Loose Bowls!!

[rickyspringer 15]

Alright lads and lass's,

 

After some good advice regarding loose bowls.

 

I have a pup where everything was going well with the BARF he has been on it for around 2.5 months, having the occasional loose movement but recently its been bloody awful.

 

I must admit, there hasn't been much bone in his diet in the past few days, he has been having green tripe aswell as steak.

 

Will these be the reasons for him passing a tar looking movement aswell as being very often, he doesn't seem to have any control over his movement. Or could it be to over feeding him on the stuff.

 

Its got that bad with having to clean the mess up I am considering putting him on a complete food as he may be a dog with one of these sensitive stomachs, this is the last thing I want to do, but having to clean up the mess constantly is ******* annoying me especially when he's doing it in the house at night.

 

I am going to feed him small amounts of scrambled egg and a bit of rice today, just to see if he has any improvement.

 

Any more advice would be welcomed off you experinced Raw feeders.

 

Thanks in advance. Ricky

[riohog 5,701]

get some chicken wings into him mate , bone and protean , tripes ok now and again but there isnt much goodness in it

[rickyspringer 15]

thanks pal, would you say the looseness is coming from not having much bone???

[riohog 5,701]

thanks pal, would you say the looseness is coming from not having much bone???

 

cant be sure to be honest , i dont know exactly how your feeding , give less mince / tripe and add chicken wings / necks ,just keep your eye on it for a couple of days ,

[skycat 6,173]

Too much red meat and tripe will cause loose bowels. As a guide, we are feeding a big Collie cross type 5 month old lurcher pup at the moment and for breakfast he will get half a chicken carcase: that's either the top side with the breast bone and ribs or the underneath which is smaller and more solid.

 

He usually gets a couple of breast of lamb ribby bits for lunch: no bigger than you could fit on the palm of your hand, and its the thin end of the breast of lamb where the ribs are small and thin.

 

For his main meal in the evening he will get about 500grams of either minced rabbit or beef, plus 2 or 3 chicken wings, plus another bit of chicken carcase and some minced veggies, a slosh of cod liver oil and possibly half a slice of brown bread for filler.

 

It would be very unusual for a dog to get the runs on this type of diet. We only feed tripe occasionally and then only whole tripe cut into chunks: not that foul smelling grey minced stuff which often contains a lot of water.

 

This is a really big pup: haven't weighed him recently but he's heavy built and already 23" to the shoulder! He would eat ten times the amount we give him but that wouldn't do anything except give him the runs: dogs can only use so much food at any one time.

[rickyspringer 15]

Skycat thank you very much for a good imformative reply, I come to two conclusions before I asked the qustion I just wanted to make sure I was right, that is too much tripe has been fed, aswell as the amount has been too much for the pup.

 

Thanks for the responses, situation will be sorted out and hopefully I won't be cleaning up to much shit.

 

Regards RS

[Fabapocalypse 35]

Just to add to the above - you did say the dog is passing black, tarry stools. "Tarry" is different from "runny" and could mean there is bleeding somewhere in the digestive tract, which would need to be checked by a vet.

 

If he doesn't seem to have any control over it, it may be that he has an irritated gut somewhere?

[blackpack 70]

hi ricky. Im off to work now. I will send you a phone number of a local butchers where he will give you chicken carcasses etc for free. Hope that helps

[wee gemm hunter 8]

Alright lads and lass's,

 

After some good advice regarding loose bowls.

 

I have a pup where everything was going well with the BARF he has been on it for around 2.5 months, having the occasional loose movement but recently its been bloody awful.

 

I must admit, there hasn't been much bone in his diet in the past few days, he has been having green tripe aswell as steak.

 

Will these be the reasons for him passing a tar looking movement aswell as being very often, he doesn't seem to have any control over his movement. Or could it be to over feeding him on the stuff.

 

Its got that bad with having to clean the mess up I am considering putting him on a complete food as he may be a dog with one of these sensitive stomachs, this is the last thing I want to do, but having to clean up the mess constantly is ******* annoying me especially when he's doing it in the house at night.

 

I am going to feed him small amounts of scrambled egg and a bit of rice today, just to see if he has any improvement.

 

Any more advice would be welcomed off you experinced Raw feeders.

 

Thanks in advance. Ricky

Be carefull if feeding tripe, I've seen pups ruined by feeding to much tripe,sounds more like gastroenteritis, don't give any exercise and administer kaolin suspension. Hope this helps

[Geoff.C 0]

Any of our dogs that get "the runs", are fed on chicken and boiled rice. (No bones) This will sort out the digestion, then you can slowly re-introduce your chosen diet until you find what is not agreeing with it.

[rickyspringer 15]

thanks for the advice all, monitored the dog yesterday, and there has been huge improvement, back to normal colour and the consistency is much better, I will keep monitoring the situation but hopefully everything is back to normal, he had normal control again and there has been no mess.

 

"Fabo" I also thought there may of been a foreign object in his digestion system, thats why I asked the question. Thanks for the info.

 

Kind Regards and thanks for the advice much appreciated.

 

Ricky

[Deanne 0]

My dogs get tarry stools if they have minced tripe, bones is the answer. Lamb

bone with little meat on, ribs for preference. Chickens ok but faddy eaters dont

always go for the texture. With spines,chop up and then dry em out so they go dark

in colour and don't feel slimy to pick up. Not much is needed. They are full of

goodness. Remember a dogs natural state is to be slightly constipated.

Helps with the anal glands! Remember digestive transit for a complete diet is 16

hours approx, for bones, 8 hours approx. A working dog will keep weight on better

if it is fed on bones and meat with some veg.

[Neal 1,857]

I believe that too much vitamin C can make them loose too.(Is that right Skycat?: you know more about this than me). Apparently the best way to work out the right amount is to gradually increase it until they get loose then reduce again until the consistency is right. On the same subject, my vet warned me against using powdered vitamin C because of the chemicals used to make it and advised me to stick to natural.