snizle06 202 Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 i have a russel that can be used for diggin foxes and then i have 4 proper diggin dogs. the russel can be left of the lead but not the other 4. i dont care what anybody says about training etc if these dogs were let bush they would be gone cause if they got on the scent and there fox didnt go to ground or went to an undiggable spot youd never get them back. you can say all you like about calling them back but these are proper digging dogs and the determination to get what there after is unreal. anybody that runs their terrier of the lead dosent have a 100% earthdog because if they did it would be on the lead. Quote Link to post
nelson 0 Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Horses for coarses. All them old terriermen will say the same, there is no one size fits all when it comes to animals, some " specialise " in different disciplines of terrier work but there are very few terriers that can do all the jobs asked of it. Size, strength, nose, heart all come into the final mix. Knowing what you could readily expect from your terrier is more important. Just my opinion folks. Quote Link to post
Guest ragumup Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 im 16 years old and have never dug to a fox .i have bolted one before and thought it was ace but never dug to one.i had loved animals all my life and had been fascinated with traps and hunting from an early age.my dad has no interest in field sports so i would keep talk of my interests to a minimum. i began to notice a "strange man" walking past my house everyday towards a jennel that leads to the fields.he had four dogs (beagle russells i later found out) and was equipped complete with ferret box deer stalker hat etc. i came to the fact that he was something to do with working his dogs ( i was only 14 at the time).he intrigued me every time i saw him and would sit pondering in the window every time he walked past. one day i was walking past where he lives ( just round the corner) and saw a lad about my age on the front garden. the dogs wer tied up on the front and my curiosity kicked in again.i asked the boy what he did with them and he said they where his dads and they where "hunting dogs" i soon become friends with that lad and now id say we are best mates. i soon bought my own dog (a big rangy pedigree unknown russell cross dog) and thats where i started. we have no permission but walk the public paths and streams searching for rats and rabbits.if we ever see a fox never mind if we ever get the chance to dig to one wer histerical.im just saying lots of people have a choice whether they want a 100% fox dog or not an we dont. i dont see anything good in boasting about "my dog is 100% fox" if fox are easy to get to and you have lots of good fox dwelling permission.if we ever decided our dogs wer "just fox dogs" then maybe wed get 1 fox every 5 year or something lol. its not what you say your dogs are but what your have available to you. the same goes for things like rats.the most rats me and my mate have ever caught in a day is 6 and thats pathetic.but we walk miles everyday searching for them and we love it. a kid at school (whos dad takes his dogs to to farms wer rats are "crawling over your feet") belittles us .but hes got that maybe. im just saying its what you have in front of you that gets you your good reputation in this sport. ( its not like we dont look for permission). sambo Thats a good honest post for a young lad and reminds me of when i was that age so i see your point,now days being a gamekeeper i always keep my terriers on couples and use them only for digging and as hafod already said with pheasants around, i dont wont them off the leads anyway Quote Link to post
Guest Eamon.Mc Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 The bitch I lost 3 weeks ago I could walk off the lead, great with stock and never strayed more than 3 feet from me, though I had to couple her when getting close to an earth, any other dog I had or have stays coupled until given their chance to work. JMO. Quote Link to post
porkypowell 2 Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 This was all pre ban and many years ago Terriers =ground work/digging rat mink fox Spaniels= bushing/ferreting rat rabbit mink fox lurchers= running work rat rabbit fox beagle= just topiss me off I never knew, it would be head down and bloddy gone The key is to know how to get the best from your dog and exploit it. You are resposible for the dogs saftey just use your head. Be warned the most effective terrier I ever lost was during a family walk along a river found a big earth with out collar never seen again I stayed for three days If I had a collar on here well you all know that felling Simon Quote Link to post
nelson 0 Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 im 16 years old and have never dug to a fox .i have bolted one before and thought it was ace but never dug to one.i had loved animals all my life and had been fascinated with traps and hunting from an early age.my dad has no interest in field sports so i would keep talk of my interests to a minimum. i began to notice a "strange man" walking past my house everyday towards a jennel that leads to the fields.he had four dogs (beagle russells i later found out) and was equipped complete with ferret box deer stalker hat etc. i came to the fact that he was something to do with working his dogs ( i was only 14 at the time).he intrigued me every time i saw him and would sit pondering in the window every time he walked past. one day i was walking past where he lives ( just round the corner) and saw a lad about my age on the front garden. the dogs wer tied up on the front and my curiosity kicked in again.i asked the boy what he did with them and he said they where his dads and they where "hunting dogs" i soon become friends with that lad and now id say we are best mates. i soon bought my own dog (a big rangy pedigree unknown russell cross dog) and thats where i started. we have no permission but walk the public paths and streams searching for rats and rabbits.if we ever see a fox never mind if we ever get the chance to dig to one wer histerical.im just saying lots of people have a choice whether they want a 100% fox dog or not an we dont. i dont see anything good in boasting about "my dog is 100% fox" if fox are easy to get to and you have lots of good fox dwelling permission.if we ever decided our dogs wer "just fox dogs" then maybe wed get 1 fox every 5 year or something lol. its not what you say your dogs are but what your have available to you. the same goes for things like rats.the most rats me and my mate have ever caught in a day is 6 and thats pathetic.but we walk miles everyday searching for them and we love it. a kid at school (whos dad takes his dogs to to farms wer rats are "crawling over your feet") belittles us .but hes got that maybe. im just saying its what you have in front of you that gets you your good reputation in this sport. ( its not like we dont look for permission). sambo Thats a good honest post for a young lad and reminds me of when i was that age so i see your point,now days being a gamekeeper i always keep my terriers on couples and use them only for digging and as hafod already said with pheasants around, i dont wont them off the leads anyway Ex-ferkin-cactly, these kids are the future, my own lad has me yawning some days when he goes on about what dog he is going to have when he thankfully ferks off and leaves home. It says it all to me when a kid can put the hole debate in one entry. It don't matter what i or any one else thinks, its all about the individual and the individual is the only one who counts. :thumbs-up: Quote Link to post
Guest oneredtrim Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) . Edited January 16, 2008 by oneredtrim Quote Link to post
sambo123 644 Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 cheers lads.thanks a lot Quote Link to post
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