST PUT ANY NICK NICKS, CAUTIONS, SPEEDING TICKETS ETC DOWN ON THE APPLICATION, THEY WILL CHECK, AND IF YOU HAVEN'T PUT IT DOWN THEY CAN REFUSE YOU.

 

IF YOU PUT IT DOWN, AND THEY REFUSE, YOU CAN APPEAL. I KNOW SOMEBODY ON THEIR FAC APPLICATION WHO WAS PICKED UP ON A MINOR OFFENCE THAT HAPPENED, 35 YEARS AGO!!! WHICH THEY HADN'T PUT DOWN.

 

BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY, BE HONEST, THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR, A LAW ABIDING, SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE, DESCENT CITIZEN.

 

Hope this helps

Edited November 15, 2009 by fazerthou

[stubby 175]

andycanman I think you may have got it wrong.

 

For a FAC application you must have 2 referees who can be "anybody" as long as they are not relatives or Police and over 21 and have known you for 6 months to a number of years, they both have to fill in a full reference sheet and send it in separately with out you seeing it.Each one can referee for the whole family as long as the fit the requirements.

 

On a Shotgun application you have 1 counter signature, who MUST be a professional, accountable person of standing ??? ie MP, Dentist, solicitor, Doctor, Nurse, somebody with qualification letters after their name who you have known personally for at least 2 years, and they can also sign for the whole family if you want and they the fit the requirements.

 

 

This can be quite hard for most people, and they have to be happy to sign, (when i 1st applied for mine back in the early 70's my Dr was an anti and she refused to sign it, nothing i could do about it) most Doctors will sign today no problem, but they will charge for it.

 

" WARNING"**** YOU MUST PUT ANY NICK NICKS, CAUTIONS, SPEEDING TICKETS ETC DOWN ON THE APPLICATION, THEY WILL CHECK, AND IF YOU HAVEN'T PUT IT DOWN THEY CAN REFUSE YOU.

 

IF YOU PUT IT DOWN, AND THEY REFUSE, YOU CAN APPEAL. I KNOW SOMEBODY ON THEIR FAC APPLICATION WHO WAS PICKED UP ON A MINOR OFFENCE THAT HAPPENED, 35 YEARS AGO!!! WHICH THEY HADN'T PUT DOWN.

 

BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY, BE HONEST, THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR, A LAW ABIDING, SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE, DESCENT CITIZEN.

 

Hope this helps

 

 

I just got a mate to sign mine, he already holds SGC & FAC, but no letters after his name, but if you think about it, they cant knock you back, as otherwise they are saying, this person who holds both certs is not an accountable person of standing

[allrounder lad 0]

hi guys i,m looking for some accurate advice. iv recently sent my sgc away 17 days ago i got a discloser back from the police before i sent it and there were no coutions or warnings on it but i got parking tickets 3 years ago will that mater. my second point is that he phoned for me on thursday there and i was at work my mother gave him my mobile number and i waited to friday afternoon he never rang me so i decided to phone the licensing department stating what happened she made sure the number was o.k and said she,l get him 2 give me a bell back should i just be patient whats all,s thoughts.

[shannon1970 0]

is there a site to get all information,where to apply etc

[RicW 67]

is there a site to get all information,where to apply etc

 

Pinned at the top of . . . "Rimfire Centrefire and Shotguns"!

Ric :headshot::

Edited November 16, 2009 by RicW

[jackinbox99 41]

"On a Shotgun application you have 1 counter signature, who MUST be a professional, accountable person of standing ??? ie MP, Dentist, solicitor, Doctor, Nurse, somebody with qualification letters after their name"

 

Now... thats what i always thought, and in the past ive had the local doctor, directors of companies etc... sign mine. BUT... last time my SGC came for renewal, i couldnt think of anyone who met that criteria, so I just got my girlfriend, whose a salesperson to sign it. It went through no problems what so ever. So, it may just be that a salesperson (or anyone who works in an office) is classed as a "professional"?

[COMPO 54]

I got my SGC 5 years ago, i firstly got a neighbour who was a train driver, i read the signatory part saying it had to be a professional but not a relative or a serving copper, it listed jobs the signatory could do, then eneded with person of similar standing.....so i presumed that a tube driver would be OK, as being an upstanding member of the public with no criminal record etc.....

 

They bounced my application purely because because he wasn't employed in one of the listed occupations, JP,GP,Army officer etc........anyway when i rang the lady in teh firearms unit had a definitive and fuller list of occupations that were acceptable............towards the end it had firefighter (also a retired copper can sign but not a serving one!) anyway the wifes mates brother was a firefighter so he signed for me.............

Just waiting for my first renewal, since i got my SGC i now know a teacher who i sometimes go ferreting with......he signed this time

 

Been told by my FEO that it has to be someone on a public list of qualifications, like a solicitor,teacher,doctor etc....(i think so they can look them up!)

 

edited to add they also said company directors and employers can sign if its a company of some standing and you work for them....so your manager etc...might be ok

Edited November 25, 2009 by COMPO